/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>392033
> AÖ
Who the fuck is AO?

>>392251
Take yoiur meds, schizo

>>392952
Abdullah Öcalan

>>393867
>Abdullah Ocalan
>Natural popularity
Lmfao. Only kurds give a shit about him.

>>388367
You’re genuinely the worst poster on this board, you care more about “owning the soyboy Redditor PMCs” than actually listening to the facts.

>>363798
>rich and important fucks wont die from covid, they will do like for trump, straight up manufacture anti bodies and inject them.
>Its crazy expensive, hence why not an option the masses. But the prime minister of luxembourg ? I'd have loved to see such a cunt die, but that doesnt seem likely
Haha aa! Also: CIA ate my hamster. And it's totally impossible to create some kind of cure that could be sold to the masses AND make a profit. Because economy of scale is only applicable to contemporary China or what?

>>363449
Thank you for posting news regarding the country which is extremely relevant for socialists today, Luxembourg

say what you want about Bettel but his way of dealing with the anglos is absolutely based

>>393266
wikipedia says he's still alive

>>363452
It was a psyop designed to cow the British masses into being afraid of the whole thing. Think critically.

>tfw your home county (not even state) has 5 times the population of Luxembourg
meme country, when is Bolsonaro going to bite it

>>393388
Learn to spot a samefag.

Jason Hickel’s book on inequality

>>393629
Seconding this. Good to educate normies as well.

>>393358
Aren't like 99% of his books fiction though?
Who cares about his politics when he's literally considered one of if not the most important writers of his country of the last century?

fight me on this

>>393189
I think your missing OPs point dude

>>393122
>No anon even in socialist societies this still occurs one only has to look at how workers are treated in North Korea and china to realize they're thought of as pawns to the government rather than as individuals
Oh, it's you again. You were already refuted on this, and your information on the DPRK was liberal tier. Fuck off already.

Take the Maupinpill, aesthetics should not be totally forgotten. The Black Panthers had a great advantage in their uniforms, which demonstrated their determination and dedication to the revolution. Of course, this has to go with a good political program, also.

Who fucking knows and who fucking cares, I'm a lonely asshole anyways

>>392196
Eugenics-kun where art thou?

>>392498
LMAO, this → >>392508
Another prime example would be the Crusades. Christians are the biggest barbarians of all theist cucks.

>>392509
LMAO kys, loser. Video related

>>393890
Huh, weird. Occasionally, I get this bug, where the site reloads, when I post something with a video and then fails to uplead the video.

>>389232
Not all those groups are terrorists.

The Taliban for example literally just defend their country.

>>393848
>muslim Austria
give about 20 years kek

>>393891
seethe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKUdEJlVZAY

>>384138
What? My point is that this exact problem would still exist in planned economy.
You have to assign workers to where they are needed to work.

>>392226
What if customers buy shares before they get their product, like they pre-order their product and they get a share. That's an easy way to predict future demand and implement cybersoc planning.

>>392226
What happens when the coop runs out of shares to sell? Another option is to sell shares through memberships, the CO-OP grocery store in Norway works like that.

>>392224
>What doesn't happen in the socialist regimes that we had until now, in soviet union, for example, it was the gosplan who decide who, when and how, thats cannot be called a co-op.
good thing no one in /cybersoc/ suggests Gosplan-style planning then

>Lol, are sure thats your a marxist? you think like a ancap.
go read some econophysics. or if you're lazy, watch vid related

>Also, again the worker have no power in decide anything relate to the production or the work.
you are incorrect. read Beer

>>392630
of course people might have to move to where the jobs are. this is the case also today. you should keep in mind that with the profit motive out of the picture the length of the working week shrinks drastically, to where we can allow considerable "slack" in the system. we can consciously maintain a socialist reserve army of labour.

>>383086
Worker's coops isn't necessarily the same thing as market "socialism". If a coop exists within a market of capital and a market of labour then it is limited and determined by those markets and forced to basically self-exploit. By themselves they are definitely not a necessary step to socialism.

On the other hand if there is no such markets, meaning it is combined with central planning that invests not based on profits and employment is absolutely guaranteed, so we are already in a form of socialism, then a coop can actually fully decide what to do and is a step towards communism.

>So, i'm hearing that some anons claiming that before RoP hitting zero, they will do a war and save capital
War serves as a very literal method of 'capital DESTRUCTION' by either destroying the MOP (see: levelling of most of central and western-europes industrial centres / forced deindustrialisation of east-germany) of the people who man them (Self explanatory) OR the collapse of the losing powers economy in response to the armistice terms (Collapse of the German and Italian economies in the aftermath of WW1)
>But how much is that true? Will masses really accept war at this age?
Why wouldn't they lmao? The majority of my country wants us to die to protect Taiwan and thinks we should have the americans nuke the chinkos so they dont become to stronk. Many people i talk to are under the outright delusion of our armed forces of less then 100'000 people could beat the PLA.
>Aren't wars cost too much today ?
Until the Petrodollar and Breton-Woods system is abolished Murica can continue printing fiat self-backed by its own economic chokehold on earth
>Aren't declining birthrates threats the potential soldier numbers?
Wars dont require as many soldiers as they used to.

>>393878
>>393870
>>393909
>Not answering the question
Bruh

>>393785
The likelihood of another world war is low, but, if it does happen, it will likely be pretty catastrophic. Go live in New Zealand or some other remote location if you want to avoid the worst of it.

