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 No.213976[Last 50 Posts]

Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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 No.291173

>>291103
Asymptomatic carriers and crowded enclosed spaces, with fake ventilation.
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 No.291178

>>291173
>with fake ventilation.
what is that
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 No.291288

I've been hearing that SARS-CoV-2 is lab made because it has a unique polybasic furin cleavage site.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7457603/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furin
>Furin is enriched in the Golgi apparatus, where it functions to cleave other proteins into their mature/active forms.[12] Furin cleaves proteins just downstream of a basic amino acid target sequence (canonically, Arg-X-(Arg/Lys) -Arg'). In addition to processing cellular precursor proteins, furin is also utilized by a number of pathogens. For example, the envelope proteins of viruses such as HIV, influenza, dengue fever, several filoviruses including ebola and marburg virus, and the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2,[13][14] must be cleaved by furin or furin-like proteases to become fully functional. Anthrax toxin, pseudomonas exotoxin, and papillomaviruses must be processed by furin during their initial entry into host cells. Inhibitors of furin are under consideration as therapeutic agents for treating anthrax infection.[15]

Now I haven't been in the biolab in about 5 years but If I remember correctly saying that SARS-CoV-2 has this furin cleavage that is not found in RatG13 or WIV2(which are bat and pangolin viruses), but is found in MERS(camel covid from2014), and HIV, flu, dengue, etc; is it not literally saying it is capable of infecting humans and this is the mechanism and nothing else? It says nothing about whether it was man made whatsoever.

The furin cleavage is what lets it infect people. If it didn't have that it humans wouldn't be able to get or carry it. It can be dropped through natural mutation, like it did in MERS, which is how MERS gained human infection. This is a huge nothingburger that amounts to "Covid infects people" aka "polysyllabic words of distraction".
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 No.291300

I've been arguing with libs and they have completed a new defense.

<In International affairs, the accused is assumed guilty until proven innocent, especially if its China. We are not in a court of law and those standards are not applied to nations, only individuals.


What the fuck is this garbage?
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 No.291302

>>290878
>>290805
I thought Land was pro-China? Is this article anti-China?
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 No.291344

>>291178
It's when you circulate air in a loop, instead of as an in and out flow.
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 No.291378

>>291300
Western liberals correctly identify the rise of China as a threat to the West's way of life, so instead of supporting the only country where the "middle class" is growing, they are hostile to it, and drum up excuses to continue being hostile to it.

Call out their complaints as horseshit excuses to try to impede China's rise, that their fat, undeserved lifestyles on the backs of the third world slave labour are not long for this world, that they will be the sweatshop labour for China in the future, then say that they don't even have the strength or the balls to stop China, even if they tried to, so why bother stirring shit up, then watch the libs go full fascist.
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 No.292101

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Who here /DeltaKappa/?

Finally part of a sorority without cashing out any money
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 No.292167

>>292162
I have a job, lol
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 No.292299

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Israel sees probable link between Pfizer vaccine and myocarditis cases

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-probable-link-between-pfizer-vaccine-small-number-myocarditis-cases-2021-06-01/

>Israel's Health Ministry said on Tuesday it had found the small number of heart inflammation cases observed mainly in young men who received Pfizer's (PFE.N) COVID-19 vaccine in Israel were likely linked to their vaccination.


>Most patients who experienced heart inflammation spent no more than four days in the hospital and 95% of the cases were classified as mild, according to the study, which the ministry said was conducted by three teams of experts.


>The study found "there is a probable link between receiving the second dose (of Pfizer) vaccine and the appearance of myocarditis among men aged 16 to 30," it said in a statement. According to the findings, such a link was observed more among men aged 16 to 19 than in other age groups.
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 No.292921

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/mrna-technology-pioneer-says-covid-19-vaccinated-people-can-shed-spike-protein-twitter-says-delete-this-1809062-2021-05-31

>For those unaware, Luigi Warren is the current President and CEO of Cellular Reprogramming, Inc, a biotechnology firm based in California. More importantly, Luigi is renowned for his work with Derrick Rossi, the co-founder of the famous biotechnology company Moderna.


>Luigi Warren tweeted that people vaccinated with mRNA-based vaccine can shed spike proteins.

>He added that this shedding is in minuscule amounts and hence cannot harm anyone.
>Twitter has suspended his account on accounts of the tweet violating Twitter Rules.
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 No.292930

>>291300
Well, the U.S. is guilty of countless war crimes, deaths, and flagrant international law violations, until proven innocent.
I am not sure how they exercise shit people can use against them.
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 No.292959

>>291344
I want to correct you, by adding that the air can be in a loop, and be safe if it is filtered. In hospitals and clinics (depending on the regulation) is mandatory that the air is recirculated (through forced air blow/suction a.k.a. air compressors doing the job) + filtered (and in some instances, placed under 21°C to reduce bacteria reproduction).

t. ME with basic knowledge in air conditioning for medical and industrial processes.
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 No.295149

>>295143
>>294826

This is the most suspicious thing ever before the outbreak. What was that disease and why it wasn't made public?
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 No.295165

>>295149
mostly like pneumonia but they ought to check
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 No.295171

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>>295165
>mostly like pneumonia
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 No.313305

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>>313174
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7812660/
>Coronaviruse(s) are important human and animal pathogens and contain an extraordinarily long (27-31 kb) RNA genome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus
>The genome size of coronaviruses ranges from approximately 26 to 32 kilobases, one of the largest among RNA viruses.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7112330/
>Coronaviruses are large,
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 No.314551

>>313174
I literally have no idea what he's trying to tell us using his demonic bioinformatics jargon.
Wtf is ID rotation?
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 No.314821

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>>314551
https://med.unr.edu/internal-medicine/residency/curriculum/infectious-diseases

>The infectious disease rotation is a required rotation primarily available for all residents. Because the practice of internal medicine requires a broad knowledge base of infectious disease, acquiring fundamental skills in evaluating and managing patients in the causes of fever are critical.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction
PCR lets you rapidly copy DNA to make it bigger so its easy to analyze. Multiplex means you can do different samples at once.

translation
<"When I, a doctor, am working on Infections Diseases the multiplex Polymerase Chain Reaction machine says that it detected a really big virus DNA. It was so big that it set off the alarm for "as big as coronavirus", which is pretty big. Its not SARS-1. It wasn't a false positive because it happened more than once. Me an anonymous doctor is posting this on 4chan and I know people will freak out if im vague but I will get (yous).

