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 No.388132[Last 50 Posts]

Chilebros what happened? /ourguy/ Jaudes lost the primaries for the presidential election. Is Apruebo Dignidad still based or are we fucked? What can we except from this other candidate? And how is the constitutional convention coming along? Let's just hope that nobody is preparing to launch a coup again…
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 No.388143

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>>388132
its ogre before it even started
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 No.388148

I mean he is but he is more of a Evo than a Maduro
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 No.388150

Just vote harder next time!
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 No.388166

A lot of people in them Latino countries are socdems, they champion large public institutions and extensive welfare but they’re brainwashed by libertarianism that make them weak to an authority that would revolutionize the nation.
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 No.388173

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Wasn't Jadue considered the frontrunner for the whole thing? Did porky rig the primaries?
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 No.388179

Electoralism, not even once.
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 No.388180

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>Legalized 2020-03-09
What are the odds?
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 No.388199

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Jadue seemed to make mistakes and gaffes like saying he was going to legalize hard drugs when pressed on his stance on cannabis. Media bias against communists played a part too.

Boric seems alright when he's holding up a shirt with some Pinochet guy with a bullet in his head, but he also comes from a privileged family and makes you wonder about that. I read his platform is extremely similar to Jadue, which generally aligns with the social demands of the entire Apruebo camp (Frente Amplio + Communist Party), but more digestible for independent and moderate voters. He agrees with 99% of what Jadue said, but then added a gender perspective, LGBT rights and regional integration in a country that's heavily centralized in Santiago.

The problem is the left-wing camp is highly fractious and prone to splitting.

But the right seems to have even worse problems. The social conservatives, the Pinochet people, have just collapsed. The leading right-wing candidate now in this cycle, Sichel (holding a knife) of "Chile Vamos" is a former Christian Democrat and a banker who is running as a socially-liberal centrist with a record terrible management at BancoEstado (Chile's state-owned bank). There's also a far-right candidate, Kast (also pictured) is this Opus Dei fash who left Chile Vamos because they weren't Pinochetist enough, so if he takes the far-right vote and the left stays together, that should open the path for Boric to win the presidency.
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 No.388221

>>388199
>The problem is the left-wing camp is highly fractious and prone to splitting.
FOR FUCKS SAKE
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 No.388223

>>388132
>Gabriel Borić Font
>of Croatian descent
go paesan
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 No.388224

What? I actually forgot. I thought they were next year kek
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 No.388406

Trot candidate. Not even once. Doomed to failure from the beginning.

Yes I'm still seething about his statements on the USSR and support of China while being such an annoying radlib on other controversial issues (like drugs).

Accion Proletaria only way forward. Stop this socdem crap.
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 No.388705

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Well it's quite possible Jadue would lose in a general election, too, which is something to keep in mind. Whatever you think about Boric (and also Castillo), they represent a leftward movement in Latin America, and that's a positive thing. Jadue is in the same coalition with Boric and has thrown his support behind him.
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 No.388726

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PC fucked up by forming an alliance with liberals, now their votes are going to Boric after he backstabbed them. Jadue fucked up the latest weeks/months by showing his power level (not much really, which should tell you about the state of Chile) too early.
Remember only 3 million people voted and absolutely nobody cheered in the streets when Boric won except for his own party. The country at large is still disillusioned with electoral politics and mostly only PMCs and the bourgeoisie went to vote.
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 No.388727

>>388705
>y será hermoso
Insert a Soyjak here.
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 No.388728

>>388705
Broic's party is part of the Socialist International. It's over.
If I've learned anything about that international my estimation about a win with him in November would entail increased funding for non-binary curriculum reform and support "anti-authoritarian regime" change abroad while retweeting AOC on Twitter.
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 No.388730

>>388406
Dude if Jadue lost Artés has like x100 less chances of winning, and we both know it. The only good thing is that he may get more votes than the prior elections and make the PC(AP) more known, but that's it.
Also, PCCh and PC(AP) are both dengist, the latter don't care about any revisionism outside of Chile lol
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 No.388747

