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Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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 No.364748

>>364681
>Jack Ma
>disappeared from the public after fucking around trying to get more power and wealth
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 No.365349

>>293090
who is this guy?
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 No.365554

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 No.365558

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 No.366130

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infinitely based
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 No.367018

>>366130

"I don't believe in preventing my people from getting the things they need. I think sanctions are unjust laws and I still do."
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 No.367024

>>364748
>disappeared from the public after fucking around trying to get more power and wealth
<returned with his power and wealth intact
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 No.367253

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North Korea rejects AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccines over blood clot concerns

https://www.rt.com/news/528776-pyongyang-rejects-astrazeneca-covid-19/

North Korea has canceled shipments of Oxford’s AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine that were due to arrive in the country through the Covax program, citing concerns over potentially fatal, but rare, side effects.

A report from the Institute for National Security Strategy (INSS), a South Korean think tank that works closely with the country’s spy unit, has revealed that neighboring North Korea has rejected the import of AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccines due to concerns over a few cases of blood clotting in people following inoculation.

The intelligence information detailed that the hermit kingdom was due to receive some 2 million doses of Oxford’s vaccine in May through the Covax scheme. However, the process had been delayed due to North Korean concerns over the vaccine’s safety, as well as worldwide shortages because of India’s vaccine export ban.

Covax, led by the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, Gavi, the World Health Organization (WHO) and the United Nations International Children’s Emergency Fund, was designed to alleviate vaccine inequity by donating vaccines to countries that cannot afford to produce or procure high volumes of shots.
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 No.367941

>>367024
>returned
when
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 No.369301

Yeonmi changed her story again?
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 No.369337

Leaders of DPRK, China vow greater cooperation in face of foreign hostility.

In a message to China's Xi Jinping, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said their relationship is vital in the face of hostile foreign forces, while Xi promised to bring cooperation "to a new stage", KCNA said.
China has been North Korea's only major ally since the two signed the treaty in 1961, and international sanctions imposed over Pyongyang's nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programmes have made it more dependent than ever on Beijing for trade and other support.
"Despite the unprecedentedly complicated international situation in recent years the comradely trust and militant friendship between the DPRK and China get stronger day by day," Kim said in his message, KCNA reported, using the initials for North Korea's official name.
The treaty is defending socialism and peace in Asia "now that the hostile forces become more desperate in their challenge and obstructive moves," Kim said.
Xi's message said he plans to provide greater happiness to the two countries and their people by strengthening communication with Kim and "by steadily leading the relations of friendship and cooperation between the two countries to a new stage," KCNA said.
https://archive.vn/9jS6u#selection-301.0-317.256
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 No.386112

why would he die on this hill?
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 No.386364

>>386112

People seem to be responding pretty positively to it, so good news there.
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 No.386510

>>369301
Damn, she has gotten plastic surgery? Bitch trying to look more western by the day.
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 No.386769

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So what's the deal with the Ryugyong Hotel? It's kind of a big deal of a landmark in Pyongyang, and western media always harps on about how it's only complete on the outside, but on the inside its a total skeleton. Which is why I ask, what's the real scoop? Is the hotel finished? What's planned for it? Have people stayed in it, and if so what's it like?
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 No.386843

>>386769
They started it just before the collapse of the USSR. If they had hindsight they'd suddenly lose their main trade partner and supplier of fuel which would result in a near-total collapse of their state sector economy (it still hasn't recovered today from its peak in 1990), a long-term famine and have to deal with the prospect they may soon be invaded by USA, ROK and Japan if they don't make a nuclear deterrent, they obviously wouldn't have built an overambitious skyscraper hotel meant to impress tourists mainly from the USSR, Eastern Bloc, Yugoslavia, China and neutral countries.
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 No.386880

>>386843
Damn shame, I kinda hoped they had managed to open something in it. I have heard that they use it for projections at least, so that's kinda cool.

