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 No.225026[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

🗽/USAPol/ - United States Politics 🦅
LYNCHIAN EDITION
Thread for petit discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth.


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 No.413928

What does the recess imply? They're not going to vote on anything?
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 No.413933

>>413913
The pontus maximus saw a lightning bolt, clearly this is a bad omen.
The Congress shall meet on the next available non-holiday day, which shall be set for next month.
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>>413542
How do you pull a Bolshevik without getting Fred Hampton'd?
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 No.414011

>>413928
congress is on vacation until middle of September
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 No.414023

>>413916
Read The Discourses on Livy


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 No.412806[Reply]

Why is the far right so much more appealing than the far left to young men in the west despite being more vapid and substanceless?

/pol/tard crossposters, don't comment. I'm looking for a real analytic materialist answer not the 9999th iteration of "pol thinks we are radlibs and spams troon memes".
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 No.413528

>>413515
the fuck do you mean?
most people's needs are met by the left, so of course they will gravitate towards such policies instead of rightoid odious schizo shit
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 No.413555

>>413416
>you're not a failure because you're a resentful Incel loser
Oh so you're saying they were born that way.
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>>412824
>Russia? Azov
<doesn't know what Ukraine is
<doesn't know the right-sector hasn't been popular in years
absolute burgerpost. You will never have a foreskin
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 No.414006

>>413088
hello tourist, please lurk more
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 No.414010

The far right presents life and history like a video game.


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 No.413580[Reply]

Was Lenin a German agent? Why was he so eager to casually sign a peace treaty that was horrible for the Russian people?
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 No.413853

>>413580
Literally the entire reason for overthrowing Kerensky was ending the war
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 No.413904

My read is that he was working for the Germans, but hoped that their defeat in the war would trigger a revolution and that Germany would turn communist. Lenin for sure talked up German culture and philosophy, over Russian culture and Russian nationalism. He was an internationalist who saw the future of communism as a global movement and a world federation, if it could happen. The Germans wanted the war on the Eastern front to end with concessions, and hoped they could force the British and French to make those concessions permanent. That's what the Germans wanted, and Lenin was the only one with any sort of support in Russia who would have made peace.
The German high command knew they could suppress the communist movement in Germany, whereas Lenin was banking on the communist movement succeeding in Germany if he wanted communism to win in the long term. In the 20s, the capitalist powers knew they needed something big to secure their domination, and that's when fascism went on the offensive and the oligarchs of capitalism took on the appearance that they take today. There has been throughout the communist movement's history an inability to admit just how much the deck was stacked against communist victory from the outset, though how clear that was is only available to us through hindsight. There was this pernicious myth that the capitalists could be beaten and cajoled like animals, but the capitalists were perfectly aware of what they were doing and why they did it. It's infected leftist thinking for the past 150 years, and the philosophies of the left render them incapable of grasping where the failure rests. Those on the left who could overcome this failing would, in the following decades, diminish. Communism was failed first and foremost by its intellectuals, and by the intellectual class as a whole. The people were willing to accept communism, even if they didn't really like it or get it, but the communist movement came to be conflated with its intelligentsia rather than its people. The intelligentsia claimed that they could not fail, but they could only be failed, and pawned this responsibility off to the common people. The people in the communist countries were aware of this trap, including many of the intellectuals who saw this wasn't going well, but the bulk of the intelligentsia were invested in their status and philosophy more than actually winning, and by the 1970s the backsliding was ready to take place. The intellectuals didn't want to fighPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>413904
Everytime I read a post that starts well and ends with schizo eugenics ramblings I realize its Eugene having another one.
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>>413931
Embrace the Eugenepill. You know I'm right.
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 No.414008

Fannie Kaplan did nothing wrong.


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 No.370215[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

/Internet Trash General/
Use for discussion on twitter, e-celebs, internet happenings, and other related internet trash
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>>413610
>Dude, fuck this pedo anime bullshit. Bara manga or bust!
based
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>>413811
>I mean, nobody attacks those "Hegelian Marxist" university professors in the West for dilluting Marxism, because most agree that Hegel was an actual serious thinker while Chinese philosophy must be some ying and yang fortune cookie bullshit. It's orientalist.
Another irony here is that yin/yang stuff has a lot in common with dialectics. I've seen some fairly convincing arguments that Marxism is more compatible with some traditional Chinese philosophies (in essence) than a lot of Western thought (Abrahamic religions). Which might be one reason why the Chinese went so hard for Marxism.

