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 No.349853[View All]

The planet continues to warm and create devastating shifts to the ecosystems across the world.

I've been noticing that each year that goes by without a united approach. The seasons of the year get more and more out of tune to the usual range of expectations.

Resources:
GREENPEACE BRIEFING
Donors Trust: The shadow operation that has laundered $146 million in climate-denial funding - https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/wp-content/uploads/legacy/Global/usa/planet3/PDFs/DonorsTrust.pdf

Anarchist Libraby query on climate change - https://theanarchistlibrary.org/search?query=climate%20change&sort=&filter_topic=%2Fcategory%2Ftopic%2Fecology&filter_topic=%2Fcategory%2Ftopic%2Fgreen-anarchism&filter_topic=%2Fcategory%2Ftopic%2Fgreen&filter_topic=%2Fcategory%2Ftopic%2Fenvironment

Europe's climate denial funding - https://corporateeurope.org/en/2010/12/funding-climate-change-denial.

Current Hot Topics:
Enbridge Line 3 pipeline protests

Miami Condo Collaspe could be climate change related: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/29/miami-condo-collapse-questions-climate-change

(Will add more later.)
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 No.389932

>>352652 kek
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 No.390131

>>388419
>>388580
Desert is not anprim my retarded frens
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 No.390453

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>>381646
>Make a lot of solar panels and wind turbines
>Have no plans for when there is no wind and sun
>Outages every year
We need more solar and wind turbines. Please ignore that China, Mongolia and Germany are burning all the coal.
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 No.390457

>>390453
Have you never heard of Thorium nuclear power plants?

Seriously it’s such a obvious solution to the energy problem.
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 No.390459

>>381630
>Let investors build homes in floodable land to make more money
>cut the budget of the infrastructure made to prevent flood
>Ignore all alarms about an imminent flooding
<It's global warming fault.
Good old scapegoat. It's like the forest fire in countries that have cut the budget of forest fire prevention.
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 No.390462

>>390457
No. Fusion reactors are. Thorium reactors are good to fuel 3rd generation nuclear power plants for the next 200 years and we can produce 75% of the energy humanity need with both of them and after that, the fusion reactors will be ready.
But that would solve the problem.
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 No.390468

>>390462
Yeah that’s sort of what I meant, that it would be a more immediate short-term solution we can do for now until nuclear fusion gets off the ground.
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 No.390474

>>390453
Isn't this image a bit of a meme (And hasn't China been switching over towards "Clean" energy anyways)
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 No.390482

>>390474
It's just an outright fabrication. The windmills in Texas were fine, our natural gas pipelines froze and the frozen roads meant the workers needed to constantly maintain them couldn't get there.
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 No.390484

>>390482
KEK. It seems like all these "Dirty" energy fags just do this shit in order to piss off the libs and to have their image as a bunch of rough and "real" men (Depsite them barely even being more physically fit than those libcucks)
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 No.390487

>>390468
So, all the greens and enviromentalists are FOR nuclear energy and ot against, right? They do want to stop climate change, right? They are not just tools of the powerful to reduce our liberties and to justify new taxes, right?

>>390474
Which one? Everyone know that frau Merkel have to burn trillions of tons of coal because she decided to close all the nuclear power plants without any reason. They said they were going to go full wind and sun and butterfly and it turned to be a lie.

We also saw nice pictures of Texans discovering snow and being completely fucked by the green new deal. Sure, one pipeline froze and a nuclear power plant was shut down for maintenance but it was marginal. Being dependent of the weather caused this crisis.

As for China, their objective is to sell us more solar panels and wind turbines. The energy they use to mae them still come from coal and that mean the carbon emission of solar panels is higher than gas power plants.
I guess, by going green they mean they bought some EPR and AP1000 to steal the technology.
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 No.390489

>>390462
Fusion reactors are a completely unnecessary meme. Thorium can be good to fuel molten salt reactors for a few decades while we switch to lunar solar power. We don't need fusion if we go back to the moon.
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 No.390490

>>390487
Are you even a communist?
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 No.390494

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>>390487
>The energy they use to mae them still come from coal and that mean the carbon emission of solar panels is higher than gas power plants.
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 No.390496

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>>390489
1: just grow alguas and make them rot to get methane
2: why on the moon and not in orbit? The thousants of m/s needed isn't justified.

