/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

its class masked by religion

>>384602
>doesn't it disprove historical materialism due to being motivated by religion and not CLASS CONFLICT?
you don't even know what hismat is

>>384612
This.

Unfortunately, Khomeini used leftists to help him gain power but just shot them after the revolution. He combined the anti-imperialism of the left with the anti-westernism that justified a religious regime.

"We make our history ourselves, but, in the first place, under very definite assumptions and conditions. Among these the economic ones are ultimately decisive. But the political ones, etc., and indeed *even the traditions which haunt human minds also play a part,* although not the decisive one. The Prussian state also arose and developed from historical, ultimately economic, causes. But it could scarcely be maintained without pedantry that among the many small states of North Germany, Brandenburg was specifically determined by economic necessity to become the great power embodying the economic, linguistic and, after the Reformation, also the *religious difference* between North and South, and not by other elements as well (above all by its entanglement with Poland, owing to the possession of Prussia, and hence with international political relations — which were indeed also decisive in the formation of the Austrian dynastic power). Without making oneself ridiculous it would be a difficult thing to explain in terms of economics the existence of every small state in Germany, past and present, or the origin of the High German consonant permutations, which widened the geographic partition wall formed by the mountains from the Sudetic range to the Taunus to form a regular fissure across all Germany."

- Friedrich Engels, Letter to J. Bloch, September 21 1890

In other words, there's more to historical materialism than just the economic part represented through class conflict, even if it usually plays a determining role. The base shapes the superstructure but then the superstructure can react back onto the base and become determining in a given instance.

>>410485
>Unfortunately, Khomeini used leftists to help him gain power but just shot them after the revolution. He combined the anti-imperialism of the left with the anti-westernism that justified a religious regime.
So many people here would naively fall victim to this lmao.

>>409865
I wonder how he accumulated such a following then. Was he charismatic or some such?

>>410125
he was basically a cult leader so yeah

>>409865
he was very poor as a kid so he probably got brain damage from being nutrient deficient

>>409489
seems like global warming is more likely than nuclear holocaust right now

Man I'm trying to imagine an Argentina under Posadas's rule, and all I can think of is a Hoxha kind of situation, but with rockets instead of bunkers.

Just 80% of the GDP dedicated to launch shit into orbit.

Union advocates rally in New York to support striking Alabama coalminers
Dressed in camouflage T-shirts with the slogan “We Are Everywhere”, members of the United Mine Workers Association (UMWA) gathered in midtown Manhattan in front of the headquarters of BlackRock, a hedge fund that is Warrior Met Coal’s largest investor. Over 100 protesters chanted “No contract, no coal!” and “Warrior Met Coal ain’t got no soul!” as trucks and cars driving between the barricades enclosing the protesters honked in support.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jul/28/union-advocates-rally-striking-alabama-coalminers

Biden to allow eviction moratorium to expire Saturday
The White House said President Joe Biden would have liked to extend the federal eviction moratorium due to spread of the highly contagious delta variant of the coronavirus. Instead, Biden called on “Congress to extend the eviction moratorium to protect such vulnerable renters and their families without delay.”
https://apnews.com/article/biden-eviction-moratorium-coronavirus-da0e4cc8014b6c8a658dd1572707364f

Los Angeles City Council voted in favor of anti-homelessness ordinance that would impact roughly 40,000 unhoused Angelenos
The measure, which would replace a similar version known as Municipal Code 41.18, was co-authored by city council members Paul Krekorian and Mark Ridley-Thomas. It would prohibit "sitting, lying, or sleeping or storing, using, maintaining, or placing personal property in the public right-of-way."
https://www.businessinsider.com/los-angeles-city-council-votes-in-favor-of-antihomelessness-ordinance-2021-7

Kyrsten Sinema blocks Democrats' plan to spend $3.5 trillion on infrastructure, setting up major cuts
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona on Wednesday came out in opposition to Democrats' $3.5 trillion spending blueprint, virtually ensuring her party would be forced to make substantialPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

