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 No.389232[View All]

Why the flying fuck are there so many muslims on this planet that view terrorism as okay? I can make a fucking list of terrorists groups from islam alone and I still think I wouldn't have hit them all
>fulani herdesmen
>boko haram
>salafists
>Houthis
>the taliban
>al Qaeda
>isis
>al shabaab
>Hezbollah
What the hell makes people join these fucking cults, terrorism isnt a fucking video game holy fuck
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 No.391925

>>391889
The destabilization of the middle east is about keeping that region from forming coherent state institutions to make them more pliable to imperial oil monopolies. The US also has a century long standing foreign policy goal of preventing the formation of a Eurasian economically linked block.
That could be pitting Germany and Russia against each other, or carving a corridor of chaos through the middle east to undermine the BRI.
> to institute a permanent state of emergency in Western countries and manage impoverishing proles thru fear
They also do that, but it's not the sole cause.
>post-left
I would avoid those tendencies they tend to suffer from reactionary defeatism.
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 No.391944

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Muslims:
>Worship a god with Arabic names
>Have Arabic names themselves
>Read the Quran, a book written in Arabic
>Believe that the Quran can only be understood in Arabic
>Pray 5 times a day in Arabic in the direction of Makkah, an Arabian city
>Get in the 'face-down-ass-up' position twice during every rakat as they whisper words in Arabic to themselves
>Wear clothes that conform to Arabian standards
>Groom their bodies according to Arabian practices
>Get married according to Arabian customs
>Give their children Arabian names and teach them to repeat this cycle again


>Islam began as an Arab religion; it spread as an Arab empire. In Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia—the countries of my itinerary—I was traveling, therefore among people who had been converted to what was an alien faith. I was traveling among people who had had to make a double adjustment—an adjustment to the European empires of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries; and an earlier adjustment to the Arab faith. You might almost say that I was among people who had been doubly colonized, doubly removed from themselves.

Because I was soon to discover that no colonization had been so thorough as the colonization that had come with the Arab faith. Colonized or defeated peoples can begin to distrust themselves. In the Muslim countries I am talking about, this distrust had all the force of religion. It was an article of the Arab faith that everything before the faith was wrong, misguided, heretical; there was no room in the heart or mind of these believers for their pre-Mohammedan past. So ideas of history here were quite different from ideas of history elsewhere; there was no wish here to go back as far as possible into the past, and to learn as much as possible about the past.
Persia had a great past; it had been the rival in classical times of Greece and Rome. But you wouldn’t have believed it in Iran in 1979; for the Iranians, the glory and the truth had begun with the coming of Islam. Pakistan was a very new Muslim state. But the land was very old. In Pakistan were the ruins of the very old cities of Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa. Fabulous ruins, the discovery of which earlier this century had given a new idea of the history of the subcontinent. Not only pre-Islamic ruins; but possibly also pre-Hindu
— Our Universal Civilization, Vidiadhar Surajprasad Naipaul
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 No.391957

tldr
I have come not come to bring peace but the sword
-JC
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 No.391968

poo in the loo
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 No.391977

tbh muslims are very weird in the way they see ethnicity
Like officially arabic is the lunguage of heaven and some of the most vocally racist people i know are from the arab peninsula (and algeria) but i have seen complaints from arabs that pakis are sectarian .
Its worth mentioning that much if the arabization happened the last 50 years
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 No.391983

>>391944
>the 'face-down-ass-up' position
lel
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 No.392004

Ok so what
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 No.392014

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Imagine complaining that a religion encourages people to understand it's religious texts.
I guess obscurantism where only a select few understand the texts and are supposed to dictate truth is prefrable.
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 No.392018

>>391977
mostly it came as a result of ignorance and geographic difficulties, technically we are following Islam the way it's meant to be followed
which means LARPing as Arabs
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 No.392020

It’s not tho and you don’t know what imperialism means
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 No.392029

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what does any of this have to do with leftism? if you want to larp as an ancient indian i'm sure there's plenty of hindutva forums around. you've been shitting up this place with your ethnic nationalist butthurt for days now.
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 No.392037

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>>389242
>>389232

>the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.


Damn dude, forget muslims, we gotta deal with these nuclear power terrorists that massacre indiscriminately worldwide, especially the USA. Them americunts been racking quite the score in global terrorism, not to mention their acts of singular cruelty or brutality clearly designed to inspire fear.

Fuck me, famalam, word is they have everything , from famine to genocide to their name. And they even produce super costly propaganda videogames, movies books, you name it, where the most vile things are passed as righteous because the cult of USA is perpetrating them.
Like , dude, you can turn the TV any hour on any day and there'll be someone paid by the cult telling you how it's actually good to torture , starve , massacre or even genocide/eugenizice foreigners due to their inherent inferiority. Chilling shit, my guy.

Oh oh and their government has companies and doctors and whatever pump their own population FULL of narcotics, like up to the eyebrows in opiates for e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. No healthcare even, they spend all the money on terrorism, lavish megaluxury and child prostitution(and who knows what else with this savages) for their extremely corrupt leaders. Dude, it's so bad that the people who the government sactioned "doctors" pumped full of opiates to make bank off their addiction, have been turning to heroin and shit because it's *cheaper*.