Also dialectical unity is similar to Tao as a natural law creating materials which are all related to each other (i.e. base / superstructure). Also adopting Marxism during a chaotic and dark age as a solution to bring peace and stability to society which repeats the adoption of Confucianism after the Zhou Dynasty collapsed thousands of years ago. Confucianism also has a "particular to universal" form of reasoning. And Chinese philosophy is mostly atheistic, it doesn't hold that Gods exist.
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 No.413967

>>411198
they're all the same anon
nuke them all
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>>413972
based and i agree


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Australia: 7,000 Toll transport workers threaten industrial action
Toll’s proposed EA would see all new drivers employed on part-time rates just above the award minimum—more than 10 percent below the current agreement—with reduced overtime entitlements and employer superannuation contributions of no more than 10 percent.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/31/toll-j31.html

Britain accused of covering up 1972 killing of unarmed Protestant civilian in Belfast
BRITAIN’S armed forces have been accused of another cover-up after it emerged that soldiers shot dead a man in Belfast in 1972 whose death was then blamed on the IRA. Factory foreman Thomas Mills was killed on July 18 that year in the Ballygomartin Road area where he worked.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/britain-accused-cover-over-1972-killing-unarmed-protestant-civilian-belfast

Hungary: Thousands of Health Care Workers Protest in Budapest for Higher Wages
The crowd, which included supporters from several of Hungary's largest trade unions, said the COVID-19 pandemic had only worsened the already precarious situation of health care workers while their demands for pay hikes and reduced working hours had gone unheeded by the government.
https://www.newsclick.in/hungary-thousands-health-care-workers-protest-budapest-higher-wages

Thousands march across France as nationwide opposition to domestic Covid ID shows no signs of fizzling out (VIDEOS)
Starting from August 9, French citizens will need a government-issued digital health pass in order to go inside a cafe or use certain forms of public transport. Individuals will need the ID to show that they are fully vaccinated, have tested negative for Covid-19, or have recovered from the virus. The controversial legislation also makes vaccination compulsory for healthcare workers.
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TYBNA
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Tenants prepare for unknown as eviction moratorium ends
“August is going to be a rough month because a lot of people will be displaced from their homes,” said Jeffrey Hearne, director of litigation Legal Services of Greater Miami, Inc. “It will be at numbers we haven’t seen before. There are a lot of people who are protected by the … moratorium.”
https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-d6bfbe4aff82bbcf7586a3936ea98731

Rep. Cori Bush and others sleep outside U.S. Capitol to protest end of federal eviction ban
Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.) slept outside the U.S. Capitol on Friday night to urge her Democratic colleagues to return to Washington and vote to expand the eviction moratorium, which expires Saturday at midnight. "Many of my Democratic colleagues chose to go on vacation early today rather than staying to vote to keep people in their homes," Bush tweeted Friday. "I'll be sleeping outside the Capitol tonight. We've still got work to do."
https://www.axios.com/cori-bush-sleeps-outside-capitol-extend-eviction-moratorium-61ad00af-34ef-4f07-a470-4d6c8bea87bd.html

Senators want Biden to deny Iran entry visas to attend UN General Assembly
Six Republicans senators sent a letter to President Joe Biden this week, calling him to deny entry visas to Iranian President-elect Ebrahim Raisi and other senior Iranian officials to attend the UN General Assembly in September. The six are: Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), Rick Scott (R-Fla.), Ted Cruz (R-TX), and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).
https://www.jpost.com/international/senators-want-biden-to-deny-iran-entry-visas-to-attend-un-general-assembly-675478
https://archive.is/ddFkM

You’re doing it WRONG! White House Covid-19 spokesman yells at media for quoting CDC documPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.413252

Microchip Mania
While Congress is considering legislation to make historic investments in domestic semiconductor research and manufacturing, New York state and local economic development agencies are continuing a decades-long effort to make the capital region the microchip manufacturing center of the United States. Encouraged by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., state and local authorities are continuing to pour millions of dollars into an industry that has long been subsidized by taxpayer dollars even as it has offshored jobs. Last Monday, Schumer announced that GlobalFoundries, a semiconductor manufacturing firm owned by Mubadala Investment Company, the United Arab Emirates sovereign wealth fund, is building a new chip fabrication plant near its corporate headquarters in Malta, New York, and expanding an existing plant. The expansion will include $1 billion in investments from the company as well as federal and state subsidies, according to a press release from GlobalFoundries, and will create more than a thousand jobs. Details of those subsidies have not yet been released.
https://www.dailyposter.com/microchip-mania/