>Oct 2019


I remember a wave of these types of posts on /pol/ in November. They were hyping up Ebola and trying to meme magic by worshipping ebola-chan. People were meming an ethnic bioweapon that only kills whites/asians. The first posts of SARS-CoV-2 were Jan 21 2020.
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 No.314875

>>314859
Shut the fuck up, retard.
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 No.327464

Can someone fill me in on the places where the oldest COVID samples found yet?
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 No.330735

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>>327617
based and vaxpilled, thank you
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 No.330914

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<BREAKING NEWS: The efficacy of the Cuban vaccine candidate Abdala, with three doses, is 92.28%. We have another vaccine in #CubaFlag of Cuba!
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 No.332466

>>330914
Soberana, la cubana… ¡SOBERANA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFNirVwPCMg
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 No.335550

>>272052
Isn't it interesting how I get banned for a month for questioning the fascist lockdown yet people can post fascist muck about bankers doing communism and get away scot free.
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 No.335580

>>335550
You were denying the whole damn pandemic, from what I remember.
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 No.335817

>>335580
Still am.
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 No.336398

>>335817
<Still am.
See you next month I guess.
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 No.337533

>Ctrl+F "delta"
>only one result
>thread is mostly leninhat bickering
And you still think commies are any better than /pol/fags?
Anyway, I'll forgive you if someone tells me if the new WSWS is accurate
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/06/24/pers-j24.html
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 No.337553

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TEL AVIV—About half of adults infected in an outbreak of the Delta variant of Covid-19 in Israel were fully inoculated with the Pfizer Inc. vaccine, prompting the government to reimpose an indoor mask requirement and other measures to contain the highly transmissible strain.
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 No.337559

>>337553
sounds like the vax is pointless
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 No.337581

>>337533
Pretty much. They got vaccines, time to open up. Oops, new strain is resistant? We'll just ignore it.

Reminder India healthcare system collapsed and they were burning bodies en masse, and it's been a month since we were given an update.
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 No.337871

Why is RT pushing anti-vaxx stuff so hard? Is it to boost Sputnik?
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 No.338052

>>337559
I thought it worked against delta, at least for the not dying part.
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 No.338150

>>337553
>Delta variant can reinfect vaxxed people
<There's already Delta plus around
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 No.338193

>>338150
Um, its called a business model sweaty.
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 No.339019

>>338052
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/15/the-covid-delta-variant-how-effective-are-the-vaccines

>According to figures gathered by Public Health Scotland and published in the Lancet, at least two weeks after the second dose of Covid jabs, protection against infection fell from 92% for the Alpha variant to 79% against the Delta variant for the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, while for the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine the protection fell from 73% to 60% respectively.


>Protection against symptomatic disease has also been found to differ depending on the variant.


>According to the latest figures from Public Health England (PHE), four weeks after one dose, either vaccine offered almost 50% protection against the Alpha variant. However for the Delta variant this protection was lower, with one dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech jab offering about 36% protection against symptomatic disease. For one dose of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine this figure was about 30%.


>Two weeks after the second dose, the differences in vaccine effectiveness by variant were more modest, with the Pfizer/BioNTech jab offering 88% protection against symptomatic disease with the Delta variant, compared with 94% protection against the Alpha variant. For the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, the figures were 67% and 74% respectively.


>According to PHE: “Further work remains under way to establish the level of protection against mortality from the Delta variant. However, as with other variants, this is expected to be high.”


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01358-1/fulltext
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 No.339047

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 No.339048

Who the fuck here watches MSNBC?
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 No.339050

>>338193
So is misspelling sweetie as sweaty intentional?
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 No.339052

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>>339048
Listen buddy trust the expert who won't disclose his ties on tv.
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 No.339055

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EXPERTS
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 No.339066

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wow!
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 No.339069

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https://youtu.be/HJrUaaXtJuM

Don't worry the PFIZER shot is safe for your teenager because EXPERT Scott gottlieb said so on the tv honey
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 No.339070

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Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, please send Sinovacc and Sputnik V, my people yearn to be free from the virus. The U.S. may attempt to prevent entry but you have my permission to open fire.
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 No.339072

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https://www.cnbc.com/video/2021/06/11/former-fda-chief-scott-gottlieb-on-post-vaccine-heart-inflammation-symptoms.html

No worries folks! The heart inflammation isn't as a big of deal as we thought! EXPERT Scott gottlieb is here to explain why PFIZER isn't that bad for your heart.
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 No.339073

I'm merging this into the covid thread
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 No.339075

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 No.339081

>>339072
They did say that he serves on the boards of both Pfizer and Alumina.
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 No.339087

>>339081
>>339081

Average viewer won't even notice that but nonetheless you are correct. I believe someone with roles like that should never be allowed to advise people. Theres no way for them to be unbiased.

Pharma reps should be banned from medical advice
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 No.339115

>>339087
The problem of bourgeois platforming other bourgeois and pushing something in concert runs deeper than someone at the top of a research organization saying something biased.

Memelords and dorks being at the top and talking plainly/mad shit about their own product/service is only reserved for vidya, and even then, it's rare.
https://youtu.be/4JWAIqSosNk&t=90
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 No.342532

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 No.343346

>The Make-A-Wish foundation has announced dying kids must have a covid vaccine in order to receive their wish.
this is simply hilarious
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 No.343365

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-06-27/did-covid-come-from-a-lab-scientist-at-wuhan-institute-speaks-out

Half-truths and distorted information have obscured an accurate accounting of the lab's functions and activities, which were more routine than how they’ve been portrayed in the media, she said.

“It’s not that it was boring, but it was a regular lab that worked in the same way as any other high-containment lab,” Anderson said. “What people are saying is just not how it is.”

Anderson said no one she knew at the Wuhan institute was ill toward the end of 2019. Moreover, there is a procedure for reporting symptoms that correspond with the pathogens handled in high-risk containment labs.

“If people were sick, I assume that I would have been sick—and I wasn’t,” she said. “I was tested for coronavirus in Singapore before I was vaccinated, and had never had it.”
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 No.343371

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>>339072
Shit, I took the first shot of Pfizer. How fucked am I bros?
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 No.343381

>>343371
Are you under 18? If so, why are you on this website? If not, you'll be fine.
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 No.343635

>>343381
I'm in my 20's. Just starting to feel stupid for having taken a rushed vaccine. It was supposed to be completely safe and now we already have a Pfizer porky telling us that heart innflamation is a nothing-burger. Like I'm supposed to trust a pharma porky.
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 No.343807

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 No.343927

>>232938
I am, and I find the disparaging remarks here quite hurtful.

