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 No.412639[Reply]

Why have so many successful historical communist and socialist movements outside the first world been pro-nationalist and patriotic?
If Mao, Sankara, Castro etc were around currently, would people categorise them as NazBol for their emphasis on national liberation

>pic only semi-related
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 No.413076

>>412791
Because only non-Western socialist movements were organic, while socialist movements in the West were run and controlled by bouregoisie and thus rejected patriotism and nationalism which bourgeois feel threatened by, especially since WW2.
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 No.413107

A lot of those movements were focused on freeing their countries from imperialism and colonialism. Socialism as an ideology was a different matter, but anti-colonialism and anti-imperialism are linked to socialism, because colonialism and imperialism are driven by capitalism.

The Communist Party of China for example chose Marxism-Leninism as their ideology because these young Chinese intellectuals in the 1910s and 1920s were trying all kinds of things and nothing seemed to work. Anarchism, liberalism, syndicalism, petty nationalism. All of these things were being discussed and applied, but didn't make much progress. An attempt at bourgeois nationalism by the KMT variety plunged the country into warlordism. Traditional ideologies and structures had also been discredited or collapsed being of the onrush of what we now call "modernity." And they were blamed in part for making their countries vulnerable to being taken over by imperialists and colonialists. So you can say that Marxism-Leninism is a "western" ideology but it was the only one that was imported that also contained the anti-imperialism from the beginning.

It was baked into the cake.

Or to put it another way, "they did it this way because it just worked that way." That's not a satisfying answer to some people though.

So you get a "left" nationalism that it links up and is part of a similar struggle, at least at the time, with other anti-imperialist and anti-colonial resistance movements. The reason why nationalism in the imperialist countries takes on a right-wing form is that nationalism is an effective way by which the monopoly capitalists who rule those countries can trick people into supporting aggressive wars which the capitalists use to rob people around the world.
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 No.413113

>>413076
>Italian communists were run by the bourgeoisie
>German communists were run by the bourgeoisie
>Spanish CNT/FAI also run by the bourgeoisie

Wow big think time. Is that why the bourgeoisie created fascism to exterminate them? Fuck off and kill yourself
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 No.413137

>>413076
Completely non-historical comprehension of nationalism. Do you know that the very concept of nation is an historical and fonctional creation of the bourgeoisie ? And if it has served the proletarian movement it is in the narrow context of imperialism and colonialism ? If nationalism has been can be a situational and limited tool, its overcoming is necessary for a global proletarian victory.
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 No.413150

>>412639
because we are fighting for the liberation of our respective countries you fucking idiot.
Imagine if Castro would've shilled for japanese emancipation instead of Cuban.

what a retarded scenario.
If you are racist, a national chauvinist, or some other retardation, you have brain worms.


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 No.411124[Reply]

>“Good evening, today, our fellow athletes, our gold medals, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and devastating acts by the Russian Olympic Committee and China"
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 No.412986

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>>412152
>there are schools in China and America that probably win more medals then the entirety of India
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 No.412987

>>412986
Yep. India has delta in their blood, no wonder they perform so poorly rn.
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 No.412994

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Is san marino the best performing nation this olympics?
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 No.413001

>>412994
And Bermuda. They had a runner win a gold medal. Population of 63k
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 No.413136

>>412423
3-2-1 weighting is arbitrary. From second place to third place you are halving the value, but you are not halving the value from first place to second place. In particular, it fails the criterion mono-raise random (a change that X gets a better rank in some competitions than before should not be overshadowed by Y improving to something that is still worse than where X is at now).

Gentlemen, surely the proper weighting is 4-2-1.