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>>388199
>Boric seems alright when he's holding up a shirt with some Pinochet guy with a bullet in his head
lol my man, you really need to start separating old Boric who even called himself an anarchist on newspapers from the new Boric (2019 onwards) who gave his signature to the Acuerdo Por La Paz (the agreement that saved Piñera's ass in 2019), played a big part in approving a law that gave police even more means to detain people during the riots (suspecting them was enough, to give you an idea. and then this government [and Boric!] has the gall to talk shit about Cuba) and more recently gave his back to the same people he helped put in jail during these elections.

Seriously, fuck Boric, fuck Frente Amplio, fuck progres and most of all, fuck cuicos.
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 No.388751

>>388148
>he is more of a Evo than a Maduro
So not retarded?
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 No.388759

electoralism btfo once again
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 No.388760

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>Social-Convergence.
<Part of the 'Progressive Internationale' (See: '''''Socialist'''''' International 2.0)
<Elevating environmental and social-issues above the primary contradiction.
So where did that bring you electoraloids?. back to me.
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 No.388769

>>388730
>Also, PCCh and PC(AP) are both dengist, the latter don't care about any revisionism outside of Chile lol
Source? PC(AP) is literally a Hoxhaist anti-revisionist party.
I know PCCh is.
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 No.388772

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>>388760
Yep. Those issues are important too but both Jadue and Boric are clearly progressives, but only Jadue put a lot more emphasis on the class aspect.
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 No.388797

>>388769
>PC(AP) is literally a Hoxhaist anti-revisionist party.
HAHAHAH no, i know a lot of members and they fucking hate hoxhaism (they call it neo-trotskysm) and praise Deng, Evo Morales, Maduro, modern Vietnam, etc. The difference is that PCCh just ignores international stuff most of the time.
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 No.388827

>>388797
Wtf so it's a dying party is what you're saying? Why didn't they just go to the modern revisionist party if that's what they believe instead of wrecking a principled party? Or was this their intention? The old guard seems serious, why are they letting this happen?
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 No.388831

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>>388760
To a group that claimed to have been military defeat in 2011 in an interview and called for an amnesty?
Hum
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 No.388834

Is this what depression feels like?
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 No.388846

>>388827
Well idk, there are other main "differences" between the both parties like PCCh siding with the center-left in the past and their "jrushchovism", but those are silly in my opinion, normies don't care about that shit. They would work much better as an united party with factions.
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 No.388911

>>388797
>i know a lot of members and they fucking hate hoxhaism (they call it neo-trotskysm)
Hahaha what the fuck.
>and praise Deng, Evo Morales, Maduro, modern Vietnam, etc.
This I don’t get. Do Western leftists (LatAms included) not understand that for Dengism (or red social democracy) to exist, there has to be a Marxist - Leninist Revolution before it to establish the proper base for it to turn back into liberalization? Dengism can’t be made through electoralism period.
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 No.389143

>>388846
It appears you're partially responsible for the incompetence of your national communist movement. Embarrassing.
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 No.389152

>>389143
Why? I'm not a member of any organization.
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 No.389154

>>388150
vooting is actual praxis in the LatAm context because you are literally choosing between 'USA puppet' and 'lefty socdem'.
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 No.389157

B-but we won Peru bois.

LAPICITOOOOOO
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 No.389170

Fellas, while this is a sobering reminder that electoralism doesn't (and shouldn't be expected to) always work, this doesn't mean we ought to lose hope.

There are plenty of left orgs in Chile that do good work and may rise to the occaison. Besides, we have Bolivia and Peru to be optimistic about. Don't give in to despair, not when things are starting to look up for the rest of LatAm.
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 No.389178

>>389170
Don't forget Brazil next year, Lula's going to rip Bozo (and the right) a new asshole.