I have an autoimmune disease, I'd probably relapse if I caught Covfefe-19, so yeah, I'm vaxxed.
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 No.351420

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https://web.archive.org/web/20210701233634/https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/01/covid-perfect-storm-as-more-patients-hit-by-fungal-infections

>Scientists now say concerning reports of other fungal infections, caused by pathogens including Aspergillus and Candida auris, have emerged in hospitalised Covid patients. In particular, the common fungal infection aspergillosis, often seen in combination with the flu, has been observed in critically ill Covid patients globally, from the US to the UK, France, Pakistan and India.
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 No.351568

Anyone know where to find critical information about the vaccines? I'm almost clueless about them and internet searching only shows porky shills.
I'm not talking about conspiracy shit, just actual founded information by merited professionals instead of the big pharma eXpErT talking shit, which is seemingly so rare
There has to be some outlet or site compiling this stuff, like 'VaccineWatch' or something… right
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 No.351610

Epsilon variant just dropped.
Potentiallly stronger than Delta…
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 No.351612

>>351568
Yeah that's the thing. It's difficult to distinguish between genuine economic, social and scientific critic of the vacccine (especially western ones) and the bottom feeders grifters that try to make a carreer out of alienated people with bullshit that they may or may not believe themselves.
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 No.351617

>>351610
>Epsilon (CAL.20C) was first observed in July 2020 by researchers at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, California, in one of 1,230 virus samples collected in Los Angeles County since the start of the COVID-19 epidemic.
Old news
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 No.351628

>>343635
it actually is a nothingburger. It's a very low rate of occurrence, and it's still less deadly than getting COVID.
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 No.351631

>>351617
prepare fur ze cyber pandemik
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 No.351634

one week to cyber polygon…
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 No.352003

>>343635

Bro i want to vaccinate but im terrified of taking anything by big pharma porkies. I know the kind of lies and shit they pull, they even shipped out contaminated shit purposefully in the past so why the fuck would i trust them.

I wish they had the cuban vaccine here or something, id take that any day over pfizer
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 No.352022

>>352003
<getting a rushed vaccine for a virus with a 99.9% survival rate
<trusting big pharma, the US government and big business
no thanks
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 No.352033

What are the chances of another lockdown because of the delta variant?

Seems porky is desperate to open up, but another lockdown would be based in destroying burgerland economy more
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 No.352047

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>>352033
>Seems porky is desperate to open up
>another lockdown would be based in destroying burgerland economy

another lockdown is just forcing more money out of working class areas into the hands of porky
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 No.352152

>>352047
If you think this is a good thing for capitalism you fundamentally misunderstand capitalism.
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 No.352455

>>352152
plenty of the bourgeois love shutdowns
I'm sure all tech companies would love another year of lock downs
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 No.353635

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On a recent Sunday night at Le Bilboquet, a see-and-be-seen restaurant in the Hamptons, well-heeled diners nibbled on $475 tins of Osetra caviar. A handsome man showed off his gold Audemars Piguet watch to his sparkly female companion. A party of 10 in polo shirts and striped rompers danced to a tropical house remix of Tina Turner’s “What’s Love Got to Do With It.”
They were all unmasked, while the waiters, bartenders and other servers kept their mouths and noses covered.
A similar scene unfolded at the Gucci store in East Hampton, where shoppers removed their masks upon reading the door sign stating that vaccinated customers could enter without face coverings. Inside, they were attended to by store clerks in blue-and-white surgical masks, per company policy.
In the weeks since the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention revised its mask guidelines to allow fully vaccinated people to take their masks off in most indoor settings, a stark divide has emerged, particularly in wealthier enclaves where services are at a premium.
Those who are still wearing masks tend to be members of the service class — store clerks, waiters, janitors, manicurists, security guards, receptionists, hair stylists and drivers — while those without face coverings are often the well-to-do customers being wined and dined.
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 No.353697

>>352455
>my side of the boat is 200 feet in the air!
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 No.354000

>>352455
Yes, many of the major bourgeoisie were in favor of shutdowns because they didn't want a long drawn out thing that would massively fuel class antagonism the way this has gone. They wanted this because it would be better for long term stability and they could afford to simply tank it by being as big as they are and keep demanding bailout money whenever things got dire. This would have screwed over many of the petty bourgs who were the ones most vehemently against any kind of lockdown. The workers, for their part, would have preferred to stay home and get paid to stay there, but without any kind of payment, the choice was work or starve, so the only choice was to continue to work.

The main reason they benefitted is because that's simply how capitalism is set up, they were able to continue to take in money while having reduced operating expenses, monopolization, and massive inventory sell-off for a while. The problem is this quickly results in liquidity crisis and longer-term deep instabilities.

Capitalism fundamentally requires GROWTH in the economy, and the bourgeoisie to be able to have the lion's share of that GROWTH. They aren't going to keep the economy underwater if they can avoid it, but if you're something that needs to die so the rest of the organism can live, guess what they're sacrificing.
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 No.354483

>>354000
>Yes, many of the major bourgeoisie were in favor of shutdowns because they didn't want a long drawn out thing that would massively fuel class antagonism the way this has gone
because shutdowns created massive profits for tech companies.

>This would have screwed over many of the petty bourgs who were the ones most vehemently against any kind of lockdown

which it did, another reason why massive corporations loved the shut downs, it help squeeze out competition

>Capitalism fundamentally requires GROWTH in the economy, and the bourgeoisie to be able to have the lion's share of that GROWTH. They aren't going to keep the economy underwater if they can avoid it, but if you're something that needs to die so the rest of the organism can live, guess what they're sacrificing.

if you think that I said that the bourgeois want a constant, never ending lockdown you're completely wrong.
I was demonstrating how your statement
<Seems porky is desperate to open up a lockdown would destroy the economy
is the opposite of reality
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 No.354502

>>354483
>is the opposite of reality

Well it’s hard to say, big booj have made short term profits off supply shortages and raising prices due to inflation, but they also know that fundamentally their whole system is at risk if they continue letting things go as they are. They’ve inundated the economy with dollars and know everyone is spending themselves into a debt crisis, the whole market has gone haywire. They also need their workers back under surveillance and want the lockdown to end because their cash reserves wont mean anything if their system collapses. Many of the impacted nontech booj are facing rising costs of production meanwhile the tech booj is benefitting from the lockdown.
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 No.354503