Hinterlands: Rural Detroits
Trucks rumble through here too, from the factories at one end of Old Trinity near Woodall. Most factories off Woodall are small, looking as if they might employ a few dozen to a hundred workers. Except for the Wayne’s Farm Poultry plant. Wayne’s Farm is large and a reason why, despite Alabama’s repressive anti-immigrant laws, so many Latinos have settled in Decatur. But the rest look like they’ve been there for ages. Again, no new development. Yet a few dozen miles away, in Huntsville, lay shiny, one-story sprawling suburban industrial parks engineering advanced weapons systems with the latest technology. A gleaming new Mazda plant, rising like an industrial Phoenix out of former cornfields, is sprouting up midway between Huntsville and Decatur. Such on the local level is capitalism’s combined and uneven development. Some areas are raised and stroked while others knocked down and gutted. Alabama, of course, is fully rooted in the globalized economy. In recent decades, the state became a Southern site for the auto industry, with Japanese transplants scattered along the north-south central axis. Aerospace has gotten a toe-hold in the MPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.413948

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Thanks news anon


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 No.213072[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

💰️DOW/Market Watch Thread💰️
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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 No.413655

So, how can one profit from all this, then, if possible to do so?
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 No.413663

>>411636
> Marx was wrong to assume how quick its downfall would occur
Capitalism was on its death throes in the 1920s-1930s, it was only through massive state intervention did it recover - by devaluing all commodities and greatly reducing wages across the board.
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>>413655
Buy low, sell high
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 No.413944

>>413663
I know and mass war saved it, this kinda war will (likely occur) and cause the ecological death of the means to civilization. Capitalism got lucky then it won't this time which is is why ancap is a retard.


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 No.401057[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread revolves around the 2022 Olympics! What do you guys think about the Games? What do you guys think of the boycott? Would this game gross high on tickets? Would this game be a time when China flexes its new stuff to the world? Would this game invite huge protests (particularly in the Western world)? Would this game Would this game be a safe one, or would it be a super-spreader event? Would you like to buy its merch, or wouldn't you?
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 No.413802

>>413799
Reactions are split between I like him for not caring about how he and his anime celebration look and the other half is making fun of him.
https://boards.4channel.org/sp/thread/111814446
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 No.413885

A Marxist-Leninist critique of anti-sport assholes: elitists posing as leftists.

Two examples of renowned "lefty philosophers" I've seen the last decade that come out against sports openly (Olympics, FIFA World Cup, etc.) are Chomsky (USA) and TGM (HUN).

Their main arguments are the following:
>1. sports don't matter, what really matters is politics
>2. sports are part of the Spectacle™, a form of distraction
>3. sports reinforce bourgeois nationalism

Let's take these down, one by one.
>1. sports don't matter, what really matters is politics
Really depends on what an individual (moreover, and typically, a member of a certain class) deems meaningful, moreover, what really matters is understanding the actual process by which certain phenomenon (such as sports) gain significance to one class (proletarian, typically), while gets scorn from another (intelligentsia, typically).

A typical "lefty academic" spent his entire adult life faced with overwhelming evidence why the current capitalist system – on an intellectual, ethical, aesthetic, etc. level – is completely undesirable, destructive, moronic, while the typical proletarian really just wants another way out from the inhumane production process, a way to relax the fuck out. Now if you pointed out this latter fact to the intellectual, he would be inclined to say that "that is exactly the problem! only if these proles were more politically conscious, less "dumbed down," and so on!"

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 No.413917

>>413885
>Watching a good match in soccer
lol doesn't exist
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 No.413940

Is the US getting rekted in basketball? That's all I want to see.
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 No.413942

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>>413885
Didn't read, watching beach volleyball instead.


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 No.413000[Reply]

<God bless America, land that I love. Stand beside her and guide her. Through the night with the light from above

You cannot understand the burger mentality until you understand American Civic/Civil religion, a form of religious nationalism that is parallel to Christianity and operates as a (ironically, arguably idolatrous) form of pseudo-religion or pseudo-Christianity. Rural burgers believe in American civil religion to their CORE, not the educated urbanites I mean the “real” america, the anglo rural "christian" boomers of the 90% of burgerland that isn’t major metropolitan areas, the so called “hinterland”.

