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 No.402975[Reply]

Liberals and Socdems swear on it so much, that I really start wondering if it actually is capable of replacing coal as the main source of energy. I am scepitcal ofcourse. Imo we fucked it up a long time ago when we ruled out nuclear fission as a temporary alternative, but those "progressives" always screech at me for suporting a "terrible" alternative such as nuclear and they have science and facts on their side to demonstrate how renewables are the future.
Well, what says the opposition? Are there studies that show us renewables are nowhere near replacing coal in its capacity?
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 No.403135

>>403123
>There is no alternative to the concentrated potential energy of fossil fuels that can maintain the current civilization at scale. There's a reason fossil fuels are used. There is no other source of energy on earth as readily available and as concentrated.
Nuclear power is more concentrated, and thorium isotopes are available literally everywhere, if you take any cubic meter of dirt your will get more energy return on energy investment than from the best oil and gas deposits.
>but the fact is there is no current technological replacement for fossil fuels that would allow industrial society to continue to operate at the present scale
nuclear power could generate much more energy than fossil fuel.
>>403127
>Besides nuclear, let me add. But it seems off the table for various political and emotional reasons.
oh you just added that correction, well fuck it i already typed out the comment so i'll post it anyway

>>403134
You should always improve efficiency by reducing waste, but that should not be an excuse to not increase energy production.
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 No.403139

>>403135
I'm very interested in the viability of nuclear fusion. It seems that there have been many breakthroughs recently. It has many of the advantages of fission but is safer. Realistically it should be the number 1 priority for sustainable energy investment. Wind turbines and solar panels are supplemental at best.
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 No.403169

>>403139
>I'm very interested in the viability of nuclear fusion.
The technology is already viable now if you are willing to build reactors the size of a city-block. Put them into shallow places in the ocean, and use the unfathomably vast heat energy output for thermal-splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen can be pumped to gas-turbines or reverse electrolysis stacks to make electricity. You could even use the hydrogen as feed stock for synthetic chemical fuel.

It would be extremely expensive, but still cheaper than fighting wars for control over oil. Half the worlds military budget would do it.
Best case scenario for building this is 10 years worst case 30 years.

Smaller fusion reactors are more technically complicated than the mega-sized one, and developing that would probably take longer than a few ultra large construction projects. There are a few private companies that claim to be on the cusp of commercializing small economical reactors, but so far nothing concrete has materialized. Like with all these ultra high-tech ventures you have to assume it's vaporware until proven otherwise.
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 No.403173

>>403169
>It would be extremely expensive, but still cheaper than fighting wars for control over oil.
For now. It's still an experimental technology. Look how much cheaper chips got over time.

>Smaller fusion reactors are more technically complicated than the mega-sized one, and developing that would probably take longer than a few ultra large construction projects.


Prototypes of a new technology are always big and clunky. The first computers filled warehouses. Eventually as more is learned and fine tuned, the components are miniaturized. We need a proof of concept that fusion can generate more energy than it takes to make it happen before it gets taken seriously as a power source.
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 No.403185

>>403173
No, you missunderstand the big reactor is a fundamentally different type of fusion reactor, that has to be huge because of the physics that are involved. The big one will certainly work and produce so much energy that normal heat-engines like turbines can't handle it, and it needs an intermediate step of thermalizing water.

The small reactors aren't better, from a technical perspective, it's a trade off: wait longer for technical development, to make upfront initial capital cost lower. It will not be like computers where miniaturization increases performance.

>We need a proof of concept that fusion can generate more energy than it takes to make it happen

that is already proven.


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 No.402708[Reply]

How do I phrase this
<in simple terms it's not great
>in long terms
It feels rushed and unplanned(which makes sense since they had a population boom and hence needed to grow their economy at the same rate as their population), like the leading designers carelessly placed a bunch of farmland all over the fucking country and place cities wherever it was convenient with 0 regard as to the long term side effects of such reckless decision making skills in the process of building the country, somewhat similar to how orks in warhammer 40k have a tendency to develop their Mahinery without much thinking but with Hope's that it simply works. What's worse about chinese infrastructure is you'll know in hindsight that citizens of the chinese government will be using these poorly thought out cities will be living in them for decades where the idea of major infrastructure collapsing and factories randomly fucking exploding and leaving dozens if not 100s dead is seen as an everyday occurrence. All I can say about chinese infrastructure is that it needs major and I mean MAJOR renovations because their are currently cities in fucking subsaharan africa that have gone through wars riots and all kinds of mayhem that are still standing tall and are still functional, I hope the chinese labour force doesnt age itself into extinction to make renovating the country to improve the future of the next generation of chinese citizens
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 No.403048