Speaking of hotels and touring and such, what hotels in Pyongyang are recommended? And what tour groups? I've been long thinking of one day taking a tour there with some friends of mine or maybe a leftypol dedicated group, but it's hard to know what to use. I know the Koryogroup seems to be the most popular, but apparently the Korean Friendship Association offers tours as well.
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 No.387498

>>386843

The DPRK dkes nit release any official compleye economic statistics, all figures you find on the internet are south korean central bank fabrication.

Ergo, there is no way to know how the economy is doing since at least 1975, if not in the mid 60s.

My guess is it has recovered and surpassed whatever level it was in 1989 in real gdp per capita terms, but its just a guess like everybody else. I also guess that the structure of the output has shifted a bit towards services and some raw materials.
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 No.387522

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>>386769
The hotel isn't structurally sound so it will never be completed, the LED exterior is pretty cool though.
All in all it's an eyesore but probably not worth the effort to tear down either
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 No.387597

>>387522
I dont think it's an eyesore at all, if anything I wish there were more cool ass buildings like that. It's just a damn shame that it's going to waste.
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 No.391257

>>387522
Why do you think it is structurally unsound? I never heard that before.
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 No.391362

>>391257
It was left with its insides exposed to the elements for years during the last economic crises.
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 No.393910

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Kim visiting the grave of Mao Anying (Mao's oldest son) who was killed in a US airstrike while serving in the PLA during the korean war in 1950.
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 No.393916

>>393910
Song about Mao Anying by Unhasu Orchestra in both Korean and Chinese
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 No.399194

Anti-raid bump
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 No.401074

Heh
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 No.401399

Caught between North and South Korea
https://iteroni.com/watch?v=arEhOHpXC9Q
A documentary about a DPRK citizen whom the South deny going back to her homeland. Check it, DW takes down some documentary by who knows what criteria.
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 No.404763

N.K. leader pays respects to fallen soldiers to mark anniversary of Korean War armistice
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210727001600325

>North Korean leader Kim Jong-un visited a cemetery to pay respects to the soldiers killed during the 1950-53 Korean War to commemorate the armistice that ended the fighting in the war, a state broadcaster reported Tuesday.


> The Korean War ended in the armistice signed July 27, 1953, leaving South and North Korea technically in a state of war. The North called the war the Fatherland Liberation War and designated the armistice signing date as Victory Day.


> Kim visited the Fatherland Liberation War Martyr's Cemetery in Pyongyang at midnight Monday to mark the 68th anniversary of the Korean War armistice, according to the North's state Korean Central Broadcasting Station.


> The Rodong Sinmun, an organ of the ruling Workers' Party, said that Kim delivered food, medicine and other gifts to the war veterans to mark the anniversary.
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 No.404906

>>386364
But it's just a fact that N Korea isn't worth trying to justify bc of how it's universally criticized, Hakim might need some normal pills
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 No.404984

>>404906

I have the same premise as you do, but my conclusion is the opposite one: Because the DPRK is demonized, as a socialist country, we must defend it against outrageous slander and attacks.

One doesn't in any way need to idealize it to do so (it has after all, a representative political system and a kosyginreformlite type economy).
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 No.407547

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI4H7bkfX0I
Can someone identify the two lads in wheelchairs at 1:28 or have a higher quality version of this broadcast? the guy in the black suit looks suspiciously like Kim Yong-nam. Ri Myong-Su is surprisingly there as well wearing the army suit.
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 No.407563

>>404906
only cowards abandon their possitions by pressure.
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 No.407627

>>404906
All you need to do is to scratch the surface. You don't need to make any descriptive and definite claims about the DPRK to at least invoke massive scepticism when you easily dismantle the ridiculous propaganda against it.
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 No.408945

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass, whats the deal with the border?