>>232938
Hello fellow chad
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 No.354522

>>354483
>value isn't created by labour
>workers staying idle at home will not destroy the economy
Shut the fuck up, retard.
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 No.354523

>>354483
Are you just completely incapable of understanding the concept that short term profits can happen at the long-term expense of a society?
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 No.354524

>>354502
sounds like you're trying to avoid admitting you were wrong
kek
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 No.354527

>>354522
are you able to make a counter argument about something I actually said or is le epic maymay tell all you're capable of?
>>354523
>Are you just completely incapable of understanding the concept that short term profits can happen at the long-term expense of a society?
when did anything I say contradict that?
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 No.354529

>>354527
Your dogshit "argument" rests on denial of LTV, and can be (and has been) dismissed outright.
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 No.354560

>>354529
>Your dogshit "argument" rests on denial of LTV
what are you so worked up about? can you point specifically where this is? You're not really being coherent
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 No.354590

>>353635
it's because you can't eat through a mask, retard.
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 No.354599


>>353635
>Those who are still wearing masks tend to be members of the service class — store clerks, waiters, janitors, manicurists, security guards, receptionists, hair stylists and drivers — while those without face coverings are often the well-to-do customers being wined and dined.

not much of a "service class" thing as much as it is people at work vs costumers.
I'm not rich but I don't wear a mask when I go into regular stores either
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 No.354606

>>354483
Do we critically support petty booj struggle against tech booj?
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 No.354609

>>354524
No because they might want the lockdown to continue for short term profits, but it would still destroy the economy in the near long term. the acceleration could cause revolution and the banks are already afraid and talking about how capitalism might be threatened
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 No.354610


>>354609
>No because they might want the lockdown to continue for short term profits
this is what I said originally

>but it would still destroy the economy in the near long term

doubtful either way you can't really prove that.
also "destroy the economy" is vague
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 No.354611

>>354606
what does this have to do with anything in my post?
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 No.354617

>>354610
> doubtful either way you can't really prove that.
also "destroy the economy" is vagu

Any economic or market crash directly destroys their market cap and valuations and subsequently profits. Right now booj is happy because their investors are bored and pouring money in. When the train stops they will get wrecked and they know it’s coming because every little talk of inflation or the train stopping sends people reeing. They’re on thin as fuck ice and they know it, they started the money printer before covid and covid lockdowns only made that worse. They’re reaching the point of no return so another lockdown wouldn’t be in their best interests. Booj goes a lot deeper than tech booj you know. If they wanted the lockdowns to continue we wouldnt have had vaccines so fucking fast
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 No.354686

>>354606
No, petty booj worst booj

The natural direction of capitalism is to have all the small businesses destroyed anyway
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 No.354748


>>354617
>Any economic or market crash directly destroys their market cap and valuations and subsequently profits

"destroy" is being used very losely here I see.

>When the train stops they will get wrecked

care to elaborate?

>it’s coming because every little talk of inflation or the train stopping sends people reeing

an bit of increased inflation then expected isn't a big price to pay when you have the gains tech companies did last year.

>They’re reaching the point of no return

doubtful. do you have any backing for that?
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 No.357099

Uhhhh. Russians? Putin?

Russia Reports Record COVID Deaths for Fifth Straight Day

>Russia on Saturday reported 697 Covid-19 deaths in the previous 24 hours, the fifth straight day the country has set a new record as it battles the surging Delta variant. It also recorded 24,439 new coronavirus infections, the highest figure since the middle of January when Russia was emerging from its second wave of the pandemic.


https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/07/03/russia-reports-record-covid-deaths-for-fifth-straight-day-a74417
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 No.357129

>>357099
54% of people in Russia will not get the vaccine because they believe in conspiracy theories. https://www.levada.ru/2021/07/05/koronavirus-privivki-i-obyazatelnaya-vaktsinatsiya/
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 No.357133

>>357129
pretty based honestly
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 No.357143

>>357129
I knew it was pretty high but not over 50%. Damn.

>>357133
>dying
>based

Why?
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 No.357144

>>354610
>doubtful either way you can't really prove that.
>also "destroy the economy" is vague
yes, my friend, the tech booj are capable of weaving magic that enables hundreds of millions of people to continue to consume society's products at an extremely inflated rate while production has been cut by half. that's just pure bourgeois magic, no reason to ask how this works out long term.
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 No.357154

>>357143
based for not getting the vaccine retard
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 No.357156

>>357144
>yes, my friend, the tech booj are capable of weaving magic that enables hundreds of millions of people to continue to consume society's products at an extremely inflated rate while production has been cut by half. that's just pure bourgeois magic, no reason to ask how this works out long term
you're just deflecting at this point
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 No.357157

>>357156
That you claim that society could continue to function indefinitely despite huge sectors being shut down and taking in massive losses is so absurd that you don't deserve to be taken seriously.
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 No.357160

>>357157
>That you claim that society could continue to function indefinitely despite huge sectors being shut down and taking in massive losses is so absurd that you don't deserve to be taken seriously.
funny because I don't remember ever saying that
You're arguing against points no one has made
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 No.357181

>>357154
Uhhh. People are dying due to the delta variant.

Why would it be based not to be vaccinated?
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 No.357204

>>357181
because its mainly fear mongering
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 No.357229

>>357181
Not being vaccinated stops the alien mind rays from infultrating ur brain cells.

You can also wear a tin foil hat around everywhere for extra protection.
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 No.357279

>>357129
good, less christians is what this planet needs
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 No.357612

>>357204
>>357229

My biggest concern with the vaccine is that they actually make vaccination passports a real thing and other people gatekeeper tactics not related to the science of health care. I get where you are coming from somewhat but I genuinely don't want people just dying off due to anti-vaxxer self determination bullshit. That is just brainlet shit.
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 No.357667

>>357129
Excellent news, seems the descendants of October haven't forgotten their freedoms.
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 No.357669

>>353635
It's telling how all the rich cretins don't wear masks. They know it's bullshit.
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 No.357922

>>357612
vaccine passports are cringe thankfully there are plenty of people against it its only likely to happen in liberal shit holes

>I genuinely don't want people just dying off due to anti-vaxxer self determination bullshit

the response to covid has been worse then the disease itself
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 No.358045

>>357922
>the response to covid has been worse then the disease itself
t. store owner
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 No.358055

