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 No.353583[Last 50 Posts]

Thread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.

Come one come all to watch this island off the coast of Asia slowly slide into a workers paradise or a live-action version of Mad Max.

Previous thread: >>>/leftypol_archive/19690
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 No.353587

File: 1625321015161.mp4 ( 6.28 MB , 408x720 , bsnfi.mp4 )

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Absolute uyghur behavior.
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 No.353593

This is a shim to identify me here as the Socialist Alliance anon from last thread.
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 No.353594

File: 1625321287539.jpg ( 178.09 KB , 500x725 , maxpermaculture.jpg )

Anyone here into Permaculture or other agroecology techniques?
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 No.353605

>>353559
Oh shit there you go, this was 2015.
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 No.353607

File: 1625321973344-0.png ( 1.98 MB , 1077x2700 , Australian_lefist_theory.png )

File: 1625321973344-1.pdf ( 8.45 MB , 212x300 , 1621060978069.pdf )

File: 1625321973344-2.mp4 ( 18.26 MB , 640x360 , Green Bans.mp4 )

Here's some resources:

- Image attached: short list of Australian leftist theory (unfinished, still open to recommendations)
- Files attached:
- "A New Britannia - Afterword." (Written by Marxist Author Humphrey McQueen in 2004, looking back on his seminal work)
- Video produced by (Victorian) Trades Hall on the BLF-led Green Bans
- Video about John Cummins and the BLF set to Alistair Hulett ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_hnLKJWmnA )

- Various (alternate) sites:
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AustralianPolitics/
https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/country/australia
https://overland.org.au/
https://arena.org.au/
https://www.greenleft.org.au/
https://www.themonthly.com.au/
https://www.crikey.com.au/
https://www.redblacknotes.com/
https://www.surplusvalue.org.au/McQueen/index.htm
https://cpa.org.au/guardian/issue-1963/
https://www.auscp.org.au/militant-monthly
https://redflag.org.au/
https://marxistleftreview.org/?topic=australia
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 No.353608

>>353587
>you people
Pretty racist thing to say about those aboriginal teenagers.
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 No.353611

>>353607
Armstrong and Bramble are actually the ones who converted me to real leftism - I was an ALP stooge until I read that book.
Richard Broome was one of my lecturers - nice guy.
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 No.353614

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-WGjqOCxDI
Invaluable resource, lots of oldschool Communist Party music, plus SUA/WWF (merged into Maritime Union Of Australia) music. For bonus points go to youtube and look up Bill Berry, also Roaring Jack/Alistair Hulett.

>>353605
Yeah. the party (as a party) has moved on immeasurably since then. Aside from purely internal politics, something about 8+ years of coalition rule will do that to you as well.
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 No.353627

>>353614
Good to hear. What's the gossip about the split you mentioned?
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 No.353633

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>>353627
this u?
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 No.353644

Interesting fact: the inventor of the 'collaborative learning space' model of university teaching was a Hegelian Marxist from Melbourne
https://ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/
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 No.353665

>>353633
You said it was public so I figured it wasn't a secret.
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 No.353673

>>353633
More Australian Communist learning:
>Oodgeroo of the Noonuccal tribe, aka Kath Walker, famous Aborginal poet? Highschool English class usually sold as "noble PoC disliker of white privilege". Communist Party member.
>Fred Hollows, the eye doctor. You've seen the ads – "Every eye is an eye. When you are doing surgery there, that is just as important as if you were doing eye surgery on the Prime Minister or King." – Hardcore Communist. As in "witnessed singing The Internationale, drunk, with Ho Chi Minh" communist.
>Adela Pankhurst, big deal suffragette? Her mother was Emalline Pankhurst? CPA
>Henry Lawson, held up as the big Australian national poet alongside Banjo Paterson? Socialist! (before the CPA). Google "Faces in the Street" and "The Army of the Rear" for some serious revolutionary socialism (Bonus round: his Mum, Louisa, was also a feminist and suffragist activist)
>Oriel Gray, author of play The Torrents, recently enacted by Celia Pacquola, and a big left-liberal cause celebre poem from the 50s? CPA member.
>Summer of the Seventeenth Doll, big deal Australian historical play? Set against the background of CPA activism in Far North Queensland in the Depression. Those communities went on to vote for Fred Paterson, including shit like winning the CWA over to Communist Party support.
Australian history is full of a mixture of elision and erasure of these important historical facts about gommunism.

>P.S. look up "Brisbane Soviet"
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 No.353694

>>353665
Sorry, I was mostly playing at being a funny bugger on the internet.

In summary, a bunch of the younger comrades leant towards Marxist economics but with anarchist/Bookchin praxid, and a number of the older comrades weren't keen on it and tried to crack down on it too hard. Consequently a lot of the best of the youth left.

Those who left are mostly still very active in anarchist/libertarian municipalist politics, especially in Adelaide, Perth, and in Brisbane around Jono Sri, including with the Anti-Poverty Network which is an awesome organisation. I basically regret that loss and I think it was avoidable. With them, however, went a bunch of the random opportunists, adventurists, cool-kids-trying-to-get-laid, etc and I don't regret that at all.

It was followed about a year later by the resignation of a couple of the youth leaders who had taken the leadership's "Trot" line harder than the actual Trots. With that, after 50+ years of history, a few stupol idiots killed Resistance as a youth fraction that had an illustrious membership including (after leaving) some Chaser contributors and even an AWU Nat Secy and ACTU Vice Pres. The subsequent desertion of the Resistance leadership who had deliberately driven out the youthful green-left "Socialism in the 21st Century" tendency struck me as a much stronger betrayal than the mere development of an anarcho-green tendency within the Alliance. Very suss behaviour, killing a 50 year old socialist youth organisation and then immediately resigning.
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 No.353766

>>353587
>Implying that drunks never get into brawls in wherever you live.
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 No.353890

>>353587
eshay wastoids
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 No.354099

>>353673
>Brisbane Soviet
Yet that's where Alexander Kerensky, the leader of the Russian Provisional Government that Lenin overthrew, ended up living because of his wife.

At a party in Surfers Paradise he said that he believed Stalin's agents were out to kill him. Not long after he moved back to the USA. Don't know if it's all connected.
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 No.354454

>>354099
lol I just looked it up. While I don't see the relevance between Brisbane in the 1910s and the 1940s, it's hilarious to learn that he divorced his Russian wife and married an Australian journalist, Lydia "Nelle" Tritton. She had already married a White Russian officer in 1928 and divorced him in 1936, only to remarry to Kerensky. What the hell kind of weird fetish is this? Had she stayed healthy, would she have let Kerensky and spent the 1950s looking for an exiled SS-Man in Argentina?
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 No.354569

>>353583
damn why did the new aus general have to have such a gay arse pic? can we start over?
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 No.354580

>>354569
what's wrong with it?
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 No.354589

>>354580
too bleeding heart, let's lighten up a bit like the other countries generals
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 No.354783

>>353594
Can't say I am, but I'd like to learn more about them because… Well… Yeah I'm just a lazy gardner.
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 No.354785

>>353607
Looks like a nice diverse selection.

Thanks m8y
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 No.354789

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 No.354816

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>Me and my skybrain uncle watching sky news.
>"The *Air quotes with fingers* "CCP's 100 year anniversary" may have just been about the tackiest thing the world has ever seen - like a loony left version of the Nuremburg rally. Im sure that some people like Daniel Andrews or the former prime-minister turned conspiracy-theorist kevin 07' would have loved to attend. I wonder if this is what Dandrews next swearing in ceremony will look like if he's re-elected LOL XD
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 No.354828

>>353587
>implying this is a phenomenon exclusive to aussies
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 No.354883

>>354828
It does happen in certain areas of France or the US as well.
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 No.354949

>>353694
>Very suss behaviour, killing a 50 year old socialist youth organisation and then immediately resigning.
hhhhhmmmmm interdasting…
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 No.354953

>>354949
looool rekt by glowies

But what if instead of that, xey began telling everyone that the way to achieve socialism was to provide free labor campaigning for ALP??
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 No.354955

>>354953
That'd be pretty lush tbqh
Just imagine…
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 No.357049

Just sent a massive shitpost to the Spectator. Hoping they will read it.

Original: https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/05/generation-z-stalins-little-helpers/

Yes we are Stalin's Little Helpers and it is an absolutely good thing

Response (informal) to “Generation Z: Stalin’s little helpers” by Alexandra Marshall


To Flat White and to Alexandra Marshall in particular,
This response is directed towards your previous online article “Generation Z: Stalin’s little helpers” from the 11th of May 2021. The two objectives (not parts) of this response are to further affirm i) your theory that we are Stalin’s little helpers and ii) to legally induce a general philosophical fear within you (Alexandra Marshall) in particular – I want you to think about it each night, before going to sleep, for the rest of your life. It will be a relatively informal response, because Burkeanism deserves only nuclear weapons and even this rag of a response is an excessive charity for your class. The response, in two parts will in turn 1) consist of informal commentaries on each paragraph 2) a final semi-formal response, the charity for you.

​1 Informal commentary
The title: “Generation Z: Stalin’s little helpers”. Yes. Absolutely yes. I’ve read Robert Service’s 2004 biography on Joseph Stalin with the goal of emulating his life. My ultimate goal will be to turn Australia into the second communist great power of the 21st century in alliance with the People’s Republic of China, annex New Zealand, annex Vanuatu, annex New Caledonia and turn our massive uranium stockpiles into nuclear missiles, which which to nuke Indonesia and kill each and every Indonesian. Beyond that, I would very much like to fire those 100000s of thousands of missiles onto the United States, NATO countries, Chile, Spain, Russia (for failing the initial project) and a whole host of other countries. But yes, we absolutely are Stalin’s little helpers and we don’t see the problem for us, rather than for you.