>assumes the existence of a vague, generic “God” and a belief that the United States has a special god-appointed role to play by saving the world by spreading “liberty” and american style “democracy” and capitalism around the world.

>has its own values, beliefs, rituals, and holidays parallel to christian holidays
>puritans who fled from europe for religious “liberty” are like the hebrews who fled from Egypt
>America is the “new promised land”. God had lead them across the ocean and given them the land of the natives, just as God led the Hebrews through the desert and given them the land of the Canaanites.
>Manifest destiny – this is their fate that is willed by god and MANIFEST(clear and obvious)
>Puritans believed God had put them there to be a shining city on a hill, a new Jerusalem, bringing their European way of life and protestant beliefs to the native pagans.
>American revolution produced a founder, a Moses-like figure in George Washington
>Prophets – men like Thomas Jefferson and Tom Paine
>Apostles – John Adams, Ben Franklin
>Martyrs – Victims of the Boston Massacre, Nathan Hale
>A “Judas” like traitor – Benedict Arnold, who defected to the British.
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 No.413750

Unfathomably based, I love Columbia and stand with her until the end of days
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 No.413785

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I am a Pr*testant and everything you said regarding Nationalism and American Exceptionalism being forms of idolatry is so blatantly obvious and true to anyone who actually reads the Bible that I don't understand why my congregation is full of boomer conservatives and MAGAtards (though thankfully no Q-Anon shit yet).

I feel like I'm the only one who actually reads my Bible sometimes. It's even worse because us Pr*testants used to be a force for reform - the Social Gospel was basically a Christianized attempt at left-reformist social democracy and sadly was destroyed not only due to culture issues but also businessmen funding and empowering right-wing priests/pastors to drown us out. There's nothing left at this point honestly I'm just waiting until Jesus comes back and nukes Amerikkka to put us all out of our misery.
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 No.413789

>>413023
Translationerino?
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>>413000
AVE WASHINGTON
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>>413817
Ahhhh Amerikkka. A wicked and awful people, rebellious and unrighteous from the very beginning. May God smite these idolatrous beasts and finally free the suffering peoples and nations of the Earth.


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 No.392953[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Previous thread ( >>210868 ) hit bump limit.

We scientific (STEM) socialism here.

READING
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
For a complete reading list, see: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2020/05/01/two-reading-lists/

Cockshott's Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/williamCockshott/

Cockshott's youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ

Cockshott's Blogs
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>>403720
You know there was a huge amount of time before the October Revolution where the army did suppress the workers right?
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>>403575
>it was never fully implemented because coup
F
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 No.413812

Currently reading TANS to get more in depth into cybersoc stuff, and i have a question.
Cockshott says that the calculations for the system would be run by planning softwares on computers, and that a distributed decentralized feedback system for data would be in place.
In such a vision, my question is: Given taht the calculation are to be done in labour hours, how would the SNLT in labour hours for each object be derived?
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 No.413831

>>413812
>Given taht the calculation are to be done in labour hours, how would the SNLT in labour hours for each object be derived?
I am 99.9% sure this gets answered in the book if you keep reading.
Basically you do what Marx already alluded to and count all the compound labor and make an aggregate.

If you make a wooden chair, the labor isn't just your assembly. It's also
1. Getting the wood
2. Getting the hammer
3. Getting the nails

You can break this up further:
1. Transporting all these materials
2. Someone tending after the trees
3. Someone mining resources for the purpose of building the hammer and the nails

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 No.413924

>>413831
Doesn't this require firms not to lie on the necessary labour time for things though?
In a sense isn't there an element of trust in all this?


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 No.413041[Reply]

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>>413068
>really wants to prove how good he is
olympics seem the perfect place for that, idgaf about your cancerous entertainment industry
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 No.413318

Fun and based fact.
Cuba is the LatAm country with most Olympic medals IN HISTORY, they even have more medals than Spain.
And they say socialism doesn't work.
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 No.413325

>>413318
That’s great!
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 No.413348

>>413068
>b-but you cant go pro
>chad worker doing sport on spare time for personal enjoyment and growth vs virgin sport wagecuck doing it for money, sold as an entertainment and advert product
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