It feels 'rushed' because you in all likelihood live in a country where it takes 15 years to build a single highway or a railroad line.
This is what a government of movement and action geared towards helping working people looks like
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 No.403051

Gib me sources.
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 No.403054

>>403048
Recently they dropped a 600km/h (373m/h) maglev train that btfo'd Japan's JR
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 No.403067

The Great Canal and Yu laugh at this *ngloid. Also while burgers argue over whether green energy is problematic, their government has made deserts green again. Sage.
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 No.403099

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>>403009
I openly actively root for China now. The U.S doesn't give a fuck about its citizens. It's infustructure is collapsing right now. It's our dams and bridges that are falling apart. The government is a far right gentocracy police state, health care is non-existen, there's mass shootings daily and half the country is on fire. That's just the obvious surface level problems, even our "great" military is so bloated with corruption they waste over a trillion to develop a plane that can't fly. If China is the orks what the fuck are Americans? I guess the imperium of man makes sense. We're a reactionary dead empire run by the daily sacrifice to a literal corpse and living off ancient infustructure.


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 No.385010[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Why do communists have such cynical views on love and romance?

It seems like every communist and anarchist I know not only hates the idea of marriage and monogamy but also the concept of "love" itself. They hold that having emotional attachments to one special person to be reminiscent of private property relations.

Anyone have thoughts on this?
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 No.401725

>>401498
>This isn't normal at all, unless you live in very rural, very isolated communities.
Define "very rural" and "isolated". Because this is very contextual in regards to the time being discussed. For example, this is literally a common occurance in the Philippines, even today.
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 No.402963

LOVE'LL GET YOU LIKE A CASE OF ANTHRAX
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 No.403010

>>401523
Do you mean that it would be neither progressive nor conservative? I Always thought socialist countries were kind of middle of the road on that kind of stuff usually.
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 No.403045

>>385484
have my babies


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 No.400583[Reply]

>Dorothy Day (November 8, 1897 – November 29, 1980) was an American journalist, social activist and anarchist who, after a bohemian youth, became a Catholic without abandoning her social and anarchist activism. She was perhaps the best-known political radical among American Catholics.

>began as an anarchist/socialist

>read Marx and Kropotkin
>""ex"" communist
>part of the Catholic Worker Movement
>distributist
>sided with republicans in spanish civil war despite church being on francos side
>ww2 pacifist
>later associated with the new left
>praised castro and ho chi minh
>dunked on the new left and disliked free love, premarital sex & pot
>defended Solzhenitsyn
>visited the Kremlin
>Jailed while protesting with Cesar Chavez
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 No.402971

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>>401402
>religious communist
>oxymoron
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 No.402982

>>402969
>>402971
Latin American caths are based, european caths are cucked and porky pilled
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 No.403004

>>402982
They're scum, and I'm a spic myself
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 No.403027

>>401457
>>402982
Most catholics are non European now. It’s mostly Latin America and Africa.
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 No.403057

protestantism was somewhat arguably progressive in medieval times and also animated a number of movements for social justice in burgerland, for better or worse though as the current spate of wokeism can attest


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 No.390345[Reply]

Do marxist really belive that if hitler wasn't born, 6 millions would still be dead at the end of world war 2?
That operation barbarossa would be a failure?
Or that if gorbachov wasn't born the soviet union would still fall?
Or that if trotsky succeded lenin the USSR would be the same thing as with Stalin?
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 No.402948

>>390345
Do marxist really belive that if hitler wasn't born, 6 millions would still be dead at the end of world war 2?
Marxists reject the idea of greatman theory because to argue that Hitler was directly responsible for all the atrocities of WWII is a somewhat reductive analysis. Yes, Hitler gave the order, but who pulled the trigger? Yes, Hitler gave speeches, but who gave him the microphone?
Hitler was the face and the commander of the Nazi regime, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that he was alone in building the Nazi war machine and enforcing it. Alongside him were others who shared his genocidal aspirations, who (if we are to deal with hypotheticals) could have also followed suit and did what hitler did.
Alexander the great was nothing without his army. It's due to the fact that most historians portray and write history as more of a story often with a lack of materialist analysis that we get these greatman theories. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of people in the world who could, if given power, be like Adolf Hitler, but they lack the connections, resources and men to do so.

