[ home / overboard / sfw / alt / cytube] [ leftypol / b / WRK / hobby / tech / edu / ga / ent / music / 777 / posad / i / a / lgbt / R9K / dead ] [ meta ]

/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

"The anons of the past have only shitposted on the Internets about the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
Name
Email
Subject
Comment
Captcha
Tor Only
Flag
File
Embed
Password (For file deletion.)
Matrix   IRC Chat   Mumble
ReturnCatalogBottom

File: 1622326196194.jpg ( 109.75 KB , 960x540 , EwydAFdXMAgpQ8i.jpg )

 No.287321[View All]

Thread for the discussion of Anarchism.

Old one is full (>>139334)

Foundational texts:
>Alexander Berkman, ABCs of Anarchist-Communism
https://libcom.org/library/abc-anarchism-alexander-berkman
>Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-mutual-aid-a-factor-of-evolution
>Errico Malatesta, Anarchism and Organization
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-anarchism-and-organization
>More
https://libcom.org/library/anarchism-reading-guide

Contemporary theory:
>Tiqqun, This Is Not a Program
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/tiqqun-this-is-not-a-program
>Anonymous, Desert
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert

News:
>https://freedomnews.org.uk/
>https://anarchistnews.org/
>https://itsgoingdown.org
>https://enoughisenough14.org/
>https://sub.media/
280 posts and 64 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.
>>

 No.371257

Ultras are a cancer on the modern day socialist movement. Individualistic, idealistic, utopian nonsense.
>>

 No.374765

File: 1626188938881.jpg ( 18.65 KB , 413x395 , 083.jpg )

>>371257
>on the modern day socialist movement
the what now?
>>

 No.374775

>>371257
what are "ultras"
>>

 No.374831

>>352329
An Anarchist FAQ – it's super long but covers literally all the questions and also smears from authoritarian Marxists
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq
>>

 No.374848

>>374775
Football hooligans
>>

 No.374882

>>355410
>>355502
Stop this bookchinite nonsense. Social and individualist anarchism are one and the same.
>>

 No.380525

So just to be clear, nobody here is genuinely an anarchist, right? I know there are plenty of stupid people, but I’d like to think that people who browse leftypol are proles and not spoiled autistic troons with double digit IQs. Maybe I’m just being hopeful.
>>

 No.380530

>>380525
there are barely any transsexuals here
>>

 No.380556

>>380530
There should be zero. Threads like this attract the freaks
>>

 No.380579

>>380525
I sincerely jope the troons use your asshole like a fleshlight.
>>

 No.380581

>>380579
Fat chance, I’m armed and not afraid to gun down a mutant freak
>>

 No.380584

>>380581
>Muh guns
I know they say under no pretext, but I think we can make an exception for you.
>>

 No.380603

>>380584
Join the 41%, it’ll be a quicker death than bleeding out from gunshot wounds

Given that it’s been well established anarchists aren’t leftists in any sense, it only makes sense we turn this thread and future ones into designated anarchism cringe compilations. I think most people could get behind that
>>

 No.380609

>>380603
t. Some impotent sectarian dipshit who won’t advance a workers’ movement in their life.
>>

 No.380612

>>380603
>t. Impotent sectarian dipshit who will never be of any value to the workers’ movement.
>>

 No.380619

>>380609
Cope harder anarkiddie, your pathetic ideology will never work and your pasty asses will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>

 No.380639

File: 1626394812863.png ( 380.21 KB , 999x815 , 1620215131952.png )

>>380619
I’m a marxist, rapemeat. Utopian ultras be utopian ultras, but you’re just a bitter asshole. My two cents, you’d go out in a blaze of glory by some useless act of individual terrorist spectacle. And nothing of value will be lost.
>>

 No.380694

>>374882
>Stop this bookchinite nonsense.
This isn't a bookchinite take. You don't see Greek anarchists doing the same things as US anarchists, this comes down to a difference in ideology. The same applies to MLs, MLMs or eurocoms.
>>

 No.397183

>>287640
>Flawed as Anarchist Spain was, they exceeded the production of the Soviet Union
I would love some sources.
>>

 No.397383

>>299792
Demanding the Impossible is good, but I always have to recomend this Iaian McKay essay along with it, which debunks the stupid idea of Bakunin being a secret authoritarian that MLs often throw around.

http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarcho-bakunin-and-the-invisible-legions-revisited
>>

 No.398631

File: 1627147404096.jpg ( 52.13 KB , 640x480 , 6d68fcab0c228e3c776304dbe9….jpg )

What do anarchist think of gender roles? What if the sexes are considered equal but with different roles? Clearly it would have to be within the free will of someone who wanted to live with gender roles.
>>

 No.398658

>>398631
My honest answer is that I dont care what you do or dont do, if you believe in gender roles then go live according to them, if you dont thats fine too.
I just want to remove the gun from my back, whatever happens next is up to you as a person.