“Their antics have turned…”: That’s the idea. The problem was that Stalin was too lax and libertarian, hence allowing cripples like Khrushchev to sneak into the party. The Soviet Union did not end in 1991, it ended in 1953. Stalin was a libertarian – we are not. One day, either you will actively have our ideology in your head or you will not exist. The Dictatorship of the Proletariat was not enough, what is needed is the Totalitarianism of the Proletariat.

“While pretending to fight against oppression in public…”: It would very good for the Spectator’s press equipment to be totally, physically smashed, wrecked, destroyed – not every used and reappropriated for our own ends, tainted as it is. You have vocal chords is also rather too excessive.

“Many people put this behaviour down to bad parenting, but it probably has more to do with years of indoctrination within the school system, which has focused on turning children into Marxist activists instead of intelligent young people.": That’s the funniest cunt-shit I’ve heard. It’s fucking funny how studying HSC economics post-recession made me into a full blown tankie now. But I suppose you might be correct. HSC modern history had a whole unit on Joseph Stalin and his cult of personality. Initially, I personally condemned Stalin as “inefficient” and “irrational” in accordance with my previous economistic creed. However, the 2010s, the continued wars, the Christchurch shootings, I realised he was completely efficient and rational – in relation to the existence of Burkeans. “Only their ideas matter and only their words deserve protection.” Correct.

“It is the standard Marxist response…”: If you ask me, the state is not total enough. Next.

“Children raised by the state lose the essential framework of social responsibility to their family and instead serve the interests of politicians and political movements above their loved ones. ”: That’s the idea, the point. Yes.

“Democracies were originally founded by the coalition of influential families who held more power than the state”: Okay. It would’ve been very nice to list the particular families, the year – the House of Hanover and the Glorious Revolution? But I would differ. Cromwellism is where its at.

“With the family structure in decline, they turned their attention to dismantling equality under the law…” Irrelevant, incoherent, unworthy.

“Instead, collectivist movements reduce individuals to a single attribute and then assign guilt based upon the actions of any individual within the history of that collective. ” Awesome.

“Political systems evolve in the same way as biological ecosystems. ” Politics is politics, biology is biology.

“What Gen Z call ‘Social Justice’ is really just another name for the persecution of innocent people by criminals. ”: Yes, it’s the point. Formal innocence unfortunately protects people who from our viewpoint, do not deserve to be protected.

“Greta Thunburg:” In my opinion, she should die as well. She doesn’t go far enough.

“Hitler and Mao employed identical tactics during their regimes. ”: That only speaks to the latter’s strength.

“We became Red Guards – we all shared the belief that we would die to protect Chairman Mao”: As much as the Chinese are useful as a means, they are disgusting in this regard in that they feel the need to apologise for past victories.

“Despite the terror and fear she both inflicted and suffered at the hands of the murderous revolution…” Again, I fucking hate Chinks for not revelling in the Cultural Revolution. Dengists are slavish in feeling the need to apologise for it.

“Lenin and Stalin perfected the cult of childhood Communism, manipulating Russian society with the fantasy of innocence ”: Awesome, glorious.

“The idea was to create a grassroots community feel ”: Awesome, glorious.

“It is worth pointing out that most of humanity’s worst ideas were enabled through the argument of ‘consensus’ even though consensus has no basis in truth or fact.” It doesn’t need to. Induction does not need formal deductive truth and fact. That’s the whole point of Popperism.

“The one truth which remains constant is that you have to start with children in order to create a generation of adults prepared to kill their friends and family in the name of a political leader ”: An astounding and useful insight.

“In time, this will escalate to a ‘Lord of the Flies’ scenario.”: Yes, from which the strongest and most capable shall emerge.

“We have already seen the youth of Extinction Rebellion, Antifa, and Black Lives Matter send death threats to their peers.” Which is unfortunate, because idle death threats instead of physically carrying them out without warning is worthless.

“If you think none of this matters because ‘it’s just social media’ remember that in a few short years, these kids will be the individuals running the world’s major corporations and sitting in the houses of Parliament. When a generation is allowed to engage in this sort of degenerate behaviour, it entrenches in their psyche and manifests into something much darker in their adult years. It is how you end up with governments led by irrational toddlers who use their power to murder millions in pursuit of the Socialist Utopia. ”: Informally, I would agree with you, that this all matters. And how awesome it will be to run said corporation and run Parliament for the sake of dissolving it like Cromwell. As for “murder”: I do not believe in natural law, the 10 Commandments nor international law. I am a positivist at heart. Murder requires laws prohibiting it. I intend to kill billions and it will be perfectly legal and not murder because I will write the law defining murder. Beyond the legal question, it might even be moral and ethical to do so.

​2) Final semi-formal response: “Yes we are Stalin’s Little Helpers and it is good.”
Syllogistically:

Major Premise: Good comes from particular age groups believing in totalitarian ideologies.

Plato’s Form of the Good is what transforms the philosopher into the philosopher-king – Lenin and Stalin, beginning as young intellectuals, became the leaders of the Soviet Union, “philosopher into philosopher-kings”. What transformed Lenin and Stalin into those leaders was their belief in Marxism-Leninism – thus Marxism-Leninism is the same as Plato’s form of the good.1

Kant’s Categorical Imperative in its first formulation, “Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law”2, can tell us good actions from bad actions. I personally can will that my whole generation become one of Joseph Stalins, believers in Marxism-Leninism. I say it myself.

“Nature has placed mankind under the governance of two sovereign masters, pain and pleasure. It is for them alone to point out what we ought to do, as well as to determine what we shall do. On the one hand the standard of right and wrong, on the other the chain of causes and effects, are fastened to their throne. They govern us in all we do, in all we say, in all we think.…”3 Marxism-Leninism is the true heir to Jeremy Bentham’s utilitarianism. The Katyn Massacres were a necessary and a good balancing of pain and pleasure, for Vasily Blokhin’s mass execution of Polish officers, ensured that to this day, Poland is incapable of attacking its neighbours.
From each of these examples, we induce the rule: “Good comes from particular age groups believing in totalitarian ideologies”.
Minor premise: We millennials are that age group who believe in Stalinism. (You’re basically admitting it yourself.)
Conclusion: Yes, millennials are Stalin’s Little Helper’s and it is good.

Yours sincerely.

P.S.: I am being completely unironic when I say I want to conquer the world and kill billions of people for Stalinism and that this is a good thing. Australia should build up a 100000 thermonuclear missiles and kill with them to implement Stalinism.

1 Reeve, Plato ; revised by C.D.C. (1992). Republic ([2nd ed.]. ed.). Indianapolis, Ind.: Hackett Publ. Co, (508e2–3) .



2 Kant, Immanuel (1993) [1785]. Groundwork of the Metaphysic of Morals. Translated by Ellington, James W. (3rd ed.). Hackett.



3Bentham, Jeremy. 1780. "Of The Principle of Utility." Pp. 1–6 in An Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation. London: T. Payne and Sons
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 No.357063

>>357049
incredible. i wish to see this vision of australia vengeful with my own eyes someday. keep it up stalin
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 No.357066

>>357049
This is what would happen if somebody tried to build communism by using anti-communist propaganda from the cold war as a blue print.
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 No.357075

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 No.357124

>>357049
Omega based
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 No.358570

>>357049
this is too based for the /aus/ general
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 No.358819

>>357049
Unfathomably based. Uncritical support to Stalin mustache anon for absolute oriental Stalinist despot of Australia.
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 No.358875

>>357049
Now THAT'S a shitpost
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 No.358968

I love how COVID has finally instilled some sort of class awareness in Australians.

Of course, the "left" in australia is just liberals who are just "gib UBI pls" cucks, so it's mostly the right doing all the talking about the various ways in which the government and corporations are in bed together fucking over the australian people and robbing them blind.

None the less, it is a great opportunity for socialists, people are very receptive right now, and highly critical of the ruling class.
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 No.359148

>>357049
Make this man a mod
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 No.359158

Should Australian socialists support Labor in elections to stop LibNat hegemony or should we spoiler for green/Communist/Marxist microparties to kill off the NeoLibs as quickly as possible?
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 No.359173

>>359158
Dunno if it passed you by, comrade, but we've got a preferential voting system in Australia.

This literally means that Australian socialists can vote for parties in order of preference. And if you've got a socialist organisation that does electoralism, from local council (ACP) to national registration (Socialist Alliance, SEP), that organisation can hand out how-to-vote cards in order of preference.

I think it is relatively uncontentious that individual Australian socialist voters, and Parties putting together how-to-votes, should preference Labor in elections over the LNP.

Probably an order like:
>Socialists you're a part of
>Other socialist parties
>random microparties if they'd be valuable or left-aligned
>Greens UNLESS [Greens are likely to win AND Labor's local candidate is better because of left politics or left Union affiliation] ; this almost never happens at the federal level
>Labor
>Random non-fascist microparties that are still a bit rightwing, like Shooters Farmers Fishers and Katter's Australia Party (remember: Katter is a longterm pro-union man and almost always votes the union perspective on class-war votes and labour legislation, even if he's a fuckwit in other respects)
>Liberal/National
>Fascist microparties like Liberal Democrats
>One Nation and anything worse
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 No.359214

>>359158
but Scovid is doing so much damage, lmao
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 No.359257

>>359158
Wasn't this the cause of the split in the CPA?
>>359173
That's only if your favourite candidate is likely to win or has no chance. In the middle, we have the spoiler effect. Here is a video explaining this issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtKAScORevQ

If a third party candidate, like the Greens, gets more first preference votes than the Labor candidate, they could be handing the election to the LNP. This is because when the Labor candidate is eliminated, if Labor voters rank LNP ahead of Greens, LNP will probably win. So in that election, you are better ranking Labor #1 and Greens #2 even if you actually want Greens to win.
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 No.359270

>>359257
>This is because when the Labor candidate is eliminated, if Labor voters rank LNP ahead of Greens, LNP will probably win.
Low energy.