I hope so
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 No.389200

>>389170
The left in Chile is pretty big, although divided af. If all the "radical" left dialogue (including PCCh) it would be a great step forward, but that'll be for another election.
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 No.389203

Where does this put him?
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 No.389205

Vote red, no matter who.
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 No.389206

>>388132
he lost to a fucking polface
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 No.389208

Can Boric be pushed oeft if he wins?
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 No.389218

>>389208
I don't think so, he's the chilean version of Pablo Iglesias. He still would be the most "progressive" president in the post-pinochet era, so it's something, but do not expect any anti-imperialism.
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 No.389222

>>389203
To expand on this, what is the purpose of these primaries? Is this for electing a leader of a left-wing coalition?
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 No.389246

>>388726
Frente Amplio are not liberals whatsoever, all their parties are democratic socialists. There was a social-liberal party before in the alliance but they left and are irrelevant.
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 No.389251

>>388747
> gave his signature to the Acuerdo Por La Paz (the agreement that saved Piñera's ass in 2019)
…and gave us a constitutional reform
> played a big part in approving a law that gave police even more means to detain people during the riots
that's simply a lie because as a deputee he voted against all articles except for looting
> more recently gave his back to the same people he helped put in jail during these elections
what?
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 No.389259

>>388772
>only Jadue put a lot more emphasis on the class aspect
guess what? it doesn't resonate in Chile that much nowadays, simply "tax the rich, bring national wealth to people" would do better

communists that don't understand it and keep accenting on the class struggle on TV are bound to lose elections (see Jadue)
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 No.389266

>>388132
The guy who won is also a leftist so I don't see the problem here
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 No.389267

>>389266 (me)
Whoops, I'm not OP
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 No.389269

>>389259
>Jadue lost because he mentioned class struggle
the 2019 protests were 100% class struggle just with other words, tf are you talking about? and he lost by all Kast voters going for Boric just to take him out, among other reasons.
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 No.389288

>>389274
What do you mean? Everything I can glean from the Wikipedia articles about Boric, his party, and his political alliance suggests that he is a leftist. Or is he secretly a CIA agent trying to steal votes from the "real left".
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 No.389314

>>389288
"Left" and "right" as concepts has been obsolete for around 200 years. Use descriptions that actually mean something definite, like 'anti-capitalist', 'liberal', 'egalitarian', 'pro-worker' or 'progressive'.
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 No.389459

>>389269
Not that guy, but you really shouldn't dismiss such worries about loaded terms. Even when people fully agree with the ideas, the name of that idea can still be rejected by them because porky media literally conditions people to do so. If you took an orthodox ML part program and replaced the buzzterms with an internally consistent new terminology, I 100% guarantee it would be more popular. How much more popular is something which can only be known if this is ever tried, but it would increase, no doubts about it..
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 No.389525

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VALLEJO 2026
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 No.389532

>>389525
I would vote for her with my dick
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 No.389821

>>389288
Read the thread maybe?
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 No.389824

>>389251
>…and gave us a constitutional reform
Are you fucking serious? It's the protests what forced politicians to do a (severely cucked) constitutional reform.

>that's simply a lie because as a deputee he voted against all articles except for looting

If he and his party had rejected the project in the first place he wouldn't have had to vote against specific articles that ended up passing anyway, retard.

>what?

He said he isn't going to do anything at all about the people put in jail during the protests even though he wouldn't even be here without them.

lol I didn't expect for pro-Boric PMCs to post on /leftypol/.
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 No.389837

>>389251
you realize we already have laws against looting and those laws only gave even more ammo both figuratively and literally to the police you useful idiot
detencion por sospecha came back thanks to these slimy bastards and youre here defending them because you think theyre leftist, now weve got hundreds of people put in jail just for happening to be there during the riots

>>389246
>they arent liberals, they call themselves demsocs!!!!!!!
dense motherfucker
youre forgetting this is a party lead by snakes without actual convictions that are constantly doing pacts and "dialogue" with the center-right and right
boric says something one year and the complete opposite the next
frente amplio is going to end up being ppd 2.0
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 No.390036

>>389837
> detencion por sospecha came back thanks to these slimy bastards
How? It was in an older law Nº19.567.