>>393785
>economic interdependence prevents war
not sure about that, it does create a lot of antagonisms, because everybody is trying to control their external dependencies.
>Will masses really accept war at this age?
You mean like military conscription, no that would cause revolution the day it's announced. But the US for example has been able to use economic pressure to make poor people sign up for war. The people that fight for a paycheck probably aren't the most enthusiastic fighters, so they won't fight big wars.
>Aren't declining birthrates threats the potential soldier numbers?
Yes but the big imperial bourgeoisie runs transnational operations and might not care about depleting the populations of several countries
>Aren't nuclear-nukes makes everyone afraid?
Yes for governments, individual capitalists however might be more afraid about the stuff like precision drone strikes. Wars might create enough chaos where they could be targeted by commercial rivals.
>any global-war crush the world to irreversible point?
A global war would disrupt the capitalist repression systems long enough for the formation of new soviet block type socialisms. But they wouldn't be like Stalin that only destroyed fascistic capitalism while letting bourgeois democratic capitalism live because WW3 would be viewed as proof that capitalism is irredeemable.

Overall the chances of a big war are lower than in past capitalist crisis, because the risks for the capitalist class are much greater now and the potential gains are smaller.

>>393905
He’s being hyperbolic, but yea, Singapore is fucked by sea level rise

>>393849
They have Marinaleda, a communist village. They have Mondragon coop cities etc.

>>391865
by having tons of shit to conSOOM

>>393281
Nice strawman, we don't hate ourselves, we hate the European bourgeois states, which collaborate with Washington.

>>391946
There's also a big difference between people caring on the internet or with words and actually being willing to do something for other human beings. I wouldn't be surprised that all the world over that many people who talk about caring about the plight of other people wouldn't actually help them if it meant inconveniencing themselves. There are people who are true to their word, or many who don't think much of these things but will help others even if they have to suffer themselves though.

>>393834
I still can't get over how the Moroccans are more Germanic than Spanish people due to the Vandal invasions.

To be fair lumpenproletariat can be revolutionary subjects. The BPP and also to and extent Hugo Chavez drew on their masses to do revolutionary work, and arguably through the history of communism most of the work of revolution was actually accomplished through not so proletarian subjects, like peasants or lumpenproletarians. Of course, their relations to production meant they were not always the most optimal, but then again the conditions have now become different, so perhaps it'll happen again that the proletariat proper is not the primary revolutionary base.

Im a neet too, but im also a schizo and get free retard money from the gubment.

lumpenproles like us are natural born anarchists. we live outside the capitalist system

Workers of the world… Relax!

>>393590
Underrated post.
>>393632
>Bob Black
Absolutely disgusting.

>>392284
Lumpen when the seasons over.

america has been essentially a totalitarian police state since 9/11 but covid helped seal the deal. if you're still looking around at the world and wondering when fascism will happen as if it isn't already here, globally, you may be retarded
of course, the old-school left is too destroyed in most places for the ruling class to bother pretending to be revolutionary socialists these days. they just pretend to be woke instead, in this case saving (minority) lives from the big bad virus. but the real purpose of lockdowns and propaganda was atomising the population and decreasing their capacity to resist the "great reset"

what if ironically the attempts of the center shitlibs to stave off radicalism actually end up the start of the full degeneration of the burgerland, sort of similar to how succdems tried to unleash the korps on luxemburg and co., and then later those thugs came to power and then proceeded to attack the general Left regardless of level of radicalism

>>392989
Incorrect, some got prominence. The Allies were just better at snatching them up

>>382911
>legalise … sectioning into a psyche ward

This is nothing new and is arguably the whole reason psychology came into existence in the first place; psychology has a huge amount of its roots in the eugenics movement, arguing for instance that slave runaways were mentally defective. The same is true today, a lot of pathologies, especially anxiety, depression and generalized neuroticism, are unarguably caused by economic circumstance and these same people will approximate a vulgar critique of capitalism when outlining their illness to a shrink.

What is new, I think, is the crackup of centralized ideological state apparatus' because of the internet and the state desperately trying to get a grip on hegemonic ideological discourse hence their broadside at digital platforms especially ones with little to no moderation.

In terms of a lurch toward fascism, I don't see it. The state is more or less as authoritarian as it always has been, they've just adapted their methods alongside the technological and societal changes. The glowies aren't assassinating commies and radical trade unionists because they don't exist in western countries not because they got better after COINTELPRO came to be public knowledge. Furthermore, the most 1984esque authoritarian shit they've pulled for a long time was the mass NSA dragnet surveillance systems the Snowden leaked and all that was put in place long before any concern about an uptick in Antifa and neo-boomer Nazis.

Monopoly capitalism isn't hankering for an open terroristic dictatorship of the bourgeoisies, even Trump's facile nationalism was to strong for them or rather their profitability and power. The petty bourgeoise seemingly are lurching in a fascistic direction comparatively but that's because all small business owners are insane people that are squeezed between monopoly capital (i.e jewish capital) on one hand and any form of organized labour (i.e commies) on the other. The petty bourgeoise can have only pseudo-revolutionary potential because their mode of existence is based on Capitalism and will always be at threat from monopolists and organized labour hence them abstracting those elements for Capitalism proper as Jewish perversion and Communist subversion respectively

nothing authoritarian about enforcing law / civil code

another shit is that americans are largerly uncivilized / barbarian so they will see it in some other light (muh oppression)