>That operation barbarossa would be a failure?

Again, a hypothetical. But at the end of the day, Babarossa was a failure.

>Or that if gorbachov wasn't born the soviet union would still fall?

Again, a hypothetical, at the end of the USSR fell.

>Or that if trotsky succeded lenin the USSR would be the same thing as with Stalin?

Again, also a hypothetical. We can see the ideological differences in both sides, but we can only speculate and imagine how the USSR would have changed based on these policies being enacted, which again, leads us to analysing history as more of a story and have us try to analyse material conditions which may or may not have arisen based on said policies.
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 No.402960

>>390411
Both of those were porkies factions. At best it would be difference with nationalist liberal and full neolib factions. By the time when Gorby came into picture USSR was already done for.
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 No.402976

>>390938
>I agree but a historian guy on reddit said that historical materialism is bullshit
r/historymemes isn't inhabited by historians you know?
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 No.402984

>if hitler wasn't born
Yes
>that if gorbachov wasn't born the soviet union would still fall
Highly likely
>trotsky succeded lenin
Now that's just leaving alternative history for a pure fantasy scenario lol
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 No.402986

I think you're all the greatest… posters!


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 No.401001[Reply]

Do marxists have something to say against this field that is so heavily dominated by the analytic school and their methodology? Is the scientifc methody as it is right now, faulty or not? Is the verifaction principle truly the non-plus ultra of scientific praxis? Then how is physics called a science when it is based on abstract models, while psychology is constantly criticized for not being up to par with scientific standards?
Pic somewhat related since he wrote "Materialism and empirio-criticism"
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 No.401060

>>401047
Not really my wheelhouse here but looking at it from a distance way over in the humanities department, I fear there is a lot of overlap between le epic chungus Redditor infographics telling people conservative social views are a mental illness and what the research that is actually getting published.

The social sciences are a joke. They are 100% ideology at this point.
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 No.401076

>>401060
>Not really my wheelhouse here but looking at it from a distance way over in the humanities department
Depends. If you are studying philosophy, then maybe this thread is your wheelhouse
>The social sciences are a joke. They are 100% ideology at this point
I saw some anon the other day, that stated, the reason for the replication crisis in the social sciences is because of poor funding and not because the social sciences are built on inherently unfertile ground
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 No.402881

Tbh, the actual undergrad philosophy of science classes can be pretty decent, even in the broadly analytic school.

A lot of controversies and problems are usually exposed if the university program is good. Hume and the problem of induction, problems in running regressions, time or location dependent definitions, tge issue of world of discourse and paradigms, etc.

The problem exists more outside of philosophy in that the physical & social sciences that often have a very crude positivist philosophical outlook.
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 No.402884

>>402881
>The problem exists more outside of philosophy in that the physical & social sciences that often have a very crude positivist philosophical outlook
Is that true though? I thought that logical positivism has been discredited all through academia
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 No.402891

>>402884

How to describe it… Its like it lingers on in a zombie like state. The views sort of held spontaneously even though it is pretty much reject by most schools of philosophical thought in one respect or another.


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 No.396641[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Russia today is much weaker than the Romanov Empire, which existed from 1613 to 1917, or the Soviet Union. Russia's biggest problem is Internal: this huge Eurasian country could not create a national identity that would cover its entire population. Millions of Russian citizens are doubtfully loyal to their state, and as soon as Moscow loosens its tight control over local elections, which is likely to happen only when Putin is no longer president, these groups will seek independence. Separatism is a time bomb, which Putin is so afraid of, will explode in 10, 20 years.