>weve got hundreds of people put in jail

Uh, proofs? There are lots of people in jail for looting which is not cool either but again, Boric voted against all the other articles of the ley.

> youre forgetting this is a party lead by snakes without actual convictions that are constantly doing pacts and "dialogue" with the center-right and right

Ah, "let's have no dialog and achieve nothing" ultron detected. It's not the 70s, PCCh does not have armed MIR on the grounds confiscating lands from landowners.

They and FA together didn't have even 20% in the congress in 2019, but at the same time right-wingers painted them as the force behind the protests and agreed to have some dialogue. Boric risked his political career while going against even FA purists who slammed him for the dialog, and got us a constitutional referendum that lead to the 78% victory that fueled a huge leftist wave in the constitutional assembly.

Literally everything he did so far was more beneficial than PCCh's shit-flinging for decades WHILE COLLABORATING WITH CONCENTRA. Somehow PCCh are saints now despite orbiting the establishment's rule for all those years.
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 No.390047

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 No.390061

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>>389459
This, Jadue is stuck in the 70s and can't package his shit well in the age of marketing. When asked about legalizing heavy drugs, he just said he would do it later, including crack, and got a huge backlash from people who are brainwashed by the war on drugs narrative.

He could start that we need to do it like Switzerland and Portugal where users can come to the government facilities to get a dose, but at the same time are getting treatment and psychological support. Then that also decriminalizing would help against the narcos and then some decades later we can talk about legalizaiton to get rid of the organized crime altogether, but the health of addicts and returning them to families is the primary goal.

Instead he sperged it "YAH, LEGALIZE CRACK IN A LATER PHASE" like a complete moron during debates, assuming that the general population would understand all the process in-between.

He is absolutely not in touch with the voters' moods and even if elected would get him Allende'd in no time for being such a fool with his mouth. Sure, he appeals to the folks here who are also stuck in the 70s if not 30s, but he can't rule as a socialist leader because it requires walking a very fine line between fighting for your goals and getting destroyed by capital's propaganda. Again, he has no dual power to rely on.
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 No.390258

>>390061
I don't see how he's "stuck in the 70s", he seemed a very "updated" type of communist. Even my normie lib friends (mostly women) voted for him.
>but he can't rule as a socialist leader because it requires walking a very fine line between fighting for your goals and getting destroyed by capital's propaganda. Again, he has no dual power to rely on.
Ironically you talk like we are in 70s Chile, or modern Peru. Of course he would get attacked by porky media if elected, but a military coup isn't really an option anymore (see how the military acted in estallido). Besides, we're probably getting a leftist parlament so the last thing you said doesn't make sense.

Btw, i agree he sucked on debates and the drugs question.
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 No.390400

>>389824
>Are you fucking serious? It's the protests what forced politicians to do a (severely cucked) constitutional reform.
…so the protests were achieving something, and he tried to secure and formalize at least a part of what was achieved?

>If he and his party had rejected the project in the first place he wouldn't have had to vote against specific articles that ended up passing anyway, retard.

Irrelevant, there's actually no people jailed because of that law (known as Anti-Barricade Law) because it's actually very weak. They used the State Security Law to jail them.

>He said he isn't going to do anything at all about the people put in jail during the protests even though he wouldn't even be here without them.

I'm quite sure he said that of looters only, which I still don't agree with, but it's not the same.
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 No.390424

>>390258
>I don't see how he's "stuck in the 70s", he seemed a very "updated" type of communist. Even my normie lib friends (mostly women) voted for him.
He totally fucked up with attacking PYMEs (small companies) which aren't limited to petty borgs – lots of people survive in Chile by running tiny businesses.

He keeps taking the class struggle angle in his speeches which is just not popular anymore as a concept, no matter how we may like it in the leftist circles.