Pfizer's shitty vaccine isn't performing as well against the Delta variant. Since there's SOME amount of disease getting through, we're almost guaranteed to see COVID mutate into a vaccine-resistant variant.
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 No.358583

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so wtf, should I skip the second pfizer dose?
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 No.358586

>>358045
Critical support to COVID19 in its struggle against the petit bourgeoisie
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 No.358606

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 No.358609

>>358045
.t porky
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 No.359256

https://www.rt.com/news/528451-pfizer-loses-effectiveness-israel/

Lmao its possible herd immunity will never happen. Based Coronachan will last forever
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 No.359328

>>358609
>small business owners aren't porky
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 No.359755

>>359328
Hi pol
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 No.359912

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>>358045
dude fuck you, even if you think covid is a serious virus (the data doesn't bear that out but w/e) the response has totally focused on fucking over the working class
the homeless population in my town has fucking skyrocketed even with the eviction moratorium. our local library was closed for several months meaning all the groups that met there were postponed indefinitely and poor people weren't able to access the computer lab. all the "progressive" religious organisations closed as well; in fact, some of them still haven't reopened. not to mention people being forced to wear useless masks on public transport and during 8+ hour shifts at jobs that already pay shit
as someone in my 20s I've been much more afraid of killing myself out of social isolation and propaganda overwhelm this past year than some stronger than normal flu (which is what covid is, 0.15% IFR as opposed to 0.1). I'm an autistic recovering alcoholic so it isn't like I could just go to the bars - even if they were open
this whole thing is a psychological operation designed to pave the way for totalitarian global technocracy; I will never get the vaccine, not just because because it's unnecessary, but also because anyone who trusts the western media at this point hasn't been paying attention for the past, I don't know, century. they lied us into every war with some false flag or another (uss maine, the lusitania, pearl harbour, gulf of tonkin, and most recently, 9/11) but I'm sure they're telling the truth this time lmao
the gullibility of the online left, combined with its smug condescension towards anyone who dares question the mainstream liberal bureaucratic narrative of covid, has truly shocked me. I work at a gas station in the ghetto and I can tell you right now you've permanently alienated a lot of the working class with this bullshit. many of my customers resent the ongoing restrictions and believe this is exaggerated if not an outright hoax
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 No.359938

>>357129
>The respondents of the age groups 18-24 and 40-54 (27% each) are most willing to be vaccinated, the least of all - the respondents 25-39 - 22% are ready
54% of Russians are not ready to get vaccinated against coronavirus is just "not ready" not they won't.
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 No.359941

>>357129
This is the actual part you should include:
>Among those who are not ready to get vaccinated, 41% are not going to get it under any circumstances
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 No.360182

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202107/1227825.shtml
>Exclusive: Western scientists face government probe, death threats for opposing COVID-19 lab-leak theory: source
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 No.360783

>>359912
You're an idiot and so are your customers.
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 No.360843

>>359912
Based post Comrade Anprim!

>>360783
Go back to CNN/MSNBC/Daily Kos or whatever Liberal Democrat rag you crawled out of, LOL.
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 No.360914

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>>357922
>>359912
NICE ONE BOSS!
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 No.361003

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>>360783
>t. PMC coastal liberal larping as a revolutionary
>>360843
thanks thought you were banned
>>360914
I desire the fall of capitalism more than those of you willing to concede dictatorial powers to bourgeois states and supranational bodies like the WHO and WEF over a flu virus. if anyone is disguising their intentions at securing superior positions in the current order off the backs of the proles, it's y'all

in this case you're pandering for bourgeois legitimacy rather than trying to climb the ladder, unless you're one of those rare workers who genuinely benefitted from the destruction of the labour market. but that doesn't change the fact that your response to a capitalist crisis (of economy and legitimacy) is to take the side of the status quo rather than the masses of people who are finally waking up to the slave-making realities of the ongoing fourth industrial revolution

silicon valley is censoring nationalists and so-called conspiracy theorists on its platforms rn not out of some real concern for the corrosive effects of their rhetoric - the mainstream media has done more than anyone else to sow division since 9/11. Rather, the haute bourgeois interests big tech represents see questioning global government corruption and demanding autonomy from capitalist monoculture / consensus reality as genuine threats to their continued power

remember, biden's war on domestic terrorism isn't just targeting the wignats, they're just the socially acceptable scapegoat. leftists, natural medicine enthusiasts, and black nationalists like farrakhan are being censored off the internet too

sorry for reddit spacing my last post was hard to read
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 No.361533

It seems there's a new variant around called Lambda and i have read unconfirmed rumors of it being stronger than Delta.
Is this true? Is the vaccine BTFO?
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 No.361561

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oh geez oh fuck leftybros we got too cocky
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 No.361610

>>361003
You're a fucking moron. Please get the coof.
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 No.361625

>>359912
>the gullibility of the online left, combined with its smug condescension towards anyone who dares question the mainstream liberal bureaucratic narrative of covid, has truly shocked me. I work at a gas station in the ghetto and I can tell you right now you've permanently alienated a lot of the working class with this bullshit. many of my customers resent the ongoing restrictions and believe this is exaggerated if not an outright hoax
100% this.
Anyone who actually thinks there is popular support for this shit at this point is fucking delusional.
75% of people i interact with IRL have completely tuned out of the media and like you said either are just despondent and dont care anymore and believe this is being exaggerated or think its a conspiracy by the NWO to murder everyone.

There is a partiuclar British subplebbit which claims to be for 'general leftist discussion' and so forth.
As of today they literally have as their pinned post a link to a petition to stop a bill banning protests being passed.
The 'hottest' post right below that is tsk tsk'ing people for not wearing masks and going outside and calling Boris Johnson a murderer for lifting the lockdown

>this whole thing is a psychological operation designed to pave the way for totalitarian global technocracy

Pretty much.
The entire point is to obliterate the Petite-bourgeoisie and then take advantage of the resulting Social-Crisis (Millions upon millions of people made redundant if not outright homeless or socially-murdered) to present literal Bengali factory floor 'piece rate' economies as a solution where everyone is having to do five fucking jobs on some app on their phone where their paid by the 'gig' just to keep fuel in their car to keep answering more jobs.
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 No.361709

>>361625
The big bourgeoisie is using the virus crisis to fuck over the petit bourgeoisie, but that doesn't mean the virus shit isn't real.