I've grown to appreciate the DPRK more and more due to the countless debunks of really stupid shit and have just generally read up on more. As much as i'm beginning to like the nation more, the border shit is always stuck up on me. Is there any reason that the DPRK is so harmful to people trying to leave the nation? Is it just a bad side we have to accept? or is it all just shitty western propaganda lol.

Hopefully I dont get called a glowie for a question like this lmao.
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 No.408958

>>408945
It's a military ceasefire line. The south also shoots people who try to escape across it.
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia/south-korean-military-defends-shooting-defector
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 No.408966

>>408958
OHH. makes a lot of sense lol. thank you
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 No.409510

>>408945
both sides try to shoot anyone who runs away, for often the same security reasons; they could be spies or have sensitive information to pass to the enemy.
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 No.409515

>>408966
Gotta remember, they still are at war with one another, they are in high alert of anyone that tries to cross to the other side.
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 No.410493

Did you uyghas know about this? Just learned about this event only a few days ago, insane shit tbh
>On August 18, 1976, a group of five Korean Service Corps (KSC) personnel escorted by a UNC security team consisting of Captain Arthur Bonifas, his South Korean Army counterpart, Captain Kim, the platoon leader of the current platoon in the area (First Lieutenant Mark Barrett), and 11 enlisted personnel, both American and South Korean,[3] went into the JSA to prune the tree.

>The two captains did not wear sidearms, as members of the Joint Security Area were limited to five armed officers and 30 armed enlisted personnel at a time. However, there were mattocks in the back of the 2+1⁄2-ton truck. The KSC workers had the axes that they brought to prune the tree branches.


>After the pruning began, about 15 North Korean soldiers appeared, commanded by Senior Lieutenant Pak Chul, whom the UNC soldiers had nicknamed "Lieutenant Bulldog" because of a history of confrontations.[4] Pak and his subordinates appeared to observe the pruning without concern for approximately 15 minutes. Then, he abruptly told the UNC to cease the activity and stated that the tree could not be pruned.[2] Captain Bonifas ordered the detail to continue and turned his back on the North Koreans.


>After being ignored by Bonifas, Pak sent a runner across the Bridge of No Return. Within minutes, a North Korean guard truck crossed the bridge and approximately 20 more North Korean guards disembarked carrying crowbars and clubs. Pak again demanded that the pruning cease. When Bonifas again turned his back on him, Pak removed his watch, carefully wrapped it in a handkerchief, placed it in his pocket, and shouted, "Kill the bastards!"[5][6] Using axes dropped by the tree pruners, the KPA forces attacked both US soldiers, Bonifas and Barrett, and wounded all but one of the UNC guards.[7]

They got btfo'd hard
>Bonifas was knocked to the ground by Pak and then bludgeoned to death by at least five North Koreans, and Barrett jumped over a low wall that led past a 4.5-metre (15 ft) deep tree-filled depression just across the road from the tree. The depression was not visible from the road because of the dense grass and small trees. The entire fight lasted for only 20 to 30 seconds before the UNC force dispersed the North Korean guards and placed Bonifas's body in their truck.[6] There was no sign of Barrett, and the two UNC guards at OP No. 5 could not see him.

>The UNC force observed the North Korean guards at KPA No. 8 along the UNC emergency egress road exhibiting strange behavior in that one guard would take an axe and go down into the depression for a couple of minutes and then come back and hand the axe to another guard, who would repeat the action.[1] That went on for approximately 90 minutes until the UNC guards at OP No. 5 were informed that Barrett was missing, when they informed their superiors about the KPA activity in the depression. A search-and-rescue squad was quickly dispatched and found that Barrett had been attacked with the axe by the North Koreans.[1] Barrett was recovered and transported to a hospital in Seoul via an aid station at Camp Greaves, but he died on the journey.


Absolute sigma males destroyed those Americans lmao
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 No.410494

>>410493
Forgot the link if you want to read the whole thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_axe_murder_incident
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 No.411255

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 No.411296

>>404984
I think I'm in the same mindset as Laibach (maybe). They performed in North Korea, which is not something that would be allowed to happen if they went there to "troll" them or something which is kinda how it was described by some media. I don't think that's true whatsoever.