While the Chilean realities are many times more leftist than the burger realities, I suggest checking Bernie Sanders on FOX News in Feb 2020 or so. While being a succdem, he's a fucking genius at packaging socialist programs into burger-digestable wording. He literally got people in the FOX audience cheering for him.

Borič is not that energetic and well-spoken in comparison but he's much better in appealing to the average voter. Since we're trying to win in pure electoralism, it's more important than 100% ideological purity and supporting Venezuela against Western imperialism (which honestly does not matter at all in Chile, we are nobody on the international playing field).
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 No.390433

>>390258
>Of course he would get attacked by porky media if elected, but a military coup isn't really an option anymore (see how the military acted in estallido). Besides, we're probably getting a leftist parlament so the last thing you said doesn't make sense.
Forgot to address this one: I don't expect a coup with Jadue, but insane capital shenanigans and capital flight in general multiplied by 24/7 propaganda attacks. Remember how they kneecapped even succdem Bachelet?
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 No.390455

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 No.390464

>>390455
He's not an actual commie isn't it? The party is.
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 No.390523

Give it to me straight bro's, how bad is the situation?
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 No.390533

>>390523
A moderate leftist won instead of a communist.

The right is still perpetually BTFO.
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 No.390536

>>390533
>>390523
Yeah also the constitutional convention is way more important than the presidency.
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 No.390587

Boric is the new Bachelet #SAD
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 No.390636

>>390533
He’s much less moderate than Partido Socialista whose president Michelle Bachelet was considered “left”.

Also this >>390536 – by the end of his term Chile may become a semi presidential or parliamentary republic.
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 No.391169

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>>390533
>The right is still perpetually BTFO.
I hope so, but like it's been stated ITT Boric has no qualms with forging alliances with the right.
Also I fear he won't win in november and we'll get another fucking banker as president. Some parties who signed the pact to support the liberals are already turning back on it.
Despite all his faults Jadue really was Chile's best shot these elections.
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 No.391181

>>388199
>Kast (also pictured) is this Opus Dei fash who left Chile Vamos because they weren't Pinochetist enough

holy kek
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 No.391198

>>391169
>I hope so, but like it's been stated ITT Boric has no qualms with forging alliances with the right.
< sitting at the table with the right for getting an all-party agreement to write a new constitution is "allying"
Jadueboos are sort of hysterical ngl

Seriously, I'm not a Boric stan, but the insane purism among the Chilean left is tiresome. Both Boric and Jadue are succdems and bashing one for beings slightly more diplomatic is stupid.

At the moment, Chile is becoming Bolivia-tier leftist, time to fucking rejoice. We couldn't even dream of this 3 years ago.
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 No.391206

>>391198
>At the moment, Chile is becoming Bolivia-tier leftist
I really do hope so.
And I agree with your assessment of Jadue. Boric is still annoying but shit could be worse.

I'm still a bit worried the fascist elements will pull something.
Are there some left-wing militias operating clandestinely that you're aware of (as in, that's kinda common knowledge in Chile)? I hope so personally.
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 No.391215

Why are there so many parties in Chile? This is like Netherlands-tier.
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 No.391217

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>>391206
>Are there some left-wing militias operating clandestinely that you're aware of (as in, that's kinda common knowledge in Chile)? I hope so personally.
Nothing since the last MIR members were killed/jailed in the 80s-90s. Mostly anarchist Primera Línea was fighting police for months during the 2019 protests.

At the same time, the best thing rightoid could organize was stealing the idea of Yellow Jackets from France and LARP'ing in their rich communes. There were some Gadsden flags flying, so you can imagine the quality of the protest.