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 No.387648[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What is your justification for not owning a firearm or a weapon for self defence like a knife, spiked bat, molotov cocktail, sledgehammer etc?
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 No.413082

>>412836
Would be a shame if someone were to post these schematics.
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 No.413084

>>412837
>ban guns
>this makes it impossible for fascists to acquire guns, as they always respect the law
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 No.413093

>>413052
>wants to keep guns
>uses republican party talking points to argue keeping firearms and guns

mask off lol go back to /pol/
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 No.413106

>>413059
>its okay gang the fascists don't own all the guns the police do as that's an obvious improvement
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 No.413116

>>413106
it is, quit your stupid fascist and red-brownist apologia


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 No.411325[Reply]

Is bodybuilding a peak example of the endavours,grit and discipline of the New Man(socialist new man),or rather a borguise pastime and meaningless show-off contest?
did the soviet union have BB contests like it did have olympic lifters?
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 No.411865

>>411740
the left needs more musclestuds
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 No.411887

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 No.411897

>>411325
Yes to both questions.
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 No.413102

>LIGHTWEIGHT
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 No.413308

>>411325
lolno, bodybuilding is peak capitalist spectacle aesthetic, fuck that faggot shit


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 No.216284[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

This is the place where you can find all /leftypol/ memes n' shit
https://lefty.booru.org/
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>>409467
AND SHE DIDNT GIVE IT TO ME.
JUST A PEPSI
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 No.411850

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edsa
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 No.413013

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so Ive made this a while ago, so here its again.
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 No.412378[Reply]

Progressivism is a threat to society, whether for leftists, or even for centrists. They blur the line between "leftism" and "neoliberalsm" by juxtaposing both under the umbrella term of "leftism". They brand everyone who disagree with them as a "Nazi" or "right-wing" or a "white supremacist", even if that person is indeed a centrist who stands by his opinions, or even a left-winger.

What do you guys think about this ideology?

Opinions, discussions welcome.
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 No.413065

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>>413063
>Stalinist
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 No.413071

>>413057
>plus youre still a zionist lmao
Their main characteristics is also fuck israel. What's the problem with that?
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 No.413072

>>413071
Also they supported muh palestinian democracy, whcih translates to
>palestinian bourgeois democracy.
I want palestine to be a hybrid regime, not just a western lackey.
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 No.413077

>>413058
>Soviet russia literally criminalized homosexuality
When the soviets took over they wrote literally nothing about homosexuality in the law making it de facto legal because they weren't idpol revisionists pussies yet
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 No.413078

>>413058
a very narrow view.
right after the revolution, homosexuality was decriminalized. it was only illegal under stalin, one of his many mistakes. after his death, when it became legal again, it was still a massively progressive policy.
also, how do you think gay people were treated in tsarist russia?
>>413063
you just posted cringe bro


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 No.268992[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>412838
i'm not a fan of these new overdesigned uniforms for the commanders, and at the same perplexed how only the highest echelons received them and everyone else still has the old ones
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 No.412914

>>411305
Based. FAR MUCH QUALITY THAN DO KYUNGSOO'S ROSE
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 No.374677[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Why the hell are birthrates on the decline fucking everywhere? Even in africa the major causation of high birthrates is low access to contraceptives and abortion and even then their birthrates are on the general decline every year… it's not even like humanity hasn't had worse periods to have kids than now but seemingly enough no ones fucking and I'm worried about becoming a single father with 1 adopted son because of this retarded shit…
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 No.412952

Here in India fertility rates are very low(south India) where women have more freedom and education, in sharp contrast to states(BIMARU) with high fertility rates where women are basically treated as baby ovens relegated to kitchen and bedroom.
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 No.412968

Because most proles dont wanna have kids. That's the simplest answer you'd think it would be economics or poor social securities or the woes of modern life but rather the problem is simply that most proles these days just don't want em. Even in developed societies like Sweden where social securities are available the population still isnt fucking
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 No.412980

>>412968
People are fucking a lot. They just don't care about having kids.
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 No.412988

>>412968
But we also have to ask why people don't want kids. I would say because of a pervasive sense of hopelessness and lack of direction in the world. Why have kids when the future is only going to worse for them?
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 No.412999

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>>412988
It's just hyper media consoomerism of 21st century keeping people so preoccupied in their free time they don't see any value in getting a romantic partner, let alone making babies.