China’s Chernobyl – COVID-19, HBO Vs. Socialism, And The Bad Habit Of Disaster-Watching
Although we love to talk of “learning from history”, it’s true that this is one of those many things in life that’s easier said than done. A single event can teach us many things or it can teach us nothing. It can be universal or particular in its causes and after-effects, and often both at once, and depending on the angle you observe an event from it can mean whatever you want it to. Often we look at things of particular significance and extrapolate them into telling us what we want – for instance, learning from 1938, Chamberlain, and Munich that “it is always wrong to attempt to negotiate with competing powers”, while 1914 would teach us that this approach can be just as disastrous as so-called ‘appeasement’. What happened in Soviet Ukraine in 1986 is an example of the inverse, when an event with universal ramifications was reduced to its particular details. The explosion at Reactor Four of Pripyat’s Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, and the subsequent environmental and political crisis that has scarred Ukraine’s environment for decades since, that pumped deadly amounts of radiation into the air around the world and contributed significantly to the collapse of the Soviet Union, is not taken to be the consequence of improper safety protocols, the capturing of political regulatory organs by vested interests, and the danger of covering up disasters instead of properly responding to them – it’s either simply about nuclear power, or more often – especially in our modern world of western political decay and insecurity – about ‘authoritarianism’. A cursory glance at the facts, and that the second other great nuclear disaster at Fukushima in Japan in 2011 took place within a liberal-democratic state with a free press, makes this claim look very flimsy. Little about Chernobyl’s general causes could be called exclusively Soviet – COVID-19 shows us this, that political cover-ups are an inevitable part of government in the modern world, and that what happened in the USSR in 1986 was Soviet in its particulars but dealt with things that were even present in classic blockbuster movie Jaws, in which the mayor of a small resort town refuses to close the beach even after a shark has mauled several swimmers because it’s the tourist season. So it is that, as with many other issues of our own we’re not willing to face, we take these trappings, journalists thrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thanks news anon

tybna

Good man

giga-reactionary nutcase. the saudis doubled down on theocracy after they killed him and his gang to increase their control of the religious population and avoid what went down with the shahs in Iran.

If his Putsch had somehow succeeded the sect he was part of (The Ikhwahn) would have basically tried to make Saudi Arabia look like the Rashidun Caliphate.

Which would have basically meant pol-potting Saudi 'Civilisation' until it was even more backwords and reactionary then it actually is rn IRL.

On the plus side since they literally thought that everyone should be a goat herding pastoralist they probably would have blown the oilwells for being heathen decadence and crashed the planets oil market, which would have been fun.

I can't get over all the crazy shit that went down in 1979, that was definitely the year in which the whole world did a 180.

>>408918
>On the plus side since they literally thought that everyone should be a goat herding pastoralist they probably would have blown the oilwells for being heathen decadence and crashed the planets oil market, which would have been fun.
What is it called if you unintentionally engage in praxis with no theory?

>>399934
Proles don't live in Manhattan at all, much less Times Square (notorious tourist trap)
Brooklyn is basically stacked to the brim with red brick townhomes

>>404230
t. Dengist beetle

>>404169
You never become "immune" to ads because ads don't work that way. Advertisers know that you get frustrated everytime you see an ad, but they also know that you quickly "forget" it and relegate the ad to your subconscious. Later on, when you have to make a choice about a product, you get a "hunch" that a certain product is good. That "hunch" was created by subconscious advertising influences. The reason why ads are so flashy and annoying is to get you to just glance at it for a second.

>>402871
did you take that pic? theres like 3 of those stores in existence, theres one next to a casino in oklahoma.