And the army is really reluctant to get involved. When Piñera called a curfew in 2019 and said "we're in war with a powerful enemy", the general replied "I'm not at war with anyone, I'm a happy man". Back then, young people also gave zero fucks about the army and continued fighting because they are not traumatized by growing during the dictatorship.
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 No.391218

>>391198
>Chile is becoming Bolivia-tier leftist
more like Argentina-tier if Boric wins
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 No.391229

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>>391206
>Are there some left-wing militias operating clandestinely that you're aware of (as in, that's kinda common knowledge in Chile)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinadora_Arauco-Malleco
Not "chilean" per se, it's an indigenous self-defense and separatist group, so they operate only in some southern provinces.
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 No.391239

>>391217
>>391229
Ok good to hear. Presumably one could infer that there's also a lot going on underneath the surface that isn't being detected due to good OPSEC if these examples are the above-surface examples.
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 No.391241

>>389203
>>389222
please answer
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 No.391244

>>391198
>>391218
3, 2, 1: Debate!
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 No.391252

>>391244
Argentina has no large socialist parties and Peronism is a populist insanity. Even Peru has better chances now despite the decades of fash rule.

> Is there any political figure in any country weirder than Juan Domingo Peron in Argentina?


> Peron, basically, nationalized the corporations and corporatised the unions. He was also friendly towards fascist leaders but he was so friends with Che Guevara (!!!). Also, his wife Eva was the leader behind the women's vote movement. The US disliked Peron because he decided to keep Argentina neutral during WW2 so they decide to coup him out.


> Then after being 20 years in exile, he gets elected for a third term. But at that point there were left-wing and right-wing guerrillas in Argentina, both claiming to be peronists, because he drew support from basically every side of the Political spectrum. Peron dies shortly after being elected.


> So the CIA comes again, and installs Videla, a fascist mass-murderer who decides to kill all left-wing peronists.


> The military junta collapses after the Falklands War, so peronism turns into a conservative and extremely neoliberal party. The opposition (the Unión Cívica Radical) is basically the same thing, the only good thing they did was putting Videla and the rest of the military junta in prison. This eventually leads to the 2001 crisis which was the worst in our country's history.


> Then, in 2003, another peronist called Nestor Kirchner and his wife Cristina Kirchner say whatever shit we did in the 90s was not Real Peronism™ and push for a big welfare state. They become friends with other left-wing Latin American politicians such as Hugo Chavez, Lula Da Silva, Evo Morales, etc. The peronist party divides itself between the politicians who like Cristina…and the ones who don't. The last one are led by Massa, who basically doesn't have any program at all.


> In 2015, they get kicked out by non-peronist Mauricio Macri after the last 4 years of Cristina were pretty bad, who is a FAGGOT that sells the country to the IMF, making poverty and inflation rise by a lot in just 4 years.


> So the peronist party is now back in power after Massa and Cristina decided to get over their differences to defeat Macri. The president is Alberto Fernández, who is really just a progressive social-democrat.


> What the fuck am I supposed to make out of this?
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 No.391266

>>391198
>muh purism
>we need to unite the left!! (while also collaborating with the right)
You dropped your rose, faggot. I don't like Jadue either, the guy was amarillento as fuck but Boric and his gay ass party is even worse.

FA just today formed an alliance with the right to get Alvez elected as president of the regulations commission (no issue with her specifically though) instead of Llanquileo and voted against two or three leftist women that were going to get other positions in the same deal. All talk backstabbing snakes with literally no convictions, as it's usual with liberals.

I refuse to believe there's more than one Chilean PMC retard posting repeatedly in favor of Boric on /leftypol/, even being so blind to resort to rhetoric to say FA didn't achsually vote in favor of giving the police more resources during the estallido.

No other leftoid literally gave his signature to help Piñera's ass during . And then these FAGGOTS have the gall to claim oh holy Boric is the one who gave us a new constitution instead of all the people who lost their eyes or are even in jail (partly thanks to Boric, too). Seriously, fuck you.

If Boric's actions during the 2019 riots are anything to go by then if he wins things are going to be more of the fucking same.
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 No.391267

>>389203
>>389222
>>391241
The primaries were for the "extreme" left (communist party + Frente Amplio which is an alliance of democratic socialist new left) and for all the right except the complete fash (JA Kast's Republican party).

