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 No.356420[View All]

I have often heard it said that the FBI took over Communist Party USA back during the Cold War, and that the organization is now used as a honeypot to trap socialists. Is this true?
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 No.376494

>>376487
for communists to take power we need to leave the splits of the twentieth and nineteenth century behind. Anarchism, Trotskyism, Marxist-Leninism, and Maoism are all very meaningless terms, why should we be divided about the taxonomy of a state that died thirty years ago?
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 No.376501

>>376494
I would like to see a united movement toward civilian legislation and sortition. What sect could possibly disagree with that?
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 No.376659

>>376494
Based and wholesome. We must heal and come together unironically. I see so much sectarianism and shit flinging, and it has actually proved not to be constructive whatsoever.
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 No.376824

>>357224
Literal low IQ /pol/ tier posting, good thing the mods don't even ban these vermin anymore, people like these are the ones defending the rich and neoliberalism, the revolution will be a walk in the park.
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 No.376842

>>376390
>The man straight up makes shit up about American history to appeal to a white guilt narrative
Like what, exactly
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 No.377405

>>376842
WSWS has a good critique of his shoddy history in his most recent book:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/03/18/horn-m18.html

Ignore their usual sectarianism near the end of course.
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 No.377522

>>356464
while thats a questionable policy, renting out office space isnt nearly comparable to renting out homes
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 No.377792

>>376435
I've worked with libs and socdems outside the party, but everyone I know in the party is a hardcore ML. Maybe you could email some of these "socdems" in the party you've identified and see what they have to say about it.
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 No.378040

>>377792
CPUSA is the only socdem party that has nothing but ML members
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 No.378056

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>implying MLs aren't simply succdems in red
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 No.378217

Dumping this for historical reference.

This is what our CPUSA comrades went through in the 1940s.

Fuck the feds.
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 No.380914

>>356421
FPBP
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 No.380917

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>>378056
Vanguard parties are just representative democracy where everything is run by a ruling class separate from the workers except they don't even let you pretend to have a choice.
Change my mind.
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 No.380996

>>368082
Jesus fucking Christ. Being a CPUSA member in the 1930s wasn't like being a Blood, even if they happen to share the same colour scheme.
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 No.381061

>>380917
>Vanguard parties are just representative democracy where everything is run by a ruling class separate from the workers
Everyone in a vanguard party has to be accountable, decisions made on the basis of democratic centralism. People elected into positions generally are workers and it's their responsibility (indeed, the responsibility for anyone in the party) to stay in touch with the wider working class. There isn't a "ruling class," it's a party not an entire self contained society with it's own mode of production.

>don't even let you pretend to have a choice
Freedom of discussion, unity of action etc.
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 No.381265

>>380917
"Representative democracy" is not democracy.
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 No.381269

>>381265
Big brain: Representative democracy is just liberal vanguardism
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 No.386183

>>380996
>Being a CPUSA member in the 1930s wasn't like being a Blood, even if they happen to share the same colour scheme.

ma uygha
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 No.388995

>>368082
>hate society
>join the communist party thinking it's the way to destroy society
>do secret work for the GRU
>dip out of that lifestyle
>proceed to snitch on people who were never part of the party to begin with
>get a fuck ton of clout as an anti-communist celebrity
Cringe.
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 No.389439

>>356445
>>356454
>>368082
Snitches *clap* get *clap* stitches. *clap clap*
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 No.393694

>>356445
Gross.
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 No.404501

>>356420
Should I join?
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 No.404543

CPUSA never did manage to read anything from any marxist or leninist ever. What is illegal activity, what is guarding against FBI taking over your leading positions etc., lmao.

Fuck americans
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 No.406484

>>404543
Not to mention in his days as a syndie Foster left a fuckton of breadcrumbs for the feds.
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 No.407170

So how big is CPUSA compared to a few years ago? Have they actually grown?
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 No.407473

>>406484
boster… bad?
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 No.407489

>>407473
This pamphlet screams evidence.
https://youtu.be/e5wp983GQaM?t=820
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 No.407499

>>407489
everyone there seems to like foster please explain it as if im 5
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 No.407524

>>407499
He and a few comrades of his wrote a pamphlet when he was an an-syn describing their plan to destroy capitalism.

The feds got a hold of it and used the info against him when he was called to a federal hearing after leading the 1919 steel strike.

Dude could have avoided a lot of repression had he and his buddies been more security conscious.
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 No.407526

>>404543
They are far more Marxist-Leninist than ultras like you.
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 No.407534

Who cares, they’re fully subsumed by the trans cult so they’re reactionary regardless
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 No.407614

>>407524
so foster not bad, foster was just naive thats what I got too, thank you
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 No.407628

>>407614
Foster was arguably one of the greatest communists to come out of the US.
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 No.407639

>>407628
Based :)
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 No.407775

uyghur
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 No.407778

>>407775
uyghaz wit attitudes (U.W.A)
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 No.407791

amogus
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 No.407807

>>407170
Many CPUSA people say that the party has grown massively within the last years. But Communist Parties do not publish statistics about membership and membership growth (for obvious reasons) so you have to take their word for it. The only way to confirm would be to ask someone who is active in the org.
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 No.408579

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CPUSA Anon, I just noticed that the Oregon, Washington chapter of your split-off party, PCUSA is named after John Reed. What are your thoughts on this? The original CPUSA John Reed Club network used to have chapters across the country before they all got consolidated into the American Artists' Congress at a conference hosted by The New School in 1936. Seems like a blatant vulgarization of party history.
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 No.409072

>>356421
Glowing hands typed that post.
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 No.412109

All "communist organizations" are honeypots.

If they weren't the government would have banned them outright by now.
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 No.412249

>>408579
>PCUSA
When the username you want is already taken
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 No.412260

>>356432
The Bolsheviks were basically a German fifth column that gained back its independence. Even before that a lot of people were okhara agents. There will always be infiltrators but it doesn’t completely ruin an org if you know how to combat it. The worst case scenario is something like the Communist party of Malaya where the infiltrator got to the position of general secretary and doomed the whole thing.
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 No.412286

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>>412249
It's funny because they have their own Young Communist League (YCL) as well. It's called the League of Young Communists (LYC)
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 No.412292

>>412286
LOL
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 No.412588

>>356576
>>356585
And what's there evidence the Communist Party killed anyone?
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 No.413479

>>356576
>all those amerikan flags
BARF
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 No.413630

>>412286
communist graffiti kinda cool tho
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 No.414052

>>356576
>although it's not publicly admitted, had strong-arm groups and assassination squads to deal with people they considered to be traitors
The lack of a sufficiently underground, militant wing of CPUSA is arguably why the party got so thoroughly wrecked by the feds' purges. It's how we got to the point of having an 'army without a party' in the 1960s and 1970s with groups encompassing the NCM.
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 No.414061

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I can still post?

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