Scovid will beat your sleepy anthony
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 No.359273

>>359257
Did you perhaps miss the composite logical expression I attached specifically to the Greens case in the logical flow diagram?

At any rate, this is highly fucking unlikely in the actual reality of Australian politics. It is CERTAINLY not the case for the original statement of "Green/Communist/Marxist" parties – in Australia, literally the only party left of Labor that will be in this position in the foreseeable future is the Greens.

And to be honest, any time there's a big bloc of LNP voters that are likely to be preferencing Greens highly, that in itself is enough of an indication of bizarre political fracture in a leftward direction that the kind of socialists who don't want Labor to get up will either be overjoyed about ("Lib voters are swinging Green! Woohoo!") or cynically unconcerned about ("they're all just capitalists, all politicians are as bad as eachother unless you vote MY specific kind of Trot-Leftcom into power!")
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 No.359284

>>359158
Are you asking me if in the 2PP I'll preference ALP or LNP? It'll be LNP tbh but with any luck my electorate might swing to the Greens, if only for spoiler value.
Either way, Morrison will be back for 3 more years.
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 No.359287

>>359284
>LNP tbh
ALP even*
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 No.359288

>>359257
Also cyka blyat what are you playing at? That fucking Center for Election science channel is funded by Open Philanthropy Project which is just a dark money outfit with a primary funder who is literally Dustin Moskovitz, Zuckercuck's Facebook co-founder (the guy in Social Network who got cucked by Justin Timberlake's Napster guy).

You might as well be showing us some Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk endorsed propaganda
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 No.359502

>>357049
>The title: “Generation Z: Stalin’s little helpers”. Yes. Absolutely yes. I’ve read Robert Service’s 2004 biography on Joseph Stalin with the goal of emulating his life. My ultimate goal will be to turn Australia into the second communist great power of the 21st century in alliance with the People’s Republic of China, annex New Zealand, annex Vanuatu, annex New Caledonia and turn our massive uranium stockpiles into nuclear missiles, which which to nuke Indonesia and kill each and every Indonesian. Beyond that, I would very much like to fire those 100000s of thousands of missiles onto the United States, NATO countries, Chile, Spain, Russia (for failing the initial project) and a whole host of other countries. But yes, we absolutely are Stalin’s little helpers and we don’t see the problem for us, rather than for you.

OMEGA BASED
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 No.359799

>>359273
You're thinking in terms of who you like and ranking them from top to bottom. This is what most people are taught to do because it does what it's supposed to in most situations. In SOME situations that can be harmful.

When Greens are eliminated, you can bet that most preferences go to Labor, but not always the other way around. If a large chunk of Labor voters preference another candidate over Greens, then it may be better to vote Labor over Greens regardless of who you think is better.

This is another explanation of the problem. https://electowiki.org/wiki/Favorite_betrayal_criterion#Instant-runoff_voting

>>359288
Irrelevant, the video is factually correct.
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 No.360982

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Holy shit, the Unit 2 history textbook for VCE is great evidence of bourgeois 'a-historicity'. The Unit 1 textbook at least shines some positive lights on Lenin and the 1917 Revolution, but of course still generally makes the claim the USSR was bad.

The biggest difference between the Unit 1 and 2 textbooks has to be the demonisation of the USSR and the Eastern Bloc; attempts to argue that life in the Eastern Bloc was impoverished, that a lack of consumer goods indicates a poorer standard of living, that the collectivisation of agriculture is a recipe for disaster, the lack of general nuance surrounding wages/labour vouchers, and it presents this ever repeated idea that the nations of the Eastern Bloc were Soviet satellite/puppet states.
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 No.361202

>>359799
Yes, a weakness exists in this voting system.

Knowing this information, do you have any concrete proposal for how to vote?
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 No.361258

>>360982
they're in the books :(
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 No.361495

>>361202
Perhaps you should draw a penis on your ballot or write in Pol Pot
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 No.362320

>>361495
P R A X I S
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 No.363675

>>361495
PRAXDIKS
:DD 8===D
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 No.363726

>>361495

If I didn't live in a coalition stronghold & the seat was actually contested I'd vote pref labor. The only other parties I'd vote for in any capacity are katters or fishers and shooters.

Because I do live in a rural nationals fiefdom I'm probably going to write in Pol Pot or Josef Fritzl.
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 No.365620

>step 1: Housing Booble bursts.
>step 2: All those disgusting new-suburbs with the same house copy-pasted 1000 times on a grid get abandoned halfway through construction.
>step 3: /auspol/-Lumpen-Greens-Anarchist-PostLeft coalition turn one into a small town sized squat.
>????
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 No.365623

>>365620
I'm not living with you weirdos
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 No.365624

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/rashays-face-mask-arrest-rami-ykmour/

>Footage Is Going Viral Of Cops Arresting The Founder Of Rashays Over A Face Mask Dispute


Based petty bourgeois vs copper bourgeois infighting
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 No.365641

>>365624
hahahaha holy shit they have the whole station there because someone doesnt have a mask on? what if there's a genuine emergency somewhere else? fucking retards lmao I hope they die
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 No.365645

>>365620
>step 3: /auspol/-Lumpen-Greens-Anarchist-PostLeft coalition turn one into a small town sized squat
It would collapse into factions the moment the first person arrived. The greens would be the first to cuck out. The anarchists would be so-so, half would cuck out with the greens but the other half would probably be decent. The Post-Leftists would get fed up with any rules or responsibilities and end up being kicked out or starting their own town with blackjack and hookers.

The trots would would try to coopt the entire project and the ACP/CPA would have a single house with the CPA-ML living in their basement.
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 No.365646

>>365624
>rashays
Is this a Sydney thing I'm too Melbourne to understand?
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 No.365670

>>365646
Good pasta, good wine (strangely enough owner is a Lebo Muslim). Unfortunately, got white vs red wine confused once before.
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 No.365671

>>365645
>Greens cuck out on the premise that the project is settler colonialism not giving #landback to Indigenous (Note: Most of the greenies present wont actually believe that but will be pressured into saying they do by some passive aggressive 6/10 girl who watches the video Voosh makes on us calling us RedBrown NazBols)
>Half of the 'Anarchists' (See: Libs) will leave for the exact same reason as above, The other half who just read books all day / /leftypol/ anarchists stay
>Trot's / WSWS / SEP / SALT show up and immediately declare the squat their project, Immediately demand that everyone pay dues and make a paid subscription to the WSWS, Declare everyone else Red-Fascists and leave when everyone refuses
>ACP/CPA fight over whether we should invite Chinese businessmen in or not, An argument briefly erupts where someone unironically proposes sending a letter to the chinese embassy asking to become an autonomous province of China.
>The embedded ASIO officers report this and they show up with loudspeakers telling everyone to leave.
>CPA-ML finally begins the protracted peoples war by locking themselves in one of the squat houses and refusing to leave.
>News crews are met by ACP/CPA memers and /leftypol/yps walking around asking if they can read their manifesto into the camera.
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 No.365679

>>365671

Yeah, that's accurate if we include the CPA-ML climbing the nearest high point to hang a Eureka flag and then slink back into the darkness.
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 No.365688

It would be pretty funny if the CPA-ML actually turned out not to be bullshitting.
Like it turns out most of the generals in the Defence force are actually clandenstine CPA-ML members they begin the revolution when ScoMo asks them to die in Taiwan for the burgers.
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 No.365698

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>>365624

>mfw the owner demands his workers go back to work in the middle of him being arrested.
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 No.365777

>>365671
Meanwhile, in the chaos:
> Extinction Rebellion start gluing onto random houses. If they're unlucky it'll be on the CPA-ML house, where they whereby get shot.
> Permaculturalists and communalists have a great time gardening all over the squat. Shame it'll all be burned down by the post-left gang when they have their town wide doof.
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 No.365794

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 No.365796

>>353594
Yeah it's pretty dope. Imo it's the best way to build dual power in Aus as the climate crises grows. I'm writing a piece describing the problems with industrial agriculture, the solution of suburban food forests and what we need to do to make it reality
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 No.365803

>>353594
>>365796
>>365777
Retard here.
What is the difference between Permaculture as a theory and just generic post-left / AnPrim / Teddite "Lol lets burn down the factories and replant the forests!".?
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 No.365805

>>365688
>if the CPA-ML actually turned out not to be bullshitting.
Bullshitting about what
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 No.365827

Ok so apparently the libs literally told a bald faced lie that anyone not retarded would know would be debunked anyway just…because?