Gay, straight, queer, feminist, black, white, asian, its all theories or states of being that sound very fun, but I dont care about them and they hold no real importance whatsoever because nothing truly does, theres no universal rules, just people forcing it down with aggression.
>>

 No.398897

>>398658
>I just want to remove the gun from my back, whatever happens next is up to you as a person.
What do you mean by removing the gun from your back? Capitalism?
>>

 No.401867

I have a friend who says that you're not oppressed by the government because you have the "liberty" to do anything you want, even if it's illegal you can still do it without them stopping you at first, you will still get it done. What do you think of this?
>>

 No.401871

>>401867
sounds like a shitty argument
>>

 No.402958

>>401867
anon that's just stupid idk what to say
>>

 No.402972

>>401867
Show him this and tell us his reaction. If he tries to downplay it, or deflect you can tell him to take a long walk off a short pier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/read-the-document-domestic-violent-extremism-poses-heightened-threat-in-2021/06cde3f2-f811-4382-bde1-df97dcc97cf7/
>>

 No.403409

>>401867
only works once
>>

 No.404345

File: 1627359375395.jpg ( 75.62 KB , 453x645 , 1627359359471.jpg )

Who's the guy on the bottom right?
>>

 No.404366

>>398631
>What do anarchist think of gender roles?
Abolish. Treat everybody like a person, specifically the person they are since everyone's different.
>What if the sexes are considered equal but with different roles?
If individual people are different or differ according to larger trends, then treating them reasonably entails allowing differences of preference etc express themselves. Whatever differences there actually are will appear without any imposition from outside, and if the differences are only a product of the social context (and many of them are) then they can disappear.
>Clearly it would have to be within the free will of someone who wanted to live with gender roles.
This is verging on "what if the child consents tho?" levels of argument.
>>

 No.404605

>>398897
The state, there should be no means of someone enforcing his beliefs onto me, even capitalism is fine by me as long as I get to choose whether or not to partake. As long as the freedom of choice to live according to my own ideals exists, its not my problem how others want to live.
>>

 No.404671

>>404345
probably osugi sakae or hatta shuzo
>>

 No.405195

>>404366
>and if the differences are only a product of the social context (and many of them are) then they can disappear.
What do you mean by social context? like a product of gender culture?
>This is verging on "what if the child consents tho?" levels of argument.
Wow, what a connection to make. Maybe i should have specified that i was talking about adults here, although it should have been obvious. I was thinking of women who like being a mother, would they have the freedom to enjoy being mothers in an anarchist society or would they need to give that up because of some reason i don't know about?
>>

 No.405208

>>405195
>What do you mean by social context? like a product of gender culture?
Yes, something that's either socialized into people or only exists because of context, like other people's expectations of you (which are independent of how you personally are socialized)
>I was thinking of women who like being a mother, would they have the freedom to enjoy being mothers in an anarchist society or would they need to give that up because of some reason i don't know about?
That's not living within gender roles. That's just living as you please. Living within gender roles would be being coerced or forced to live a certain way, hence the comparison. It's just nonsensical.
>>

 No.405217

>>405208
>That's just living as you please. Living within gender roles would be being coerced or forced to live a certain way, hence the comparison.
I think my definition of gender roles maybe incorrect, i see genders roles or the culture of gender as part of biology of sex, motherhood and fatherhood. Both have what their biology lends themselves to without anyone forcing them to get a job or take care of children. Even though both parents need to eventually do each other's roles because they need to be flexible for the family.
>>

 No.407019

>>405217
Why are you so upset? Did someone hurt you? Did you even read my post? I made it clear from the start I think rigid definitions are silly. And as a Marxist we understand there are essential qualities to nothing.

I really don't understand what you are trying to accomplish with your weird passive-agressive comment.
>>

 No.407148

>>287439
>Tell me anarchists why are British anarchists so lame? I wanted to create some riot porn but all I got was a bunch crying people with green hair. Why is this?
You are talking about radlibs, you really have no clue what you are talking about. Chill out big guy.
Also it painfully obvious you are a very online person. Everything you know about this topic comes from Internet bullshit. You have never touched grass. Chinese people would laugh you out of the room. You have never touched grass.
采取不调查，没有发言权。闭嘴，小老外。
>>

 No.407468

anarchist more like gaynarchist
>>

 No.407492

>>407019
That's strange, i wasn't upset at all in my last post, nor was i trying to be passive aggressive. However that is the second time someone has asked me if i've been offended or hurt on a similar topic. I guess i have a lot of bitter feelings to feminism, but i am trying to become a leftist. Do you have any books you'd recommend for this?
>>

 No.407542

>>407148
The Chinese people would laugh off anarchists in general
>>

 No.407558

>>407542
The Chinese people would laugh off communists in general
>>

 No.407998

File: 1627516707113.gif ( 195.66 KB , 275x320 , a48.gif )

>>287332
I love techno-industrial
>>

 No.411731

File: 1627684760750.png ( 77.42 KB , 544x572 , 1d44cd0b3d5a2d9d1e4d42366d….png )

I don't know very much about communism and have only started reading about Anarchsim, but why are they so close to each other despite having some clearly opposing ideas to themselves?
>>

 No.411751

>>411731
They really are not that close ,you can get a screwed perspective from online leftism where people constantly act surprised that anarchists don't give critical support to their favorite tinfoil dictator or the people's police
>>

 No.412102

I'm not exactly sure if i can post this here, since it might just be disregarded as idpol, but what would be the anarchist solution to abortion? It sounds simple to say that it's within the freedom of the woman to abort, but isn't it also taking the freedom away from the fetus?
>>

 No.412403

>>412102
Anarchists are libs. They don't think that deeply about issues of choice. The liberal position is abortion good, so that is also the anarchist position.
>>

 No.412409

>>412403
>Thinking abortion has inherent class content
You should have been aborted for this post
>>

 No.413934

Are there any books specifically on idpol from an anarchist perspective?
>>

 No.414029

>>412403
Buddhist anarchist here: abortion is killing a living being and should be avoided as much as possible, but also allowed legally and with strong public programs that help to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place

Unique IPs: 31
[Return][Catalog][Top][Home][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[ home / overboard / sfw / alt / cytube] [ leftypol / b / WRK / hobby / tech / edu / ga / ent / music / 777 / posad / i / a / lgbt / R9K / dead ] [ meta ]
ReturnCatalogTopBottomHome