If you like to find a conspiracy, then figure out why the pandemic warnings were ignored. Yes, there were detailed warnings about a likely corona virus outbreak, years ago, from multiple sources. You know what the Neo-liberals did with that information, they cut healthcare budgets. They don't have to fake a crisis, because those arise naturally, and they just don't do anything to prevent it because it's an opportunity to implement shock doctrine.

When you combine things that are true like the ruling class doing power consolidation during the pandemic, with something that is demonstrably wrong, like pretending this virus was not killing hoards of people. You make it harder to point the finger at the ruling class for their power abuses. Because they can paint critics as science deniers.

Half truths are the worst.
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 No.361730

>>361709
>Yes, there were detailed warnings about a likely corona virus outbreak, years ago, from multiple sources
SARS, Swine Flu, West Nile, Zika, there were all kinds of warnings, with experts saying again and again that it was only a matter of time before something like covid happened. Then it did, and then the bourgeoisie publicly fought against doing anything, criticized anyone that spoke up, and told the public that it was nothing to worry about, while privately warning their donors and dumping/buying stock to enrich themselves.

The idea that this was all some master plan to screw the working class is retarded though. It's the most desperate cope possible to try and make believe that this was all according to keikaku when all the evidence points to a massive clusterfuck of conflicting bourgeois priorities and incompetence at every level.
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 No.361731

>>361625
sick as i am of this bullshit, it's pure opportunism to jump on the "oh it's all a hoax, fuck it, let's just open up" bandwagon. even if you take the view that we should just say fuck it and let a bunch of people die, that's not a view it's helpful to associate with when one can subsequently use the number of deaths as an attack line once everything is over.

boris johnson is a murderer, the UK's coronavirus response is without a doubt the worst in the world. it's all fun and games getting pissy about the state of affairs from sunny australia (where the restrictions in some areas like SA, Tas, WA are basically nothing), try living in this grey and rainy shithole stuck in the house all day or occasionally buggering about on your phone when you go to a cafe with your group of 2 friends who legally really ought to be from the same household, most wider/more popular events still being cancelled, delayed, downscaled and so on just because an island - i say again - a fucking island - couldn't figure out how to not let the plague in.

>>361709
based
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 No.361747

it's the ruling class that is fighting lockdowns and quarantines not working people

the idea that this is some attempt to implement NWO is stupid. look around. there are no restrictions in burgerland at least
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 No.361876

>>361747
What's up, just saw the delta variant is rampaging through the states. How are other countries dealing with it? I don't see lockdown 2 happening. How bad is the labor shortage and supply chain fuck ups going to be when another 1 million are taken out the labor force and 10 million are self quarantining?
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 No.361885

>>361709
>something that is demonstrably wrong, like pretending this virus was not killing hoards of people. You make it harder to point the finger at the ruling class for their power abuses. Because they can paint critics as science deniers.
stats inflated thanks to faulty PCR tests and protocol aside, the estimated IFR doesn't support the assertion that the virus is particularly deadly
>>361730
>told the public that it was nothing to worry about, while privately warning their donors and dumping/buying stock to enrich themselves
exactly
>all the evidence points to a massive clusterfuck of conflicting bourgeois priorities and incompetence at every level
*sigh* I hate "incompetence theorists"
https://archive.org/details/2010-scenarios-for-the-future-of-technology-and-international-development
the rockefeller foundation wargamed covid over 10 years ago. what we've seen this past year has been far from spontaneous. starting on page 18:
>LOCK STEP Scenario Narrative: A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback
<In 2012, the pandemic that the world had been anticipating for years finally hit. Unlike 2009’s H1N1, this new influenza strain—originating from wild geese—was extremely virulent and deadly. Even the most pandemic-prepared nations were quickly overwhelmed when the virus streaked around the world, infecting nearly 20 percent of the global population and killing 8 million in just seven months, the majority of them healthy young adults. The pandemic also had a deadly effect on economies: international mobility of both people and goods screeched to a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and breaking global supply chains. Even locally, normally bustling shops and office buildings sat empty for months, devoid of both employees and customers. Even in developed countries, containment was a challenge. The United States’s initial policy of “strongly discouraging” citizens from flying proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the spread of the virus not just within the U.S. but across borders. However, a few countries did fare better—China in particular. The Chinese government’s quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post-pandemic recovery.
<China’s government was not the only one that took extreme measures to protect its citizens from risk and exposure. During the pandemic, national leaders around the world flexed their authority and imposed airtight rules and restrictions, from the mandatory wearing of face masks to body-temperature checks at the entries to communal spaces like train stations and supermarkets. Even after the pandemic faded, this more authoritarian control and oversight of citizens and their activities stuck and even intensified. In order to protect themselves from the spread of increasingly global problems—from pandemics and transnational terrorism to environmental crises and rising poverty—leaders around the world took a firmer grip on power. At first, the notion of a more controlled world gained wide acceptance and approval. Citizens willingly gave up some of their sovereignty—and their privacy—to more paternalistic states in exchange for greater safety and stability. Citizens were more tolerant, and even eager, for top-down direction and oversight, and national leaders had more latitude to impose order in the ways they saw fit. In developed countries, this heightened oversight took many forms: biometric IDs for all citizens, for example, and tighter regulation of key industries whose stability was deemed vital to national interests. In many developed countries, enforced cooperation with a suite of new regulations and agreements slowly but steadily restored both order and, importantly, economic growth. Across the developing world, however, the story was different—and much more variable. Top-down authority took different forms in different countries, hinging largely on the capacity, caliber, and intentions of their leaders. There were other downsides, as the rise of virulent nationalism created new hazards.
<By 2025, people seemed to be growing weary of so much top-down control and letting leaders and authorities make choices for them. Wherever national interests clashed with individual interests, there was conflict. Sporadic pushback became increasingly organized and coordinated, as disaffected youth and people who had seen their status and opportunities slip away—largely in developing countries—incited civil unrest. Even those who liked the greater stability and predictability of this world began to grow uncomfortable and constrained by so many tight rules and by the strictness of national boundaries. The feeling lingered that sooner or later, something would inevitably upset the neat order that the world’s governments had worked so hard to establish.
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 No.361887

>>361876
With those unemployment and labour force participation numbers? Prole discontent is a bigger concern than manpower shortage. Maybe a consumption crash?
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 No.361891