Such a fucked up place, I tell ya.

I feel for the people stuck there but it needs to be dismantled, fam. And pronto, who knows what these crazies are capable of.
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 No.392043

>>392029
Hinduism is a fake meme religion, don't care for it at all, and I'm not a ethnic nationalist
I'm jut not fond of people here caping for the religion of the Arab Pedophile here, alright
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 No.392054

>>389232
>Hezbollah
>Houthis
>terrorism
fuck off hillary
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 No.392055

>>392043
are you the ex-musim guy
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 No.392115

>>392043
>caping for
no one here does this
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 No.392122

>>392043
>Hinduism is a fake meme religion
t. spiritual jew
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 No.392165

>>391849
imagine being so lost by US propaganda you dismiss known facts
retard

>>390117
yeah, I know your ilk would be collaborators fucks. And you would hopefully end up hanged from a street lamp by your fellow countrymen when your US sugar daddies eventually leave the country. faggot
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 No.392176

remember to sage this dumb thread
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 No.392250

>>389255
>Muslim bomb something
>The right think the Jews are to blame
>The left think the CIA is to blame
>Muslim bomb another thing
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 No.392259

>>392250
>the right thinks the jews rule society
>the left thinks the bourgeoisie rule society
wow they are the same, it's like a horse shoe
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 No.392336

>>392259
The CIA don't even obey the president. They even deal drugs to get untraceable funds.

My point was: when Muslims in the middle east kill people in the name of their god and moderate Muslims are fine with this, then Islam have a problem. Not Jews and not "the west".
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 No.392358

>>392336
>The CIA don't even obey the president. They even deal drugs to get untraceable funds.
Completely irrelevant to any point previously made in this thread.

>moderate Muslims are fine with this

Muslims are the ones who are most impacted by this sectarian violence by far, and they're also the vast majority of the people who put their lives on the line to combat it.

>then Islam have a problem

<problems are caused only by bad ideas in people's heads, let's not talk about material conditions or history
You are literally a Harrisite idealist.
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 No.392393

>>392358
Yes, sunni and shia Muslims both think they are the true Muslims and are more or less at war, and the fanatics fight the more or less secular states.
That have more to do with Islam being founded by a warlord and expanding thanks to military conquest than with the CIA.
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 No.392415

Most of those people you complain about come from UAE or Pakistan. They are angry people who are oppressed peoples who are encircled by America, a country that is openly claiming itself as Christian and hence as “crusaders”. I’m not Muslim, in fact I grew up as catholic but I believe they are justified in all that they do and will continue to be justified until America pulls out all economic influence, all political influence but a few diplomatic embassies, all military etc etc. not only that but it must maintain an air of neutrality at all times even if the country were to have a civil conflict and so trade relations would resume. Basically America should not exist in their country as nothing else other than a country they trade with.
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 No.392468

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>>389348
>this is probably a reason that holy wars and the killing of heretics are a bit more prominent in Islam than Christianity
Absolute meme, Christianity has destroyed entire civilisations in its genocidal spread across the world. Just look what Christian nations did to the native populations of the Americas, Australia etc. and also tried in Africa but luckily mostly failed there. In terms of raw historic numbres no religion comes close to the savagery of Christianity.
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 No.392471

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 No.392479

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>>392415
>members of the UAE are oppressed
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 No.392481

>>392479
So the average citizens are not economically fucked? Alongside a government run by an aristocratic family that are paying tribute to the US?
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 No.392498

>>392415
Pakistan was the only ally of the US in south Asia until a decade ago. They are by no mean oppressed by the US. And how are people from the emirate oppressed? By "crusaders" I mean?
Said crusaders give them trillions of $ for their gas. Their Indian and Philippines slaves are oppressed. By Emirates citizens.

>>392468
Christians are not the ones who killed the native, nor do they were killed in the name of a religion. One of the core tenets is to not kill, and if a Christians started to kill people, the Church would immediately excommunicate it. If a priest encouraged him, he would be excommunicated too and rejected by the other Christians.
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 No.392508

>>392498
>if a Christians started to kill people, the Church would immediately excommunicate it. If a priest encouraged him, he would be excommunicated too and rejected by the other Christians.
lmao so you're just a delusional christfag seething about the mohammedans
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 No.392509

>>392468
Please delete this, this is blasphemy.
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 No.392513

>>392498
Then why are average UAE citizens joining Islamic terrorist growls retard? They don’t like the US controlling their resources. The UAE aristocracy are US puppets.
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 No.392517

Islam came a few hundred years after Christianity. They are doing things similar to what Christians did a few hundred years ago. Also Islam developed in a different region than Christianity. Islam developed via the Ottoman Empire while Christianity was developed in Mediaeval Europe. These places have different material conditions. Despite what seems like common sense most Muslims don't live in the Middle East so only using people from the Middle East isn't a good way to judge Muslims as a whole. When it comes to general attitudes it's the result of a lot of foreign meddling. In the case of Iran it was because the last Shah oppressed Muslims and Islam too harshly which set dialectics in motion for a swing back of enraged religious people. Poor living conditions have poor education and you get more religious masses who seek religion as comfort. As for people that join often they had lost someone in an airstrike or just are desperate for money which these groups sometimes offer and they get in through friends and family mainly. There are many factors at play.
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 No.392539

>>392513
If the US controlled their resources, the average emirati would be a fisherman and a goat herder. Why would the US and Europe give them that much money?