I think the "joke" from their videos about North Korea is really at the West's expense. By contrast, an "ironic" satire of North Korea was the movie "The Interview" which ended with the main characters blowing up Kim Jong Un with a tank. And then some neocons tried to send DVD copies of the movie into the DPRK via balloon like that will convince people to overthrow their government. And that just tells you everything. The West will make jokes and treat the whole situation as a big farce, but underneath, the West is serious about destroying their country and killing their leader. And that's not a joke. So, the conclusion to draw from this is that the West is like a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Or seeing the DPRK as a "problem" to be solved, which makes you wonder whether North Koreans see themselves as a "problem."

They're human beings for Christ's sake.

Also if you've read interviews with the band about their visit there, it's very different. They don't endorse the political system, but they're not "against" it really. I think it's just not anyone's place to decide that except for the Korean people. And I think their videos from there poked a little hole in the Western ideology bubble and looking at the people and showing their humanity (instead of dehumanizing them as "brainwashed automatons" or whatever). This is what they told Rolling Stone:

>Our first impression of the country was, “This is just like we expected… but it is somehow completely different.” A few days later, we were thinking about an option to be able to “live and stay there to reach the higher wisdom in ourselves.” The country may be poor and isolated, with a heavily oppressive political system, but the people are fantastic and they seem to possess the precious wisdom that we don’t.


[…]

>The general people of Korea are definitely the brightest jewel in the country. We couldn’t find any cynicism, sarcasm, irony, vulgarity and other “Western characteristics” in their eyes, on their faces and in their behavior. It was nothing but sincere modesty, kindness, proudness and respect. There was no military parade for the 70th Anniversary of Freedom, only people dancing gracefully instead everywhere on the streets and parks of Pyongyang.


[…]

>What misconceptions don’t [the West] have? It’s a country everybody in the West loves to hate, but most of the tabloid stories about the DPRK are utterly false: They don’t eat their own children, they don’t throw people to dogs and they don’t starve because of a lack of food. Americans in North Korea are, for instance, not hated at all, but welcomed. And Koreans do not equate the American people with U.S. governmental policy. Entering North Korea is not that difficult at all. As a matter of fact, it is generally easier than entering U.S.


>Pyongyang, which was completely bombed and erased during the Korean war — of course by the American warheads — is today a beautiful, clean, well-kept and colorful city with impressive architecture and parks. North Koreans laugh, smile and joke a lot and people across the country are incredibly well and “dignifying” dressed. They learn foreign languages; children begin to learn English at the age of seven. Koreans are keen to open up to the outside world, but they want to do it slowly, on their own terms, and in a very different way than the Chinese.
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 No.411305

>>411296
>Honourable, Dead or Alive, When Following the Revolutionary Road is based on an aria from the classic North Korean revolutionary opera "Tell, O Forest"(1972), written and produced under the guidance of the Dear Leader Kim Jong Il. "Tell, O Forest" is one of the five famous revolutionary operas in the DPRK. It vividly represents the steel-strong faith and steadfast will of a revolutionary. The opera is highly regarded as a masterpiece of eternal value.

>Laibach’s re-interpretation was prepared for the 2015 Liberation Day concert in Ponghwa Theatre in Pyongyang, but deemed too “confusing” by the North Korean hosts and therefore struck from the concert repertoire.


>Includes an edit of a poem ‘Jutri gremo v napad’ (Tomorrow We'll Attack) by Slovenian partisan poet Vladimir Pavšič alias Matej Bor.
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 No.412911

>>412838
i'm not a fan of these new overdesigned uniforms for the commanders, and at the same perplexed how only the highest echelons received them and everyone else still has the old ones
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 No.412914

>>411305
Based. FAR MUCH QUALITY THAN DO KYUNGSOO'S ROSE
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