Why? Here are the three main reasons:

First, and most importantly, the separatist impulses inside Russia are strong. As two examples, let's take Tatarstan and Bashkortostan, two ethnic autonomous republics in the center of Russia. There are strong nationalist organizations in these republics-Azatlyk (Union of Tatar Youth) and Bashkir Kuk Bure (Heavenly Wolf)-which call for unity with other Turkic-speaking and Finno-Ugric peoples of the region. Both still keep the memory of the capture of Kazan by Ivan the Terrible, which occurred in 1552 and led to the fact that for five hundred years there has been a sense of loss in both republics. As we saw during the Russian-Chechen wars of the 1990s and early 2000s, in which tens of thousands of people died, separatist movements in Russia can be bloody and prolonged. These may not be only ethnic minorities: ethnic Russians living in Siberia, the Urals and the Far East, rich in natural resources, have tried several times to achieve independence, and the Kremlin's predatory policy in these regions contributes to this in every possible way.

Under Putin's successor, the country's tense unity may finally give way to these separatist plans. One can only guess who will be the next ruler, but it is likely that Putin will personally choose him or her at the very end of his term of office, and it is unclear whether this successor will be able to continue the strong grip that Putin held on various groups and regions. And, in the absence of a system of checks and balances or any other strong institutions in Russia, this level of control may simply be necessary to ensure the existence of the country as a whole. So Vyacheslav Volodin, deputy head of the Kremlin administration, can see how his famous words come true: "If there is Putin, there is Russia; if there is no Putin , there is no Russia."

Secondly, the unifying ideology of RusPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.398798

>>398006
one of the group receiving weapons was al nosra, aka al qaeda in syria
basically all the anti assad groups were jihadists, the other groups were barely existing fiction propped up by intelligence service to make it seem like they weren't straight up arming islamists, but thats what they were objectively doing. Basically plausible deniability

also
>According to the Wiki
wikipedia is a pile of garbage for anything controversial, you still cant point out how the chemical attacks were obvious false flag and the cover up of it by OIAC direction against the wish of the analysts. That it is on wikipedia just show how not hidden that shit is.


>>398156
good post. Reminder to shit on both the retards uncritically supporting of any political force in feud with the US, and the libs using shit argument to justify imperialism and US dominance
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 No.398966

>>398798
>one of the group receiving weapons was al nosra, aka al qaeda in syria
I cannot find any sources saying that the US armed them directly. Rather, the information I have gathered suggests that the US gave arms to other groups, with those arms, by various means, ending up in Al-Nusra hands later on. Can you provide me any sources that say the US directly armed Al-Nusra and/or wanted its arms to end up in their hands?
>basically all the anti assad groups were jihadists, the other groups were barely existing fiction propped up by intelligence service to make it seem like they weren't straight up arming islamists, but thats what they were objectively doing. Basically plausible deniability
What evidence do you have that this is the case?
>wikipedia is a pile of garbage for anything controversial
Provide a better source then
>you still cant point out how the chemical attacks were obvious false flag and the cover up of it by OIAC direction against the wish of the analysts.
I wasn't talking about those attacks, and I honestly am not knowledgeable enough about the subject to say if they were done by Assad or not

Just to be clear, I am not trying to justify US intervention in the region. Regardless of who they are supporting, it would be best to leave Syria to its own devices. Let the different factions slug it out without outside interference.
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 No.399521

Россия может умереть, но СССР будет жить.
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 No.399610

>>397984
>>398134
Бургеры опять манямир развели, что поделать.

>>398156
The correct take.
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 No.402806

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>>396641
>Russia is coming to an end
Holy based this epic must happen again.


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 No.369730[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

So what's /leftypol/ consesus on Moscow Trials? Was it a farce? Or were they actually guilty? Was there a trotsko-fascist conspiracy? Are all the testimonies fake?
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 No.401373

>>401183
>https://istmat.info/node/22301
<Между тем Вам хорошо известно, что в мусават[ист]скую разведку я был послан партией и что вопрос этот разбирался в ЦК АКП(б) в 1920 году в присутствии Вас, т. Стасовой, Каминского, Мирза Давуд Гусейнова, Нариманова, Саркиса, Рухулла Ахундова, Буниатзаде и друг. (В 1925 г. я передал Вам официальную выписку о решении ЦК АКП(б) по этому вопросу, которым я был совершенно реабилитирован, т. к. факт моей работы в контрразведке с ведома партии был подтвержден заявлениями тт. Мирза Давуд Гусейнова, Касум Измайлова и др.) Тов. Датико, который передаст Вам это письмо, расскажет подробности.