They claimed that they have 'worked out a new deal with Phizer' to secure '20 million doses' and then literally hours later Phizers spokesman came out and said there has been NO recent communication in regards to that between the gov and them at all and the '20 million doses' is what the libs negotiated like months ago.
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 No.365836

>>365827
The Fake News MSM has gone along with it
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 No.365837

>>365794
>>357049
I haven't seen a response on their site yet. Thinking about snail priority mailing a written copy, but have to consider anonymity.
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 No.365857

>>365827
not sure what the benefit is other than giving false hope

maybe they will trick some smool businesses into remaining open. lool their savings will be drained by the misleading advice
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 No.365858

>>365803
>What is the difference between Permaculture as a theory and just generic post-left / AnPrim / Teddite "Lol lets burn down the factories and replant the forests!".?
Because permaculture isn't anti-technology?
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 No.365862

>>365837
Lol dude that's a lot of dedication for a gag, I hope you put as much effort into other projects
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 No.365886

>>365827
They do this all the time. People who pay attention know it, some care, some don't. People who don't pay attention think Morrison is great, which is why he'll win again.
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 No.365888

>>365624
We need a few American cops on the force.
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 No.365902

Do you guys see Indonesia as a credible military threat?
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 No.365937

>>365886
yes, the vaccines have been "a few weeks away" ever since the beginning of th pandemic, haha

realistically, many of the smool businesses would been better off shutting down permanently at the first wave
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 No.365983

>>365777
>Permaculturalists and communalists have a great time gardening all over the squat
wholesome tbqh
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 No.366131

Does anyone here take COVID seriously?
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 No.366829

>>365902
From the 1965 killings, the treatment of East Timor and the West Papua problem, you are deluded if eventually, the Javan menace will not become an American-servant threat. Indonesia is ten times more threatening than China by distance and history.
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 No.366970

>>365803
As a theory, Permaculture doesn't have any strong anti-technology elements in it. The original writings in the 1970s do have a bit of a doom-and-gloom, "peak oil is coming, we need to start preparing for the collapse" mindset (hence the original meme referencing Mad Max) arising from the 1970s oil crisis, the ousting of Whitlam, and all the other turbulent shit from the 70s. Then again, we've got our own worries with the climate crisis etc. and so it's not like that's all gone away. A big obsession in permaculture is limiting energy usage from fossil fuel sources, and it's kind of a legacy of that era (and not a bad one to have).

The main points of permaculture can be summed up as:
> Fair shares: Build your food production systems to be as self-sustaining as possible
> People care: Build your food production system to sustain a network of mutual aid with other people
> Earth Care: Build your food production system to improve the environment you're farming, not destroy it

So as to minimise the need for industrial-scale farming practices like exhausting the soil and then dumping tons of fertiliser on it, or using insecticides that kill all the predator bugs along with the things eating your crops, so you now need to keep using pesticides. A lot of it is about trying to minimise the effort required by mimicking natural processes, and there's much less backbreaking labour than if you're doing some medieval style farming.

So for a large sized communal farm, permaculture proposes techniques for retaining more water, using natural waste (leaf mulch, animal shit) as fertiliser, keeping animals in such a way that it helps increase the fertility of the soil (pigs rooting around to aerate the soil in fallow seasons), and so on. Permaculture generally prefers not to do full-scale soil tilling

For a small scale home system, this means keeping your own veggie garden, maintaining a compost heap, maybe plant a few trees or a planter box of strawberries on your apartment windowsill and give the excess fruit away to your neighbours (to build connections and community for mutual aid).

Permaculture has the distinction of being picked up at large scale in Cuba, after the USSR collapse left them without a good source of industrial products (petroleum, nitrate fertiliser), and it seems to have worked pretty well. What is undeniable is that intensive farming seems to be able to produce about 10 times the food per unit of land, at a cost of about 3-5 times the labour hours, with drastically lower energy inputs. This is great because it's still a relative saving (i.e., double output per unit land), you can repurpose the land to other uses, and all you have to trade-off for it is a fairly enjoyable type of labour that tends to bring people together, provide a common purpose, avoid unemployment, etc.

In some areas of the enviro left there's a bit of contention about permaculture but I completely understand it. Some people in permaculture had a history of acting like the SAlt of enviro-farming, "we have the One True Way and everyone else is not inspired by the divine light of Bill Mollison", and there's definitely another fringe of people who love to talk a big an-prim game on their way back from a trip to Bunnings with their community gardening group. I prefer to see permaculture as one part of a broader ecosystem of agro-ecological method and practice, all of which has much useful information for us, both in terms of building viable mutual aid networks here today, and how to run the food economy After The Revolution (tm).
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 No.367000

>>366131
Yes. Government should have
1. Built dedicated quarantine facilities
2. Made efforts to ensure all Australians could return home.
3. Ensured access to an excessive amount of vaccines of varying types - if everything turned out well and we had spares we could have donated the rest to developing countries.
Instead they refused to build quarantine facilities, put caps on people coming home (unless you're going overseas on business lol) and were tightasses when it came to securing vaccines.
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 No.367674

>>366970
Why do people rag on it so much?
It seems wholesome and well intention, even a bit quixotic in the Bookchin sort of way.

bro I just want to help create a cosy community garden that doesn't get overrun with oldies
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 No.367676

>>366970
You seem to know a bit about this.

Could you give some commended readings please?

I wonder if this'd work in Aboriginal communities too.
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 No.367837

>>367674
As I alluded to before, a lot of permaculture people have historically been quite fanatically self-righteous, and actually I think very similarly to the way some Bookchinites got a bad rep (for the record I quite like Bookchin). I should say that I think Bookchin has huge overlap with Permaculture and I'd highly recommend Social Ecology and Ecology of Freedom as complimentary works to permaculture.

There's also a factor where a lot of permaculture… er, culture is rooted in the 1970s boomer assumptions of the world. It's not uncommon, even today, to hear shit on forums like "I got into permaculture years ago, and kids these days don't know how to economise. If you don't have a water source near to your homestead, just use the river that runs through your property" and so on. Land was cheap then. There's also a tendency for people to spout off (erroneously) about the theory of permaculture when they haven't so much as planted a herb garden, but again this is no different to other arguments about theory without praxis. Finally, like a lot of the environment movement there's a lot of people who are kind of wacky tree-wizards who'll tell you about a dream they had 30 years ago, plus regular old XR-type radlibs, and so on – all taken together I understand where the bad rap came from, but at the end of the day that's just what happens when you live as a social animal around other people.

Still, for our purposes, who cares, there's still a lot that can be applied from apartment windowsills to post-revolutionary arcological farms.

>>367676
The classic readings are:
>Permaculture One - Mollison and Holmgren
>Permaculture Two - Mollison
>Permaculture Designers Manual - Mollison
>Gaia's Garden [Permaculture for urban and suburban gardens; very good book]
Plus:
>The One-Straw Revolution - Masanobu Fukuoka
A Japanese farmer doing similar stuff around the same time, kind of got integrated into the permie canon
>The Power of Duck
Guess what this one's about

Bonus round: while Bruce Pascoe's "Dark Emu" and Bill Gammage's "The Biggest Estate on Earth" are relatively new books that got bulk press for supposedly being the first to say that Aboriginal people used ecological/agricultural techniques, actually there's a bunch of mentions in the original 1970s Permaculture I and II talking about how this was well known, and how we should use these techniques as they're (obviously) well suited to Australian conditions.
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 No.369127

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/og0e7q/more_than_80_of_australians_mistakenly_believe/

>No surprise here. Another completely dumbed down colony with a long list of criminal record as history.


>Haha, looks like the whitey conservatives realize that the “free market” isn’t working out after all.

>Decades ago, Lee Kuan Yew warned that Australia would eventually become the “white trash of Asia.” Now it looks less like a warning, and like an inevitability.
>The Anglo Aussies never got rich from merit, but through exploitation. They cannot work as hard as the minorities living in Australia. Despite being xenophobic as hell, they have no choice but to take in more Asian immigrants to keep their economy afloat. It’s only a matter of time until they’re displaced and Australia truly becomes an Asian nation.

>Price them out! Price them out!


Dengoids everyone.
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 No.369133

>>367837
I think You hit the nail on the head, you have to take out the production techniques from perma culture but leave the weird cultist shit.
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 No.369143

>>353587
Anti-dengoid eshay praxis
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 No.369145

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>>369127
I don't think they're dengists but rather just plain old Chinese nationalists. But there is significant crossover with genzedong so who knows, internationalism and self-awareness does seem to be in short supply these days.
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 No.369150

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>>369127
>mfw I see some idiot quote LKY
Goddamn he is such an overrated person.
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 No.369152

>>369150
BUT ANON LOOK HOW KEWL SINGAPORE LOOKS ITS CYBERPUNK JUST LIKE THE MOOVIES!!!!11!!!!
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 No.369155

>>369152
Asian skyline pics are PEAK culture my dude.
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 No.369157

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>The Australian government is attempting to appeal a court ruling that "The government has a responsibility to protect children [And by extension all citizens] from the effects of climate change"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/09/australian-government-to-appeal-ruling-that-it-must-protect-children-from-climate-harm

>Literally

<Court
>"You cant let your citizens die.
<Gov
>"Yes we can."

I am under the impression at this point that we may actually be the first country that collapses into Cyberpunk dystopia cities and collapse cult ruralism.
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 No.369163

>>369127
What is even more ironic is that they are pointing to Singapore which has everything they accuse Australia of in far worse levels, they have one of the lowest fertility rates in the world and rely heavily on immigration and foreign labour - with close to 50% of their population having been born overseas.

This is your brain on nationalism.
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 No.369179

>>369127
Well that's just sad.
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 No.369195

>>367837
Thanks for the sources.

And yeah, it seems so many things are take the techniques, dispense with the culture.
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 No.369196

>>369157
Why can't the LNP. like just all of them, fucking get COVID and die or something.
Christ.
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 No.369345

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Could someone point me towards some theories about what is to be done in Australia? (Personal or academic). I think in the midst of rising political corruption and dissatisfaction an option has to be presented and the moment seized, however, the left here seems to be broken into pieces.

On the one end you have a series of atomised radicals - the ACP's, Trots, Anarchist groups (even heard of a "defend Gonlazo" movement) - who are too small and too disconnected to have any real power. And on the other end you have establishment electoralists and Blairites (both having backgrounds in Law) who rise up the ALP via competitive brown nosing. Both of these groups can't seem to do much, so what is the course of action here?