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>>361731
you're stuck inside because the goal of the restrictions is social control, not because the ruling class actually thinks the virus is gonna get you
>>361747
>it's the ruling class that is fighting lockdowns and quarantines not working people
if the ruling class was really opposed to lockdowns they never would have happened, but the fact is governments, big pharma, and big tech all saw something to gain from exaggerating the situation
>there are no restrictions in burgerland at least
yes there are, and I live in a red state. the mask mandate on public transport is federal and indefinite. many businesses are still requiring them too, especially for employees. some have even started requiring the vaxx
>>361876
WHOA the delta variant just flew over my house!
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 No.361909

Ignoring the fuckwits, has anyone found any recent updates on India? Last I saw, their healthcare collapsed, infections and deaths were undercounted, they were burning bodies, and dumping them into rivers 24/7, then the reporting just stopped with nothing for all of June.
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 No.361911

>>361891
>you're stuck inside because the goal of the restrictions is social control, not because the ruling class actually thinks the virus is gonna get you
this fails to explain why in Britain - practically uniquely in Britain - we didn't do anything at any remotely reasonable opportunity at the start of the pandemic, it was left as late as possible, the strategy was explicitly communicated as being to sit back and do nothing until someone looked at the numbers and realised what a shitshow that path would be. if the aim is social control, it sticks out like a sore thumb that a nation which loves social control as much as Britain does declined to make use of that opportunity and adopted a messaging strategy that has actively frustrated attempts to keep things under control since.

(But of course, the nation that couldn't hold on to a fucking canal could be playing 5D chess, the apparent grotesque incompetence really just being a plot to make lockdown more effective… even as more and more people just ignore it anyway.)
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 No.361969

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>>361730
>with experts saying again and again that it was only a matter of time before something like covid happened. Then it did
The experts made really detailed predictions like that there would be ventilator shortages, it wasn't something as vague as "the plague is coming" It's actually kinda impressive how close the predictions matched with reality.
>>361885
>stats inflated thanks to faulty PCR tests and protocol aside, the estimated IFR doesn't support the assertion that the virus is particularly deadly
So many people were dying that they had to dig mass graves, have you lost your mind, you can't deny this.
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 No.362211

>>361969
Source? Did you misinterpret "equipment shortage", because ventilators are a specific piece of equipment, and being able to predict the nature of a future disease accurately is kinda sus. Almost like Contagion-level (go watch that movie, it released in 2011).
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 No.362505

>>361911
Even if it was the "master plan" to get everyone stuck inside. Even that was poorly planned and backfired since it's created an almost organic general strike where people are demanding better conditions at work and refusing to go back. If work from home becomes standard than a lot porkies are going to get fucked by the commercial realtor market collapsing from offices shuttering. Incompetence is the only explanation because even if conspiracy that this was the plan all along to control prols it didn't work. Why is hard to believe that Capitalism that operates from financial quarter to quarter isn't capable of dealing with long term problems or externalities?
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 No.362670


NEW POTHOLER

More "man-made" SARS Cov-2 lab-leak malarky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1EqRuVeU0
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 No.362956

>>361885
you're an incompetent fuckwit
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 No.362964

>>362956
Seriously that guy is a fed they're all like "there is no covid prol, please ignore your health and go back to work and consume. Do not demand basic safety or hygiene. Otherwise we…. I mean they win"
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 No.362967

>>361909
I really recommend nakedcapitalism.com's links and daily watercooler. Contents vary, but they post news from around the world daily and regularly post the latest covid information.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/07/200pm-water-cooler-7-7-2021.html
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 No.362976

>>362967
I also recommend reading (or at least skimming) the comments section. Most of the time it's just people talking about the links, but pretty frequently there are real gems.
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 No.362992

>>362964
The only thing more ridiculous than the idea that there is no covid is that this was all some keikaku doori on the part of the bourgeoisie in order to gain more control over people by issuing toothless shelter in place orders and mask mandates, suspending the operation of broad parts of the economy, and then cutting proles checks to stay at home, even suspending evictions for non-payment of rent.

A person would have to either be massively retarded or else in on the take to think that, somehow, the bourgeoisie gained more power over people by suspending the wage relation, sending workers home to work unsupervised, subsidizing the process through stimulus checks and increased unemployment payments, etc, etc, etc. You'd have to be fucking blind not to see that the bourgeoisie were screaming about the shutdown from the beginning, did everything they could to diminish and undermine it, and more or less turned a blind eye to enforcing it.

I don't know what this fucking retard is talking about because none of the workers I know were "shut up inside," as if there were armed guards forcing everyone to just stay home. My neighbors had to keep going to fucking work because they were "essential." They either had shitty mcjobs that didn't get a pass, or labored in big, unsanitary shitholes like fedex distribution centers, couldn't afford the internet connections they needed to work remotely (unlike their bosses, who all got to stay home), or any of the innumerable other shitty jobs that workers were fucking forced to continue going to with their insulting and short lived "hero bonuses."

This whole "people were forced to stay inside!" shit is a fucking crock. Working people weren't forced into isolation. The only ones that got to isolate were the comfortable and wealthy. Regular people had to keep going to their jobs, and a lot of them paid a steep fucking price for it.
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 No.363026

>>362992

Virgin coooordinated gang vs chad spoontaneous gang
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 No.365003

‘Too good to be true’: Doubts swirl around trial that saw 77% reduction in COVID-19 mortality
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/07/too-good-be-true-doubts-swirl-around-trial-saw-77-reduction-covid-19-mortality

>It would be the best news by far in COVID-19 treatment: According to a preprint published on 22 June, an experimental prostate cancer drug named proxalutamide reduced deaths in hospitalized COVID-19 patients by 77% in a clinical trial in Brazil. The preprint also claims the drug, which blocks the activity of androgens—male hormones such as testosterone—cut patients’ average hospital stay by 5 days, far more than any other treatment yet tested. Interim results of the study, announced at a press conference in March, led President Jair Bolsonaro to tout proxalutamide as a wonder cure and spurred Brazilian doctors to dose patients with similar drugs.


>But many scientists are wary. Alleged irregularities in the clinical trial have reportedly triggered an investigation by a national research ethics commission in Brazil. Top medical journals have rejected a paper about the study, and its main author, Flavio Cadegiani, an endocrinologist at the biotech company Applied Biology, has previously touted unproven COVID-19 medications, such as ivermectin, azithromycin, and antiworm compounds as COVID-19 therapies. And to many, the claims simply seem implausible.


>“These results are too good to be true,” says Eric Topol, executive vice president of Scripps Research Translational Institute. “There are almost no medical interventions in the history of medicine that have this magnitude of benefit, no less with COVID-19.”