>https://istmat.info/node/22146

<В 1920 году в адрес бывшего в то время секретаря ЦК КП(б) Азербайджана Каминского поступило заявление о моем сотрудничестве в контрразведке в пользу мусаватистов. Это заявление было предметом специального разбора на Президиуме ЦК АКП(б), и я был реабилитирован.
<По совету Гуссейнова я подал заявление начальнику контрразведки об увольнении с работы и был уволен беспрепятственно. Истинной причиной моего ухода из контрразведки являлось то, что эта контрразведка стала полностью муса-ватистской.

Do you even read the stuff that you post? You do you just hope that everybody here is as much of an illiterate brainlet as you and will just take you at your word? He was there literally at the behest of the party Hummet (which later became part of the soviet government) and left after it became fully musavatist.

>ignored the fact that there were the already mentioned "July days" and that the bolsheviks were never hiding that they want to overthrow the provisional government.

I already said that it is a completely different thing. Warning the enemy of the imminent military uprising is a betrayal, clear and simple.

Again i will ask you, if it wasn't a betrayal why were they removed from CC after that? Why was Lenin angry with them if it was an allright thing to do? You tried to deflect this question because you have no answer.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.402767

>>398757
Because liberals can't stop crying and Stalin is making them asshurt yet again because they have the legal and political understanding of the trials of amoebas.

>>383476
It was a formal event of the Germans abiding by the updated treaty of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and handing over areas that were agreed upon as belonging under Soviet influence. They marched out and the USSR marched in.
A formality of diplomatic agreement for the sake of PR, nothing more.
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 No.402773

>>383457
The Soviet delegation with the Nazi delegation is seeing off the German forces and LATER the incoming Soviet forces, this is neither a parade nor is it a united action, but a formal diplomatic posturing of the area being passed from German hands to Soviet hands.
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 No.402778

>>382524
>1.7 million deserters
Where the hell did you get that number? The collective collaborationist military forces under German service didn't even reach half a million
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 No.402786



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 No.401355[Reply]

Not a Burger, but why some people on this board support these clowns?
To me they just seem a bunch of schizos who have some scientology tier views.
What can these people give to a revolution? What good would be for a prole to join these kind of cults?
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 No.402191

>>401355
>>401355
>not burger
>rationalizes like one
<implying is religion, not capital interests, what holds a nation to how to behave and how to de-evolve in the history.
OP positive for cancerous spooked westernoid libtard.
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 No.402623

>>402191
What the fuck is this post?
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 No.402665

Basically is some retard reactionary shirt, that some black people in America support therefore it's based because otherwise we are rassyssst.
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 No.402680

>>401355
I'm not really a fan of them but I don't see them as much of a threat either.
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 No.402684

>>402680
Because they are small and meaningless


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 No.402172[Reply]

was there ever a point when imperialism was a force for good ? was it the best way to bring the different peoples of the world to the modern age ? if yes then at what point did it go bad ?

pic semi related: its a japanese portrayal of commodore perry's ships
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 No.402175

>>402172
It was a progressive force, like capitalism, not a force for good, but inevitable.
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 No.402322

>>402172
Every form of capitalism becomes pointless at the precise moment that socialism becomes possible in the society.
I think all thoughtful communists have to concede that the advancement of capitalism through imperialism was good in the sense that it indisputably allowed for the construction of socialism whatsoever, and possibly even accelerated it.
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 No.402589

>>402175
I wouldn't say imperialism was inevitable. If we look at the French Revolution, the French revolutionary was still able to curb stomp the feudal armies just with industrialization and mass mobilization and if the Hébertists (that was most revolutionary wing that wanted to drown class division in blood and a dictatorship of the urban working class) was able to spread the revolution like they wanted to then then the French Revolution stopped capitalism before it got that far.
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 No.402625

>>402172
Like what Indonesians did in 1928 imperialism can also boost self-determination.
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 No.402636

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Lol no. The earths untapped natural resources coupled with the amount of unused land found all over the planet would make imperialism economically inefficient and an easy way to make enemies quickly, if a country becomes imperialistic that represents a problem with the inefficiencies of the system that country operates under along with a decay in technological growth


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