>inb4 glowing
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 No.369348

>>369345
>Could someone point me towards some theories about what is to be done in Australia?
Go back to Ingerland.
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 No.369351

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>>369348
>>369345
If god wanted you to live in Australia he would've given you melanin.
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 No.369364

>>369348
and then what?
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 No.369366

>>369364
You'll figure it out. Why didn't you "and then what?" Before you moved to the desert with your pasty skin?
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 No.369371

>>369345
My best guess is that climate change is going to hit some fairly populated areas pretty hard.

Sydney is the obvious example with water shortages.

Things are looking rough for the South-West of WA, water shortages again.

The north coast is going to have wild heatwaves.

Remote communities are potentially going to stop being supported if water problems grow intense enough.

Our agriculture sector is potentially going to be impacted hard as well. Heatwaves in grazing areas might impact livestock a lot. We saw heatwaves kill a ton of fruit bats a couple years ago, so why not cattle? This will obviously lead to issues.

Our reliance on exporting fossil fuels might be a big problem when the rest of the world adopts more renewables.

etc.

This will all lead to a general unsteadiness in Australia. I think we should be building dual power by setting up community based systems which are resilient against climate change (permaculture, renewable energy, small scale industry, etc.). Then, if revolution ever happened, we'd have systems already in place.

I'm writing about this in essay form on my blog if anyone is interested: https://greenanarchodoomerism.wordpress.com

>>369366
I was born here tho, and I never moved to the desert.
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 No.369414

>>369371
Your essay on the crisis being here is good but I think you should be a little more critical of XR's tactics and ideology - below is a good essay that touches on the tactics of theatrics as well as the questionable methodology that "proves" non-violence as being politically better than violent tactics.

https://www.orchestratedpulse.com/2016/06/you-call-this-an-uprising/
>"Activists should of course focus on strategies to disrupt the social order. But not all disruption is created equal. Winning attention is not the same thing as winning and media spectacle does not make movements. “Changing the conversation,” absent some wider change in the balance of forces in civil society is a sterile accomplishment. It seems appropriate that the Englers include an entire chapter on how activists can claim victory when they don’t achieve their stated goals."

(just control+G and type in "Nonviolence works?" for a criticism of Erica Chenoweth)
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 No.369420

>>369414
Also in relation to climate change heightening political tensions, I agree. I have a feeling that it would force more people into the cities and force the cities further apart as well.
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 No.369569

>>367837
I've been thinking about getting into gardening recently and this sparked my interest. But god damn you can tell there is a cult by how expensive those books are.
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 No.370722

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>>365862
>>365794
>>357049

Fuck that dog Marshall!
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 No.374069

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glgCA9WmqkI

New Ecological blackpill just dropped.
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 No.374150

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>>370722
I made this for you
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 No.374216

>Der-Boomer uncle watching Sky.
>"THE SOLOMON ISLANDS IS BETRAYING AUSTRALIA THEIR GREATEST ALLY BY CHOOSING TO ACCEPT CHINESE MADE VACCINES INSTEAD THE BURGERINO ONES WE OFFERED TO DONATE!!!!!!"
What…What sort of ideology even is this???
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 No.374396

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>OH NO #SCOVID ISN'T DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOB AT HELPING US POZ OURSELVES UP WITH THE SCIENCE JOOSE!!!! THIS IS LITERALLY GENOCIDE.
What is to be done about these people?
We're not fucking Brazil LMAO everybody in Australia could catch COVID and the death-rate would literally stay at 0.15% with almost 90% of that 0.15% being extreme old age or pre-existing conditions.

I dont think Liberals (In the actual sense not the Lib-Nats) are realising how many proles they are alienating with this lockdown shit.
Only upside may be glady's losing next election considering Sky-News Boomers have flipped overnight from 'Doing her best' to '((GLADYS))) IS PART OF THE NWO PLOT TO DESTROY AUSTRALIA' The second restrictions were actually applied to them.
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 No.374420

>>357049
>>370722
hahahahha based
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 No.374425

>>374396
why are you so desperate to turn Australia into the United Kingdom when you could just move here and enjoy the fruits of your preferred policy pathway being put into practice poorly.
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 No.374428

>>374425
>6 people died today in the UK as of last update.
As i said less then a percentage of the population.
6 more people probably also died of Pneumonia brought on by common cold or complications from a second cause in the UK today as well.

Let people take the scienceTM jooce if they want.
ENCOURAGE people to isolate if they think their at risk. And to do basic health and safety shit (Wash Hands etc)

We have had 112 cases (yesterday) and only 1 death from this entire outbreak and we've basically impovrished most of my states working population because of it.
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 No.374431

>>374428
you're an idiot
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 No.374444

>>374069
please fuck off cunt
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 No.374455

>>374428
>We have had 112 cases (yesterday) and only 1 death from this entire outbreak
this is precisely what demonstrates that the Australian strategy has worked better than the British one: Britain not only still impoverished the population, but also got 128,000 people killed and all but guaranteed that things are still going to be fucked in 2025. using the lack of deaths to argue against preventative measures is like arguing that jumping out of a plane without a parachute is a good idea because most people who've done it with one were fine.
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 No.374533

>>369371
>I think we should be building dual power by setting up community based systems which are resilient against climate change (permaculture, renewable energy, small scale industry, etc.). Then, if revolution ever happened, we'd have systems already in place.
Totally agreed. This is basically what the ACP is trying to do with CUDL. Being new kids on the block, of course, not much has been developed thus far but in Melbourne there is a comrade trying to get CUDL to do more gardening/enviro stuff and I know at least person in the ACP cell there who is doing a PHD or something in some form of environmental science. Of course, being the "youth split", the ACP also lacks alot of experience and have basically started from scratch, all the resources from their split with the CPA staying with the CPA.

>>369345 is correct though. The radicals here are too splintered. From personal experience though, it seems like there's some level of cooperation between good (ie. active and not overzealous) anarchists and the ACP. An aspect to this is mutual dislike for the various trot parties and the stagnant CPA/CPA-ML. Hopefully this new generation can get their wits together.
Also the ALP/Greens are fucking hopeless.

>defend Gonlazo

Meme lords. Can be safely ignored imo. Surprisingly, the best maoists in Australia are actually with the CPP
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 No.374573

>>374533
>the best maoists in Australia are actually with the CPP
damn, respect
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 No.374814

>>374533
>CUDL to do more gardening/enviro stuff
Do they get involved in existing gardening/enviro groups? There are already quite a lot in Australia.
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 No.374967

>>369414
It's something I'm very critical of, I tried to make that apparent in my essay but I guess that wasn't the case.
For example, I say:
>I think it unreasonable to expect that we can force the restructuring our entire economy when we could not put an end to sexism and racism through the same tactic of nonviolent civil disobedience.
Is this not explicitly critical of XR's tactics and ideology?

>>374533
> This is basically what the ACP is trying to do with CUDL.
I'm v curious about the CUDL. How well do they connect to people who don't identify with communism? That's something XR has had a lot of success with, that imo, should be copied by radical leftists.
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 No.375168

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>>374814
>Do they get involved in existing gardening/enviro groups
If you have any input or even want to help CUDL in that regard, I doubt you'd be outright turned down or ignored.
But afaik, people who volunteer with CUDL usually do that sort of thing outside of CUDL. Regardless, new group with very limited resources. We'll see how they develop.
>>374967
>I'm v curious about the CUDL. How well do they connect to people who don't identify with communism?
There was this vietnam vet (I think), the most anti-communist bloke you could find, volunteered consistently and served the people under the hammer and sickle alongside ACP members. Most kitchens (yes, I know, "muh soup tankies") there is generally an ACP member or CUDL volunteer having a chat with a patron and most people approaching to ask questions come in good faith and are generally receptive.
I don't know how many people would be willing to follow the directives of the party, but CUDL seems to be able to connect decent enough.

In regards to connecting with non-ML organizations and campaigns… In general, the strategy being employed (at least in Melbourne) is one whereby CUDL (ACP too to a degree) acts as a "force multiplier" of sorts, assisting other groups to build rapport, show sincerity in their beliefs and display the willingness to action of their membership. Say, for instance, their involvement with organizing this year's IMARC blockade or their membership assisting medic crews at protests/actions.

At the moment, I think CUDL has the potential to act as a sort of duct tape for fragmented radicals sick of sectarian hoo ha (SAlt). By this I mean that CUDL, though being an organ of the ACP, isn't averse to coordinating with non-communists if it means doing some good deed. They're not going to refuse someone on a stupid sectarian basis but they're not going to allow wreckers.(They're also not going to stand by as people bad mouth the party but I mean come on, that's universal.) They get people out doing generally non-dangerous non-illegal action while retaining the radical, revolutionary edge. Some sort of common direction, neutral ground even, is what the left in Aus needs to get itself on it's fucking feet and I think CUDL can provide that. I could be wrong, horribly so, but we'll see. Regardless, CUDL has a long way to go.

The main weakness of the ACP/CUDL is, as I've stated before, the low amount of resources and lack of experienced members. Lacking well developed and highly disciplined cadre to fall back on means that cohesion and consistency of action suffers. Lacking resources (cash money) also means limits in what can realistically be done. I'm confident this will be resolved in time but I can't say if it will be resolved fast enough.

Relevant article: https://www.auscp.org.au/militant-monthly/2020/12/5/come-on-sunday-thats-when-the-communists-come

>That's something XR has had a lot of success with

From where I'm standing, XR looks to a bunch of adventurists in it more to "stick it to the man" by performing stunts that alienate a large section of the working class and only foster more adventurist tendencies as impressionable radicals all flock to have their "revolutionary moment." XR may be only as "popular" as it is precisely because they lack effectiveness and are thus tolerated to a degree. In short, they are in the process of being recuperated by capitalism. Most people who have a clue only touch whatever XR does with a 10m pole.