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 No.411559[Reply]

Do mentally deficient people on the level of animals produce value? Let's say you employ an absolute retard rather than a bull to pull your trolley. Why is the bull constant capital and the retard variable capital? Or do retards count as constant capital?
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 No.412193

>>412139
Bulls aren't socially considered human in any society that I know of.
…maybe India but I'm iffy on that one.
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 No.412206

ah yes, another vegan thread
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 No.412321

>>411559
>Do mentally deficient people on the level of animals produce value?
Yes, they just drag down the average labor productivity a little. But not to worry the exact same biological processes also generate really exceptional people that more than make up for it.
You definitely can't reintroduce slavery, because if you try we will think you are mentally defective.
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 No.412979

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>>412193
>…maybe India but I'm iffy on that one.

You should be iffy on that one.
The reverend status bestowed upon cows (and to a lesser extent, bulls) is that to preserve the cattle for various other applications like any other civilization did for its needs minus the meat consumption. Early Vedic texts actually had mentions of consumption of Cow and its use in rituals.
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 No.412981

>>412979
Forgot to mention - despite worship and rituals, cattle themselves don't get any exceptional treatment in India when it comes to its uses and a few states allow consumption of beef.


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 No.404497[Reply]

Anyone know what's going on here? Are there any /ourguys/ in there or? Who are the different sides aligned with geopolitically? Is the TPLF based or cringe? Are they Maoist?

Also what do we think of the old Soviet aligned Dergue government?
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 No.404967

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>>404929
funny seeing maoists and the CIA support a country with this emblem
>>404843
only ideal solution
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 No.404979

>>404743
>people are worried that this may bring about the disintegration of the country.
>people are mobilising in every corner of the country to fight the tplf (they are despised by literally the whole country)
>became an ethnic oligarch class
>pop. of 7 mil. in a country of 117 mil.
I find it distasteful to have my class struggle be tainted by ethnic conflict, but if this goes badly for them, you get what you fucking deserve.
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 No.405107

>>404958
I have very mixed feeling about eritrea and i hope this doesnt come across as bullshit nationalism. but i really dont think they should have ever seceded, considering how similar our cultures are, how are histories are intertwined and how we've basically always been a part of the same polity save for a 40 year italian occupation of eritrea and 10 years of british "administration". i dont think they would have gotten independence had the derg not been full of violent retards, and the tplf literally giving away our entire country's coastline when they came to power is a baffling move.

eritrea is ruled by a proper autocrat and its in a pretty sorry state. i went in 2019 after they reopened the borders, and my uncle who went with me said it literally hadnt changed since he last saw it in the 80s (while ethiopian cities have developed rapidly). theres a reason why such a large part of their population leaves the country (many ethiopians leave too but proportionally way more eritreans..many come to ethiopia) they claim theyre independent of any 'imperialist' international institutions, but really its nothing to brag about considering the state of their country.

having said all that, their leadership was feuding with the tplf since both of them were fighting the derg. so they viewed this conflict as a prime time to get rid of the tplf. i do regret their involvement in the conflict, and now i notice i havent mentioned it - it was decisive in initially collapsing the tplf, but they are implicated in serious abuses. the ethiopian army is as well, but the eritreans seemed to have been doing more.

this i'm sure helped rally people to the tplf, since 3 decades of propaganda has made tigrayans hate eritreans (even though over half of eritrea is literally tigre speakers, functionally the same people). i mean 3 decades of tplf propaganda also turned tigres against ethiopia, when they were always some of the most patriotic ethiopians and the origin or our civilisation. its incredible to see tigrayans burning the ethiopian flag, whose first appearance is in a 10th century tapestry in that same region, in favor of a weird party's aberration.

i think the long-term presence of the eritreans was ultimately detrimental to the campaign. they should have been withdrawn after the initial campaign which routed the tplf in november - aftPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.412962

bump
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 No.412978

>>404743
Great post thank you comrade


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