The emiratis join the Islamic state because they believe they are the good guys, because they think it's the moral thing to do. If you are looking for an oppressed demographic in the emirate, don't look at the locals.


>>392517
Islam is a lot older than the Ottomans and it don't come from Turkey. Early expansion of Islam was an imperial conquest. Early Christian expansion was converting open minded people in the tolerant Roman empire. The guys in Nepal or Belarus are poor and live in the SOI of a major power, but they don't make ISISs.

Somalia, Madagascar, Siera Leone, Liberia are the poorest countries, and people here are violent by necessity, not because they fall in religion and their religion make them violent.
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 No.392549

>>392539
You’re definitely not a communist
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 No.392554

>>392549
he's a seething christian
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 No.393653

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>>391783
Muhammad was a terrible person. Your wife is just ignorant about their religion, as are most. Muslims. They believe in a fairytale version of Islam. Show this to your wife and make her explain. Watch her struggle or make up some BS excuse.
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 No.393700

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>>389232
Stop legitimizing the imperialist word for rebel. They're not terrorists, terrorists don't exist. Even the Islamic State pales in comparison to what the Assyrian King would do if he could get his hands on you.
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 No.393733

read samir amin now
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 No.393749

That's like saying, "give me a non-Christianophobic answer for why Christians embarked on the crusades." You wouldn't say that because no such word exists.
Stop with the harebrained neoliberalism, and true mind liberation is yours komrade.
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 No.393811

>>393749
That's not what neoliberalism means you retarded faggot
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 No.393838

>>392498
>>392539
>Christians are not the ones who killed the native, nor do they were killed in the name of a religion. One of the core tenets is to not kill, and if a Christians started to kill people, the Church would immediately excommunicate it. If a priest encouraged him, he would be excommunicated too and rejected by the other Christians.
>Early expansion of Islam was an imperial conquest. Early Christian expansion was converting open minded people in the tolerant Roman empire.
Why the fuck do you feel the need to lie? This is, among other things, why I eventually had to stop being a tradcath, because you have to develop this absurd mythology where the church never itself ordered anything reprehensible and that everything bad that was ever done was only done by a few bad apples that always correctly punished by the church, except when they completely weren't. Let's ignore the literal genocide which occured in Europe itself regarding alleged heretic faiths and the nepotistic political backstabbing and appeasing which occured throughout Europe. Many, if not most Christians, were never excommunicated for killing, not even in the case of bloodiest conflicts in Europe. How exactly do you rationalize the Church even condoning something as petty as the Stedinger CrusadeI wonder? And perhaps you should look up what those Christians did in "tolerant Rome" after they took power.
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 No.393848

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I like to think of it in this way;
Imagine for a moment an alternate post-Roman Europe in which Christianity fails to become the prevalent religion and Islam spreads from North Africa, Spain, and Persia into Western Europe and further into the Balkans - fast forward to the modern day, I think we would see Christian terrorist groups not far removed from what we, in our Christian-dominated world, see in Islamic militiant groups.

It is a case of religious conflict that has persisted over hundreds of years, with Christianity not providing a wide array of insurgent systems because they already hold a majority dominion over the imperial epicenters of the world - whereas Islam, most popular in post-colonial or developing countries does not have the same hegemony and so exists within the material conditions to spark an overwhelming militiant movement.

This is also not to say that Christianity, despite being hegemonic in the economic centers of the world, hasn't committed terrorism. Simply their "terrorism" is given a justification, and therefore isn't considered as such. I mean, what else would you call the barbaric conquistadors who put the indigenous people to the sword if they refused Christianity, is that not religious terror?

All organized religion is a sham, etcetera, etcetera. I'm preaching to the choir, no pun intended. You guys probably know this already. We'd also probably see less terror groups if the CIA stopped fucking funding them.
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 No.393863

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>>390100
>national liberation bullshit is reactionary as fuck
Get fucked
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 No.393890

>>392498
LMAO, this → >>392508
Another prime example would be the Crusades. Christians are the biggest barbarians of all theist cucks.

>>392509
LMAO kys, loser. Video related
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 No.393891

>>393890
Huh, weird. Occasionally, I get this bug, where the site reloads, when I post something with a video and then fails to uplead the video.
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 No.393994

>>389232
Not all those groups are terrorists.

The Taliban for example literally just defend their country.
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 No.393996

>>393848
>muslim Austria
give about 20 years kek
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 No.394001


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