Maybe if CUDL wanted to be a breeding ground for liberals, it'd try emulate XR. I get what you mean though and I think the main approach CUDL has for getting support is best summed up by saying "actions speak louder than words". For real though, all lefty nibbas need to step up our game.
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 No.375211

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>>375168
Also remember that the best way to ask the ACP/CUDL about stuff is to either hit them up directly online (generally response times are reasonable) or rock up to a street kitchen assuming they're operational in your area. As a principle, fair and reasonable criticism or constructive feedback from the people is something that should be listened to by any self respecting ML party.
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 No.375256

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Comrades, I want to try living somewhere else. There's nothing wrong with where I am in Australia, I'm just up for some mild adventure and something new. If you got to pick anywhere in Australia to live, where would you go?

I know it can be hard to move right now with border closures, but let's just assume you can move because they do open the borders from time to time.

>>375168
>>375211
Where is the most promising CUDL group to join?
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 No.376196

>>375256
Sydney then Melbourne probably.
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 No.376320

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does anyone have this book? Could you scan/take pics of it and share it here? Online prices are extreme and the book is hard to come by.
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 No.376946

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>>376908
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 No.376960

>>376908
>>376950
fuck off, /pol/
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 No.376961

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>>376950
ok
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 No.379271

>>375168
> acts as a "force multiplier" of sorts, assisting other groups to build rapport, show sincerity in their beliefs and display the willingness to action of their membership.
Fuck, so exactly what a dude in our local AUWU is doing. Helping be a "multiplier" at union events and actions.
He's even started using his own 3d printer to make little key-chains to sell to general members of the public to help fund stuff like stalls and charity donations.
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 No.379274

>>375256
>If you got to pick anywhere in Australia to live, where would you go?
Tasmania.
Lots of work to be done there.
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 No.379375

Does anyone whose not mentally retarded unironically buy the "LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT IN A DECADE!!!" Bullshit?
People i work with think the government is just outright lying at this point because basically everyone knows at least two people who are out of work cuz of covid or its secondary effects
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 No.379387

>>379375
Some family members do :\
Now they think it's "great" that underemployed can get two or three jobs to equate to full time.
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 No.379616

>>375168
>In general, the strategy being employed (at least in Melbourne) is one whereby CUDL (ACP too to a degree) acts as a "force multiplier" of sorts, assisting other groups to build rapport, show sincerity in their beliefs and display the willingness to action of their membership. Say, for instance, their involvement with organizing this year's IMARC blockade or their membership assisting medic crews at protests/actions.
Very interesting, this doesn't really exist in Perth, and is something I've been trying to conceptualize, so it's nice to see that this kind of org exists.

>The main weakness of the ACP/CUDL is, as I've stated before, the low amount of resources and lack of experienced members.

This is something that I think XR has to offer, community draw has a lot of potential. Here in Perth local groups are slowly developing, and I'm wanting to help make XR focus less on the whole 3.5% of the population meme and more on what the CUDL are up to.

>From where I'm standing, XR looks to a bunch of adventurists in it more to "stick it to the man" by performing stunts that alienate a large section of the working class and only foster more adventurist tendencies as impressionable radicals all flock to have their "revolutionary moment."

I can only comment on what's going here in Perth. I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I do have a few points of disagreement. Ultimately all radical groups alienate a significant section of the working class, we're in a pretty stagnant position in Aus. No group in Aus is growing significantly, as far as I'm aware anyway. Plus in my experience people who get disrupted by XR either sympathize and engineer yuppies tend to support us (I know quite a few engineers and they mostly seem to be begrudgingly working for the mines). Idk how XR has marketed themselves over east, but here i don't think that issue exists.

>XR may be only as "popular" as it is precisely because they lack effectiveness and are thus tolerated to a degree. In short, they are in the process of being recuperated by capitalism.

I mean this can be applied to every group lol. Even something like CUDL can be recuperated by capitalism, plenty of communist parties have done so.

> I get what you mean though and I think the main approach CUDL has for getting support is best summed up by saying "actions speak louder than words". For real though, all lefty nibbas need to step up our game.

I definitely agree, direct action is the best way forward. I am skeptical though of how effective direct action will be overcoming the various negative associations people have with communist aesthetics.
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 No.379619

>>379271
Has anyone written anything about this kind of organizing? I'd be keen to set something up of similar form in Perth
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 No.379632

>>379387
how do they think that's great?
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 No.381097

>>379375
Well for me I've always assumed the unemployment rate isn't necessarily untrue but that all the jobs people are getting are piss poor in pay and hours.
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 No.381120

>>379271
>Fuck, so exactly what a dude in our local AUWU is doing. Helping be a "multiplier" at union events and actions.
AUWU and UWU are pretty based ngl.
Main issue with this sort of thing though is when it's done on an individual basis with little effort to then "unify" the worker's movement.
(also make note of trade union economism etc etc)

>>379616
>I mean this can be applied to every group lol. Even something like CUDL can be recuperated by capitalism, plenty of communist parties have done so.
My point was moreso that from what I've been told, the leadership of XR is hopelessly liberal and actively weeds out radicals. This, of course, makes trying to
>help make XR focus less on the whole 3.5% of the population meme and more on what the CUDL are up to
far harder. Even if it is achieved, without a cohesive revolutionary anti-capitalist line, the threat of recuperation is ever higher.
If XR is better over where you are, could ya give some tips in regards to how you go about interacting with them (for lack of a better term)? I'd like to see an effective XR over here but people have tried and failed to break through the liberalism.
>I am skeptical though of how effective direct action will be overcoming the various negative associations people have with communist aesthetics.
We'll see hey. I assume that if it is seen to be too much of an issue/hurdle for organizing, it will be brought up at the next party congress. I don't see ACP/CUDL rebranding too much in the near future.
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 No.381349

>>381120
>Main issue with this sort of thing though is when it's done on an individual basis with little effort to then "unify" the worker's movement.
(also make note of trade union economism etc etc)

For sure there are issues.
But it's being my observation that it's a) Scalable relative to local conditions, b) Accessible with a low entry of "scary activism", and c) Can ultimately be unified from local outward (like postcode > council/town > region > state > federated > unified).

Plus most people and groups can do it. It's very "Sea before the mountain" kind of thinking, but allows access which I feel it key locally.
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 No.382921

>NOOO NOOO NOOO #SCOVID #GUILTYGLADYS YOU NEED TO LOCK US DOWN! YOU NEED TO SEAL US INSIDE OUR HOMES!
>WE NEED TO STAY INSIDE FOR YEARS AND YEARS JUST TWO MORE YEARS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE GUYS!!!!
>HEY I JUST TOOK FOUR VACCINES IN ONE DAY NOW IM SUPER VACCINATED! THANK YOU MEDICAL SUPERHEROES!
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 No.382978

any locomotive autists here? I want to know about australia's railways and trains in the late 1800s. any resources would be appreciated
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 No.383055

>>379375
>>379375
I do because one immigration has stopped and most importantly because I know the government abuses statistics by not counting unemployed people who aren’t looking for work.
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 No.383057

>>382921
stop being a fuckhead
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 No.383070

>>382978
wtfjesse.jpeg
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 No.383321

>>382978
Fuck it, I can't remember how to crosspost.

Anyway, there'sa thread over in /hobby/ for trains and rail enjoyers.
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 No.383442

>>382978
You might be well served trying to cozy up to leftwing members of the Railway, Tram and Bus Union (RTBU) if you know any in your local area.

An older comrade of mine was a public servant (CPSU) when he retired but he was a railway worker as a young man in the 1980s and I can regualrly sit down over a beer, ask him to tell me about trains, and stand up 20 beers later without having heard 1% of his stories and the shit he knows about trains.
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 No.384594

>>382978
What part of Australia? Each colony literally had their own system that was incompatible with the others.
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 No.384769

>>383321
thanks, i posted there
>>383442
hmm i don't know anyone but i was thinking about asking around at the ipswich railway museum
>>384594
this is interesting and retarded. id want to mostly know about NSW and VIC
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 No.384836

>>384594
> Each colony literally had their own system that was incompatible with the others.
JUST

pretty much why we can't get any decent rail infrastructure off the ground.
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 No.385383

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 No.385489

>>381120
>The leadership of XR is hopelessly liberal and actively weeds out radicals.
Hopelessly liberal? Yes
Actively weeds out radicals? Not where I am at least, for a time SAlt were involved (before they left on their own accord), and Socialist Alliance are big allies in terms of hands and a space to meet at (they don't propagandize much tho). Most radicals leave though as it's quite hard engaging with liberal boomer takes (like the police are our friends, there's actually a chance the government will capitulate, etc.).

>Even if it is achieved, without a cohesive revolutionary anti-capitalist line, the threat of recuperation is ever higher.

Yeah that's a big reason I'm critiquing XR internally. I've managed to get a handful of good activists on board and I see a lot of potential with XR's local groups. We'll see if it goes anywhere, but in any case I definitely see committed members of XRWA becoming disenfranchised with its liberal theory of change.

>could ya give some tips in regards to how you go about interacting with them (for lack of a better term)? I'd like to see an effective XR over here but people have tried and failed to break through the liberalism.

There isn't a quick fix unfortunately, ya just got to build positive relationships by helping out and by being a decent human being. From there you'll have opportunities to discuss things and if you're well reasoned, people will slowly turn. Like Socialist Alliance has made good relationships with XR here by helping out, but they've not deviated from their radical stance. What's important is creating reach in the community, and then there will be opportunity to educate and agitate. Idk your specific situation so I can't give much advice, but I'm sure there's a way.