There are also old left: Partido Socialista that had 2-term president Michelle Bachelet and Partido Por Democracia that had Ricardo Lagos. Based Jadue banned PS from participating in the new left primaries because PS has grown into the establishment and now are basically neolibs with some welfare programs. All young voters despise the old left coalition too (they ruled the country since the late 90s up to 2017 and have barely changed Pinochet's system).

The possible candidates for general elections in November:
– Gabriel Boric (/ourguy/ whatever purist wreckers tell you)
– Paula Narváez (center-"left" from Partido Socialista)
– Yasna Provoste (centrist from the Democracia Cristiana)
– Sebastian Sichel (the candidate from united rightoids)
– JA Kast (insane Evanglical fash, Chilean Bolsonaro but with single-digit support)
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 No.391280

>>391267
>old left
PS has been filled to the brim with literal neoliberals after Pinochet was taken out… Bachelet was Piñera with a smiley face, for some reason nobody remembers her sending police troops to curb every single riot just like the current president has done.
Holy fuck some of you really need to stop only focusing on labels and start actually looking at the actions these parties take.

>purist wreckers

Oh you're that one faggot. No wonder you're so fucking retarded lmfao, you think the guys with Socialist in the name are leftist despite having a long history of collaborating with both the right and big corporations.
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 No.391284

>>391266
>FA
is a fuckton of people but Boric is decent enough for a transitional lefty president.

> I refuse to believe there's more than one Chilean PMC retard

I'm not PMC lol, just tired of the hysterical Gamba-tier purism that has been leading the country nowhere before 2019.

> FA didn't achsually vote in favor of giving the police more resources during the estallido.

Proofs?

> No other leftoid literally gave his signature to help Piñera's ass during

And what would have changed if they not saved Piñera's ass? "Renuncia Piñera" aaaand what? Chadwick ruling?

There were no material conditions for anything revolutionary, we would end as Ukraine at best – no pres, no political force to fill the vacuum, chaos and rightoids saying TOLD YA! with congress being the same shitheads as always.

What Boric did was opening the most productive venue since 1970 in the end and FA themselves backstabbed him for not being pure enough and talking to the UDI members.
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 No.391288

>>391284
>Gamba-tier purism
Ah yes, Gamba, well known purists, the ones who are promoting fucking Yasna Provoste while calling everyone who doesn't agree with their PPD-tier shit ultrones (does this remind you of anything? :^) ).

I didn't even bother reading the rest, you're dumb as a mule.
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 No.391291

>>391280
>despite having a long history of collaborating with … big corporations
Proofs that Boric or anyone currently present at FA did that?

>>391288
Sure, (You) me back when your views bring anything material to the table.
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 No.391300

>>391284

saying material conditions wont make you seem smart or right, sorry my dude

>And what would have changed if they not saved Piñera's ass?


my man did your tiny little brain simply memoryhole the whole protests that were asking him to leave

>Proofs?


lol…

everyone cant shut up about boric ignoring frente amplio and signing the """agreement for peace""" himself that pinera and his team concocted behind the curtains, also boric and jackson fuckin cried crocodile tears on a video apologizing for fucking up and letting cops get more funding and the ability to detain people under suspect whatever its called in english, other posters have already talked about this several times in this thread…

thanks to this radlib youre vehemently defending without actually knowing shit many protesters are in jail now

>FA themselves backstabbed him


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what

gonna assume youre a glowie, no one can be this dumb tbh, maybe pretending to be retarded at best
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 No.391306

>>391291
Get fucked PMC.
https://www.eldesconcierto.cl/nacional/2020/01/14/frente-amplio-anuncio-que-ira-al-tc-si-se-despacha-la-ley-antibarricadas.html
https://www.eldinamo.cl/nacional/2019/12/05/gabriel-boric-autocritica-ley-antisaqueos/

They let this happen and then went "whoopsie we didn't mean to do that! :((((((((" and tried to save face.
This is the faggot whose cock you keep riding. You keep whining about muh purists but you're worse, a radlib and a doomerist.