>>409526
The sigma male meme is when libertarianism lost all of it's edge, or at least signaled it's death. Unlike the transformative alpha, the sigma accepts his fate and tries to live on the fringes. He is always grinding while the alpha lives powerfully. The sigma is basically the buck broken alpha, a powerful figure of neoliberalism while the alpha is chaos incarnate commie and also fascist as a symbol. I think that the radical energies of the 2010's wll subside as woke libertarianism takes it's hold. A fusion between peterson-esque grindset responsibility and woke capitalism.

Libertarians from ten years ago are the sovereign citizens of today. Notice how sovcits these days love the don't tread on me flag, bitcoin and yellow flag. Old sovcits weren't all like this.

>>407721
I know a zionist right-libertarian who unironically reads Rand and Nietzsche. I introduced him to "The Individual and his Property" and he started reading it. I can sense that the egopill is digesting. He is the only right-lib I know personally, so I doubt the libertarian movement is making a comeback. You can't use the internet to measure changes in political trends, anon. Basically >>408366 this
>>408048
Ted was a burger so he likely had a cut cock

>>410078
based egoanon, stirner is wonderful as a gateway to the left for libertarians.

>>409596
>I think that the radical energies of the 2010's wll subside as woke libertarianism takes it's hold. A fusion between peterson-esque grindset responsibility and woke capitalism.
so basically the 1990s redux then, complete with "californian ideology" on steroids

>>409666
As much as I support the concept of proletarian, socialist internationalism, this is cringey bullshit and you should be ashamed of yourself for writing it.

>>409666
Marxland here I come!

>>409662
>>409680
What we desire is production. Capitalism permits production and overcomes most barriers to it. But sometimes it goes too fast and starts killing itself (e.g. big line go down, votical schizophrenia from no culture). Fascism slows capitalism down, creates new barriers that then becomes the focus for capitalism to transcend, new lines of production within the limits of profitability. Capitalism cannot overcome the limits of profit and so cannot truly free desire. Fascism creates its own limits in reaction to freed desire. Communism provides an avenue for desire to produce which is not limited by the profit motive. Or something like that it's been awhile since i've read d&g.

The future of 21st century fascism, is the harden nationalist that bangs a table "nation first nation first, but globalizes more and more of the nations assets and capital. "Liberal" capitalism is more honest about this globalization while reactionaries seek to hide it all while playing a lie game of home boy team player. Is this really not the mean divide in the bourgeoisie?

Bump

>>389415
Because /pol/ is way worse and you actually enjoy imageboards.

i like anarchists
i like mls
i don't believe in the existence of leftcoms as a material thing
i like other maoists

>>390315
Not an anarchist, but I'd argue yes, provided they respect already established "anarchist" territories etc. However, we have to work better at communication and keep infighting to more of a theoretical basis as opposed to killing eachother via Russian Civil War.

>>393250
this. imagine explaining any of this shit to someone who isn't part of your retarded little subculture.

>>389189
Why does revisionism is considered bad?, Marx was no prophet nor the manifesto some god-sent book in the end the more you notice even Lenin or Stalin would be considered a revisionist i the end the capitalism that Marx criticized evolved instead of collapsing

>>409759
If you've read any real history, almost all metrics of social health like social capital, crime, and mental illness were nonexistent compared to today, but there was hierarchy and no brown people so it HAD to have been the worst place on earth

>>409787
>social capital
A literal feudal shithole.
>Mental illness
Diseases and famine caused a lot mental illness.
>crime
Still existed back in the day fucktard.
You want to prove that "dae old days" were better but everytime you pick the worst fucking examples possible literal mudholes were 99% of the population were iliterate on top of having poverty left and right, like a said you don't care about your living conditions cause you are bellow subhuman.

>>409831
>it’s thingnoticer
Opinion discarded.

>>409831
NOTICED

>>391182
>"Western" civilization is a myth that was invented after WW2, in an effort to rehabilitate Nazism
When the civilization you've created is so shit that you have to pretend there was never an objectively better one

This is a lot less complicated than you think. The less repressive societies were more accommodating to the demands of would be revolutionaries. Meanwhile the societies that didn't compromise at all generated a revolution