>I assume that if it is seen to be too much of an issue/hurdle for organizing, it will be brought up at the next party congress. I don't see ACP/CUDL rebranding too much in the near future.

Why can't ya just brand whatever group you organise with and just associate with the ACP/CUDL? Why do you need permission from the party to experiment with your praxis? Diversity of tactics will help find more effective tactics faster than party congress's passing down orders.
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 No.385524

>>385489
>Why can't ya just brand whatever group you organise with and just associate with the ACP/CUDL?
I thought you were talking about totally rebranding the party itself. I get ya though.

I might look more into XR here in Vic, good luck with it all out west.
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 No.385529

>Why can't ya just brand whatever group you organise with and just associate with the ACP/CUDL? Why do you need permission from the party to experiment with your praxis? Diversity of tactics will help find more effective tactics faster than party congress's passing down orders.

I'm a different anon but my experience with my own party activity is that 'diversity of tactics' sounds great but all of the Australian far-left organisations are basically tiny and poor. Even a smallish activity like a literature and propaganda stall/Food Not Bombs/CUDL/Serve the People/APN takes half a dozen people if you want to have it happen with any regularity and sustainability. Most socialist org branches outside maybe Melb and Sydney aren't a lot bigger than this to begin with, and if people split off things are more likely to fall apart than result in a thousand flowers blooming.

In 'soil' with only enough 'nutrients' for one or two flowers at a time, you're incentivised to collectively work out the best flowers and then invest in them. As long as the party congress is genuinely democratic (and SAlt/SAlli/Solidarity/CPA/ACP/Socialist Party are all small enough that realistically the entire party can meet in a single room, so democracy isn't the problem at that level of personal relationships), having that tactical unity and concentration of force can often be a much better bet than every three-person student clique in the party's youth just going off and doing their own thing at random.
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 No.385964

My mother's got The Cough and it woke me up in the middle of the night. If she dies India will have to be wiped from existence as a reactionary nation.
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 No.386760

more based west, would love to know the background of this guy
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 No.389207

>>382921
Are you the retard who thought anarchism was materialism? Fucking hilarious if so
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 No.393504

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How the fuck do I find this thread >>332596

And why the fuck are all Australian unis property developers now, like they're not even hiding it anymore…

Also we need fewer unis and they need to be free but have entry exams, but also give lots of financial support to low ses students prior to them attempting said exam

Or we abolish that shit completely because you can't buy your way into the real capitalist class
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 No.393874

>>393869
If History had just turned out slightly different (aka the Australian population not being PsyOp'd into thinking he was a better choice for PM then Chifley) then he would be thought of as an abysmal failure.
He literally sold iron to make guns and bullets to Japan because it made his friends money and when Bri'Ian asked him why he did it when they inevitably declared war he was just like "WAIT WHAT I WASN'T MEANT TO BE DOING THAT??? I DONT AGREE WITH THAT SIR!"

He also failed in the only serious diplomatic affair he ever actually had to handle and caused a fucking war to happen (Suez crisis)
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 No.393886

>>387124
I got the JJ and now I'm getting the Pfizer. People were like "it's still not approved here". uygha as if I gave a fuck. Getting my third jab a few weeks from now.

GIGA VAXXED.
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 No.395320

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still cant believe we just beat argentina
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 No.395388

>>393869
acp should open up a CUDL next to the centre
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 No.395764

>>395320
ITS COMING HOME!
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 No.397251

>>375256
What’s the coldest major city in Australia? I’ve heard a lot of people say Melbourne or Hobart, but I’ve never seen any scientific evidence on the subject. Whatever that city is is my choice
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 No.397284

>>397251
>but I’ve never seen any scientific evidence on the subject.
well dude, just open a historical temperature record. it's not hard.
probably hobart because le down on la map means more antarctic
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 No.397364

>>397251
How hard is it to do a google search on historical average yearly temperatures?

Anyway, the answer is Hobart which is far south enough that they regularly experience the southern lights, followed by Melb which barely dips into negative celsius temperatures sometimes in winter.

As to where is going to be the safest place to be in coming chaotic climate change nobody can really say as so many black swans are emerging & climate studies so hopelessly optimistic and fudged that nobody really knows which direction things are going to go. Until recently people gambled on Canada & Siberia serving as breadbaskets for the world but surprise surprise, while idiot NGO's and lefty groups were focusing on muh floods & rising seas - which in reality is a miniscule threat compared to the more serious shit we're about to go through, climate instability is far, far worse than anybody could have imagined to the point they're experiencing temps in the upper 40c & almost 50c range in both countries.

The reality is nowhere is truly safe. Tasmania broadly is probably the best place to be, followed by vic, although there are so many potential wild cards and what if's that it's not really possible to plan out effectively as individuals where the best spot to be is.

For me the big issue is whether I should remain in rural areas or move to either melb/hobart. It's a question of whether we're going to experience a faster outright collapse into madmax salvage punk world or whether the system can pull together and we're trending towards cyberpunk techno-dystopia (at least for the duration of our lifetimes).

I'm trying to hedge for both but as a rural povo it ain't easy.
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 No.397375

>>397364
I just like cold weather, I’m not a climate doomer
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 No.397378

>>385964
Nah my friend, the Indians are cool. The Yankee virus originated in the US & thus responsibility for the pandemic lay entirely on the American species.

We must demand full reperations for every cent of economic damage from the Yankee goblins, with generous interest. If they refuse to pay, everything north of the Mexican border must be carpet nuked with cobalt salted 200MT thermonuclear weapons with particular focus on fresh water deposits & agricultural land.
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 No.397674

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 No.397678

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Not *directly* related to australian politics, but I couldn't think of another place to post it. Is it worth a read?
https://www.austlit.edu.au/austlit/page/C57293
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Industrial_Prisoner
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 No.397685

>>397674
lmao he is from Queensland
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 No.397693

>>397674
>One of his classmates from high school, Jack, says Tor lacked social skills and "didn't know how to talk to people correctly … didn't really understand how people work."
What's up with autismos turning into fascists lmao
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 No.397772

>>397251
>>397364
Don't move to Tasmania, it's already too expensive for locals.

t.local
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 No.397774

>>397678
Looks interesting, but no idea where to get a copy :\
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 No.397800

>>397774
have you tried b-ok.global? there's also booko if you want to get a physical copy
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 No.397841

File: 1627104823064.mp4 ( 2.98 MB , 1024x576 , CNs_LockdownClash_2407_100….mp4 )

Anyone at the protests? They have overwhelmed the cops, it's epic.
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 No.397903

>>397841
Hardcore covid deniers are useful idiots for capital & in some cases outright CIA assets, being said I get the feeling more and more people turning up are workers shitscared of being reduced to poverty by our retarded comprador CIA occupation force masquerading as the "Australian federal government".

However real a danger covid is, siding with the police state against people who are terrified for legitimate, concrete material reasons (however mislead they are on the reality of the virus specifically) is terrible optics. The correct position for communists is to absolute reject & oppose repression and critically support the protests until the government provides a guaranteed income, universal for the duration of the pandemic, a rent moratorium along with federally funded bailout for landouts (fuck landlords but fuck making proles pay that shit off) & a solid program for guaranteed job security afterwards.

If the "federal government" cannot guarantee that NOBODY will fall through the cracks as a result of their ineptitude, resistance, however misguided, is entirely justified.
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 No.397970

>>397841
>>397903
They were not expecting the protests to be this big. Expect more protests because this has inspired them and it will make the covid situation worse forcing longer lockdowns.

It's not a march for covid-denialism. It's a march for freedom. If leftists want to join in, do so with masks and social distancing. You don't need to buy into the conspiracy theories to support protesting against lockdowns.
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 No.397982

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 No.397997

>>397970
its naive to think this wasn't an asio supported protest
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 No.398001

>>397903
Fuck it, let's start an argument: are anti-covid protests (directly or indirectly) praxis?
>useful case study for protest tactics
>anti-lib arguments
>'le BLM was better behaved'
>voluntary eugenics
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 No.398048

>>397685
his address was on kiwifarms at one point. about an hour away from me
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 No.398078

>>397800
It was there :D

Thank you m8y
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 No.398092

>>397970
>>397903
The people's anti-lockdown march
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 No.398107

Whats the story behind AUSCP and CPA split?
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 No.398131

>>398107
here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AustralianSocialism/comments/dk3jbx/can_someone_explain_the_cpaacp_split_for_me/
>TL;DR: youth faction of the CPA ran a Sydney soup kitchen that was blocked by many old heads in the CPA. An incident happened when these two forces confronted each other (both sides say they were assaulted). For the AUSCP, this was the straw that broke the camels back, so they spilt. For people who remain in the CPA, this was a rouge faction who flouted democratic centralism inevitably breaking off from the party.

I'm sure there are some acp-anons floating around here that can give their own insight.
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 No.398221

File: 1627133747060.mp4 ( 29.15 MB , 408x720 , DASH_720.mp4 )

>>398001
>useful case study for protest tactics
What we have learnt from this protest is wear a mask and don't post about it on social fucking media. In the past, the cops only arrested organisers and shit-stirers. This time around they will arrest almost everyone. The police minister says they expect 3500 people to be charged.

The cops are going through social media like they did for the Capitol Hill Riot. The reason they didn't use these tools against BLM or other protests is because this is the first protest in recent times in Australia that directly threatens the legitimacy of the state.

Anti-covid protests are praxis in that we should egg them on because it's a fight between our enemies and we want them to hurt each other as much as possible. It's bad optics and stupid for leftists to associate with anti-covid protests though.