>>390484
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 No.390501

>>390496
>2: why on the moon and not in orbit? The thousants of m/s needed isn't justified.
Because massive amounts of propellant are needed to constantly maintain the orbits of massive amounts of solar satellites. Whereas the moon is already in orbit and you can construct massive amounts of panels entirely from lunar materials. It turns out the thousands of m/sec to reach the moon are totally justified, so energetically favorable that it completely blows out other renewable energy sources.
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 No.390506

>>390484
It frustrating that we cant have clean energy because it's "gay" or some shit. People are being tricked out of energy independence by the lowest common dominator of propaganda. The problem Renewables have is that the U.S hasn't invested in any type of grid battery's and is running off of a barely 20th century power grid.
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 No.390509

>>390501
>Because massive amounts of propellant are needed to constantly maintain the orbits
Go play Kerbal. The moon have been orbiting our planets for millions of years, the solar panels will be safe. At the very least, make them orbit the moos so they are in the dark only 1% of the time and not 50%.
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 No.390514

>>390506
Who said that solar is gay? We can't have it because it's expensive, it's unreliable and photovoltaic panels are made of materials that are not renewable.
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 No.390517

>>390509
In fact it's very difficult to make things orbit the moon stably because of its gravitational anomalies. There are peaks of perpetual light on the moon as well. The gigantic amount of rocket fuel to move the required amount of solar panel mass to actually replace fossil fuel infrastructure into Earth orbit and keep it there may not be worth the cost. But making panels out of the moon itself and beaming the energy back is hugely favorable.
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 No.390518

>>390453
lol I wish there was snow like that in germany, unsurprisingly, facebook posts arent good sources
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 No.390521

>>390518
It never snows in Germany?
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 No.390524

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>>390514
All minerals are renewable they just need to be recycled. Renewable are already cheaper than fossil fuels even without subsidies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesellsmoor/2019/06/15/renewable-energy-is-now-the-cheapest-option-even-without-subsidies/?sh=7ca5d65a5a6b
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 No.390537

>>390524
>Renewable are already cheaper than fossil fuels even without subsidies.
That's why third world countries that simply go cheap because they have no other choice are going full solar.
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 No.390950

>>389809
>everyone that says something I don't like or disagree with is a fed
Grow up, faggot
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 No.390951

>>389809
Take your meds, schizo
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 No.390953

>>390131
Yes it is.
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 No.390954

>>390462
Fusion reactors are a pipe dream
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 No.390958

>>390459
>the increased severity in storms and hot streaks is the fault of lack of infrastructure
Kill yourself, faggot.
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 No.390962

>>390954
Mechanical confinement fusion is probably going to be the future by being significantly simpler in important ways.
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 No.390968

>>390962
NTA but we can't plan climate change mitigation/reversal using tech that doesn't exist yet
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 No.390971

>>390457
>thorium shill
>no mention of the protactinium problem
every time
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 No.390998

>>390971
You mean the "problem" that protactonium can be turned into weapons grade uranium that can be used in nuclear reactors? Because that sounds like a feature to me, not an issue
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 No.391071

>>390487
fuck off retard
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 No.391072

Lol
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 No.391088

>>390968
It already does exist though?
It's been under development for a few years and is much more promising than inertial/magnetic confinement
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 No.391089

>>390517
>Beaming the energy back
Isn't this just kicking the can down the road? Like what happens to the energy beam if it's cloudy lol
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 No.391094

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>>391089
>til clouds obscure microwaves
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 No.391100

>>390971
Better than the plutonium problem.
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 No.391105

>>391089
>>391094
They actually don't. That's the point of using microwaves.
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 No.391126

>>389809
this sounds like the critique of someone who hasnt even read it
it's not all doom and do-nothing
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 No.392033

>>391126
>>390950
>>390951
No, glow harder or go protect some water because you need a bath as you're reeking of broken will, submissive mentality and doomsday cult brainwashing. Yes resources are being threatened but Desert was just memed to demoralize, isolate and distract esp young anarchists from the natural popularity of AÖ and the real organized power his ideas present in praxis.
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 No.392085

>>392033
Take your meds, schizo
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 No.392239

>>391094
>>391105
The atmosphere isn't homogeneous (no homo) and so waves no matter their frequency don't travel in a straight line. (still no homo)
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 No.392251

>>392085
>sChIzOo

Is this even about having an idea to you? Because when you start and end your reaction to all this with 'that idea is illness' you're are thoughtlessly reacting just as an emotionally, cognitively flawed type would, the same type who ends up creating a financially and mentally indentured dependent of the tech, pharma, defense, lifestyle and other companies…which most hinder the necessarily collective work of actually halting and reversing the effects of climate change.
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 No.392952

>>392033
> AÖ
Who the fuck is AO?
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 No.392954

>>392251
Take yoiur meds, schizo
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 No.393867

>>392952
Abdullah Öcalan
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 No.394093

>>393867
>Abdullah Ocalan
>Natural popularity
Lmfao. Only kurds give a shit about him.
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 No.394198

>>388367
You’re genuinely the worst poster on this board, you care more about “owning the soyboy Redditor PMCs” than actually listening to the facts.

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