>El diputado frenteamplista aseguró que lo que buscaban "era mandar una señal clara en contra de los saqueos", pero "comunicacionalmente eso no se logró".

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good to see his fans are as retarded as he is.

Not even gonna bump this shit anymore, have fun spreading blatant lies or resorting to rhetoric to defend this cop-lover piece of shit. Can't even call him a reformist, that would be too much for him.
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 No.391311

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>this thread
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 No.391312

>>391306
Adding to this, we already have laws against fucking riots, duh. There was literally NO reason to approve this and they played right into right-wingers' hands, either knowingly or not. The result? Hundreds if not thousands of people detained without even a fair trial just because a cop happened to be there in a bad mood.
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 No.391321

Remember Bachelet and her team are at the UN right now grifting to get Venezuela, Nicaragua and cuba bombed and neoliberalized while defending Colombian and Brazilian neofascism
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 No.391324

>>391300
>my man did your tiny little brain simply memoryhole the whole protests that were asking him to leave
And then what? I put Ukraine as example – the president left, nothing changed.

>>391306
I quoted specifically big corps, I'm well aware of the anti-barricade law and they voted only for anti-looting part. I've already written about it earlier in the thread and don't see it as a huge problem, especially after Boric said it was a mistake.

> doomerist

You are saying things will go bad with Boric and I am a "doomerist"? Okay.

>>391312
> Hundreds if not thousands of people detained without even a fair trial just because a cop happened to be there in a bad mood.
Someone has already said earlier that they didn't use this law for that.

Too many accusations, too little proofs. I don't care honestly, I'm glad things are going as they are now.
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 No.391328

>>391311
this sort of stupid shit art is genuinely some of the dumbest, legitimately cringiest stuff on the entire internet.
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 No.391337

>>391324

Boric seems pretty good honestly. How are his economic views? Does he support legal weed?
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 No.391369

>>391337
Tax the super-rich and upper middle class, tax the mining companies, tax the diesel fuel, crack down on the tax loopholes to pay for all the social goods like worker protection and healthcare (the current public healthcare is efficient but extremely underfunded).

Get more state role in everything: the current constitution made by Pinochet declares a "subsidiary" state where government can't do stuff where corporations can. The new one should allow more action.

You can google-translate the overview on page 15 here:
https://boricpresidente.cl/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Programa_Completo.pdf
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 No.391373

>>391337
Weed is already de-facto legal, my small city has like a dozen of growshops that sell everything you need for growing. The law permitting medical use passed but has been hanging in the senate for some years because they need to finish various regulations for that.
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 No.391396

>>388199
>There's also a far-right candidate, Kast (also pictured)
Which one is he?
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 No.391411

>>391373

How expensive is the process?
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 No.391476

>>391411
Growing? The main costs are a tent and a UV lamp, depending on where and what you buy should be somewhere between $200 and $350.
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 No.391492

I'm not Chilean but just vote for Boric you idiots
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 No.391496

>>391492
Of course, the other option would be voting for the right and that's a lolnope.
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 No.391603

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 No.391875

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 No.392903

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what's the closest thing to a strasserist party here in Chile, I am seriosly asking
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 No.392925

>>392903
I don't know about parties in Chile but Strasserism seems pretty similar to Juche in some of it's ideas of self reliance and isolation. I guess you want Chile to go to absolute shit, huh?
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 No.392939

>>392903
Círculo Patriótico maybe? but they're duginists and not a party.
https://praxispatria.cl/
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 No.392951

>>392925
Strasser wanted to form an early European union , he even praised Kalergi. Self reliance my ass
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 No.393207

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>>388132
Artés was already warning us about how phony Frente Amplio is and that Boric glows in the dark years ago.

Warning: dangerously based.
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 No.397699

Support your local Rodriguist Colective. Electoralism will lead us to failure again.

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