>>397982
That photo was just good timing.
https://twitter.com/Makksproduction/status/1418850032212660225?s=20
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 No.400542

>>398221
lol at the plain clothes coppers getting people to back away

every time
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 No.402798

>W.W.F estimates 75% in Australian Koala population, 25% reduction in their viable habitat JUST WITHIN LAST THREE YEARS SINCE THE START OF THE 2019 BUSHFIRE SEASON.
>Australian government has lobbied the UN to postpone (see: kill) a motion to declare the great barrier reef to be critically in danger due to climate change.
>Retardo bizarro hippy NazBol rally in Sydney and Melbourne being handled so poorly by police has emboldened schizos, will probably cause more mass spreading events.
<ASX GREEN LINE STILL UP!
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 No.402800

>>402798
*
>75% drop in koala population
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 No.406007

>Labor’s capitulation on tax cuts shows the price it will pay to win power
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/27/labors-capitulation-on-tax-cuts-shows-the-price-it-will-pay-to-win-power
<next week on friendlyjordies
>here's why labor supporting the tax cuts isn't their fault and is actually a good thing
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 No.406331

>>406007
Scovid will win
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 No.406342

>>406331
to quote a normalfag: Labor don't have anyone to run against him.
How come western politicians suck at their job? Obama was great at being a president, I hate him but he was someone a normalfag could find likable and not demented or shrivelled.
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 No.406986

>>406342
>How come western politicians suck at their job?
Because they come exactly as that, politicians.
No one wants to vote for pollies, so they vote for pollies who pretend to be Fair Dinkum.
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 No.407254

>>406342
>How come western politicians suck at their job?
It makes them easier to get rid of, hence more vulnerable and easier to control.
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 No.408731

>>406342
Degeneracy of the bourgeoisie, exhaustion of their class energy. The strata which normally throw up political leaders are EXHAUSTED. For the really capable ones, the money's better in finance. For the really creative ones, they can use their status to go into the culture industry – but look, they're damn near exhausted there, consider the infinite Marvel-Starwars-Netflix treadmill where nobody is making any new culture either, they're just turning the handle endlessly. The same phenomenon repeats itself at every level, in Australia, America, the UK (Boris Johnson ffs). The bourgeoisie is exhausted, out of ideas, done with doing.

Trotsky writes about Kerensky, the bourgeois Russian leader post-February revolution, in his History of the Russian Revolution (I'm not a Trot but it's a good writeup):

>A good deal has been written to the effect that subsequent misfortunes, including the advent of the Bolsheviks, might have been avoided if instead of Kerensky a man of clear head and strong character had stood at the helm of the government. It is indubitable that Kerensky possessed neither of these attributes. But the question is, why did certain well defined social classes find themselves obliged to lift up just this man, Kerensky, upon their shoulders? … If Kerensky had possessed clear thoughts and a strong will, he would have been completely unfit for his historic rôle.
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 No.408888

We're all going to die in two years time! My last words will be: "fuck china for giving the world covid!"
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 No.408892

>>408888
Cringe GET.
I hope you die of COVID.
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 No.408893

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>>408888
I see them quads. What a waste.
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 No.408896

>>408888
bow before the red dragon kangaroouyghur
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 No.408898

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 No.408900

>>408888
>fuck china for giving the world covid
I'll just say "FUCK TRUMP FOR DESTROYING AMERICA THROUGHT COVID", "FUCK MODI FOR IGNORING COVID"

Had Li Wenliang been free they would suffer no problems tbh.
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 No.408907

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based red eurekas.

>The Nazis can chant Red Fascist and Maoist as much as they want; it's actions that are important, words mean little. If the Nazis from the National Alliance come out again from whatever sewer that spawned them, they'll cop more of what they got.
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 No.408984

Hopefully all the small businesses get destroyed
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 No.410095

This Delta is a Modi virus not a Chinese virus.
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 No.410261

>>408984
But then we'll just have fuckin oligarchs :\
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 No.410423

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>Pictured, Tony Abbott and Compatriots after returning from exile to lead the march on Sydney, Saturday August 1st 2021
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 No.410459

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Good afternoon uyghurs, who /wagecuck/ here
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 No.410467

>>410261
We already have fuckin' oligarchs. They're called the Federal government.
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 No.410553

>>402798
>Retardo bizarro hippy NazBol rally in Sydney and Melbourne
What the fuck are you talking about? Go back to high school.
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 No.410559

>>408900
>Had Li Wenliang been free they would suffer no problems tbh.
Can't tell if bait but this guy literally had no consequence on anything. Posting (technically false) information 12 hours earlier than when the news had started to report it wouldn't have done shit. "Li Wenliang = whistleblower" is laughable CIA-tier propaganda.
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 No.410563

>>410459
gdy
me
but only contract
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 No.410564

>>410553
It sounds like a chatbot that was trained on 4chan buzzwords malfunctioning.
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 No.411632

>>410563
I work for Kmart while studying part time
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 No.411714

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is there a more utterly dispiriting place than /r/ausfinance
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 No.411794

How do you get a job in Australia?

>>411714
Yes, the Whirlpool forums, where everybody makes $250k/year.
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 No.411893

>>411794
fucken beats me. i just graduated with a high gpa and good experience, but im getting kicked back everywhere
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 No.411922

>>411893
Are you a white male? That might be your problem.
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 No.412090

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>>411714
I have an even more beautiful one (old though)
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 No.412100

>>411893
>>411922
It appears you will have to become transhumanist
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 No.412765

>>353583
Ironic hearing a juchetard accuse others of LARP. The labor party and the institutionalised union movement attached to it were never socialist or revolutionary nor ever claimed to be. They made some progress in the class struggle very early on (such as the 8 hour day, which btw has been very much exaggerated – in fact it only covered a few narrow skilled or artisinal trades, and most ordinary wage labourers were still working for 10 hours a day or more for years afterwards), but as soon as labor got into power (1904) they introduced shit like compulsory arbitration, limiting the right to strike, and turning the unions from organs of class struggle into mediators of class collaboration. So it doesn't convince me when you say 'white nationalism is good actually, because laborites in 1890 were white nationalists'. Because laborites in 1890 were also liberal class collaborationists. And to reduce all the history of the different socialist and left-wing movements into just the large unions and the labor party is an insult to the actual communists and socialists that existed in those times. Also, recognising the adverse affects of immigration on wages etc does not have anything to do with being nationalist or 'pro-white'.
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 No.412772

>>412428
>G*ugh Wh*tlam
why censored? blackpill me on him
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 No.412776

>>412765
well said, the juchetard needs to brush up on his history and reevaluate his dogshit analysis
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 No.412779

https://www.miragenews.com/actu-throws-support-behind-locked-out-tasmanian-605722/
<ACTU throws support behind locked out Tasmanian McCain food workers
>The ACTU stands in solidarity with essential food workers at McCain in Tasmania who have been locked out of work for the second time in two weeks.

>The company have locked out their workers and stopped paying them despite no industrial action having been taken by the workers.
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 No.412790

>>412428
whinging pom alert: you say this, but your immigration categories are the shittest i.e. most strongly skill based in the anglosphere. it's unironically easier to get into NZ than to Australia if you don't have any actual skills. (NZ uses their immigration system as a subsidy for their unis, so if you got memed into doing something like a History degree you can always just do your masters there to make up the points you lost for not being a world leading mathematician or farmer with 5+ years of experience. Canada seemingly just lets everyone in. Britain's system seems similarly structured to Australia's, but with far more job categories for essentially unskilled humanities graduates.)
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 No.412889

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>>412765
>>412776

Where was I defending the labor party or claiming they were anything other than neolibs? I said pretty clearly that I'm going to waste my vote. If I did live in a marginal urban seat I'd probably prefer them, yes, although that is not out of sympathy of respect for them but for three reasons, one being their policy on China is less suicidal, two their pandemic response will likely be more competent and the final reason being their policy on the environment and particularly the Murray darling basin is better than outright CIA backed mafia rule which currently poses a near existential threat.

>So it doesn't convince me when you say 'white nationalism is good actually, because laborites in 1890 were white nationalists'


Never said this or anything remotely similar. You're just making stuff up.

>And to reduce all the history of the different socialist and left-wing movements into just the large unions and the labor party is an insult to the actual communists and socialists that existed in those times.


Where did I do this? Can you show me where I supposedly claimed that the labor party ever represented socialism?

>Also, recognising the adverse affects of immigration on wages etc does not have anything to do with being nationalist or 'pro-white'.


Nationalism =/= White nationalism and is in fact an antithesis of it in Australia. If we seriously want to combat white nationalism we need to construct a strong national identity separated from race, distinct from & not linked to angloism or Yankee-worship. I've been pretty clear about this in other threads, so again you're just making shit up for god knows what reason.

tl;dr -

You're either a troll or some dishonest drama-seeking retard. Either self-criticize & suck my Hwasong in repentance or deport yourself to Yankeestan so a human being with a functional brain can take your place.

Edit: Repost because relevant response pic
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 No.412893

>>412889
>Nationalism =/= White nationalism
Based, anybody who is opposed to "nationalism" and "national identity" by default is retarded
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 No.412904

>>412889
Think there was some shit imitating you who got their posts baleted m8
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 No.412920

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>>412893
>Based, anybody who is opposed to "nationalism" and "national identity" by default is retarded

They're just not thinking and stuck in a weird ultra-leftist mentality.

Lack of common groundedness & glue holding a people together will inevitability lead to rising of tribalism or Indian style communalism, whether it is around race/ethnicity, religion, consumer identity or whatever else.

If you want to avoid people chimping out over how un-melanated or melanated their genitals are then you have to be able to present a stronger, more unifying & more materially grounded form of common identity which solidarity can form around.

>>412904
Success breeds jealousy. If this is the case then bookanon is preemptively forgiven. Let none say that I am not a merciful despot.

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