Long COVID Symptoms – Such As Fatigue, Brain Fog, and Rashes – Likely Caused by Epstein-Barr Virus Reactivation
https://scitechdaily.com/long-covid-symptoms-such-as-fatigue-brain-fog-and-rashes-likely-caused-by-epstein-barr-virus-reactivation/

>Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) reactivation resulting from the inflammatory response to coronavirus infection may be the cause of previously unexplained long COVID symptoms — such as fatigue, brain fog, and rashes — that occur in approximately 30% of patients after recovery from initial COVID-19 infection. The first evidence linking EBV reactivation to long COVID, as well as an analysis of long COVID prevalence, is outlined in a new long COVID study published in the journal Pathogens.


>“We ran EBV antibody tests on recovered COVID-19 patients, comparing EBV reactivation rates of those with long COVID symptoms to those without long COVID symptoms,” said lead study author Jeffrey E. Gold of World Organization. “The majority of those with long COVID symptoms were positive for EBV reactivation, yet only 10% of controls indicated reactivation.”


>The researchers began by surveying 185 randomly selected patients recovered from COVID-19 and found that 30.3% had long term symptoms consistent with long COVID after initial recovery from SARS-CoV-2 infection. This included several patients with initially asymptomatic COVID-19 cases who later went on to develop long COVID symptoms.


WHO warns of ‘epidemiological stupidity’ of early Covid reopening
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/07/countries-should-not-relax-covid-rules-too-quickly-says-who-official-mike-ryan

>As England moves towards an anticipated “big bang” lifting of coronavirus restrictions on 19 July, a senior World Health Organization official has warned countries to lift their Covid-19 restrictions slowly so as “not to lose the gains that [they] have made”.


>The comments from the UN global health body’s head of emergencies, Mike Ryan, were not aimed directly at Boris Johnson’s much-trumpeted reopening. However, they will be interpreted as grist to the mill of those health experts who have been arguing that England is moving too fast at a time when infections are surging.


>Ryan did, however, address reactions to Johnson’s announcement earlier this week amid claims by some that the new policy appeared to be to allow new infections on top of vaccinations so that the country could reach herd immunity, saying he did not believe that was the intention.


>Ryan said the idea of letting people get infected with Covid-19 earlier rather than later was “epidemiological stupidity”.


Why is Delta such a worry? It’s more infectious, probably causes more severe disease, and challenges our vaccines
https://theconversation.com/why-is-delta-such-a-worry-its-more-infectious-probably-causes-more-severe-disease-and-challenges-our-vaccines-163579

>Scientists have identified more than 20 mutations in the Delta variant, but two may be crucial in helping it transmit more effectively than earlier strains. This is why early reports from India called it a “double mutant”.


>The first is the L452R mutation, which is also found in the Epsilon variant, designated by the WHO as a variant of interest. This mutation increases the spike protein’s ability to bind to human cells, thereby increasing its infectiousness.


>Preliminary studies also suggest this mutation may aid the virus in evading the neutralising antibodies produced by both vaccines and previous infection.


CDC says delta variant now makes up majority of US cases
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561809-cdc-says-delta-variant-not-makes-up-majority-of-us-cases

>The delta variant made up the majority of U.S. COVID-19 cases for the first time for the two weeks ending July 3, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


>Illustrating the rapid rise in the prevalence of the variant, the proportion of U.S. COVID-19 cases that were the delta variant rose from 30.4 percent for the two weeks ending June 19 to 51.7 percent for the two weeks ending July 3.


>The delta variant is highly transmissible, and experts are warning that it could cause localized spikes in cases in areas of the country with low vaccination rates, such as the South.


>Importantly, experts say the vaccines are still highly effective against the variant. A British study in May found that the Pfizer vaccine was 88 percent effective after two doses.


>An Israeli study this week showed lower effectiveness, at 64 percent, but the study has drawn some skepticism from experts, who say it could be an outlier.
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 No.365017

>>365003
Coronavirus Variant Has Some Worried about a New Autumn Wave
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-delta-dilemma-coronavirus-variant-has-some-worried-about-a-new-autumn-wave-a-fd5b7912-a08d-40a9-b72c-f9707d638872

>In the case of Portugal, where the virus has recently struck with a particular vengeance, the government has already pulled the emergency brake, unsettling many travelers. Since Tuesday, all travelers returning from Portugal to Germany are required to quarantine for 14 days, including those who have been fully vaccinated. But what if travelers begin bringing infections back with them from other countries? What if the vaccination pace slows down and school classes start again after the summer holidays? Will we then be threatened with a fourth wave?


>The situation isn’t the same as it was last year, when all countries were largely unprotected against the virus and many in power in the government, including the chancellor, had no choice but to impose strict lockdown measures. In the time since, many Germans have been vaccinated, meaning there is reason to believe that a fourth wave would not be a disaster, even if the delta variant becomes more widespread. Some protection is in place, just not yet for everyone. This means that politicians will now have to consider more carefully the need to balance confidence vs. caution and freedom vs. restrictions than it did last year.


>The concern is already considerable in a number of German states. Delta is an "invisible race against time,” warns Markus Söder, the governor of Bavaria and member of the CSU. "We must now be careful not to gamble away what we have achieved by being too lax with the delta variant," warns Manuela Schwesig, the governor of Mecklenberg-Western Pomerania.


>The delta variant is hitting the government at a delicate time. If a big fuss is made about new dangers during the election campaign, it could cause public sentiment to plummet. But doing nothing could be even worse. Although Germany has made significant progress with its vaccination campaign, it is nowhere close to herd immunity. Some 55 percent of Germans have received their first dose of vaccine, and almost 40 percent have received both shots, but there are still large groups that are not immune.


Covid-19: Government considers permanent MIQ facility, dismisses UK's decision to 'live with Covid'
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/125662926/covid19-government-considers-permanent-miq-facility-dismisses-uks-decision-to-live-with-covid

>Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins says the deaths expected to occur in the United Kingdom as it lifts pandemic-related restrictions in the coming weeks would not be acceptable in New Zealand.


>Hipkins and Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern have said the Government is not ready to decide on how New Zealand will manage Covid-19 after the vaccine rollout – including whether an “elimination” strategy should be maintained, or if New Zealand will need “learn to live” with the virus as countries including the UK and Australia intend to.


>However, the Government is considering building a permanent managed isolation facility, signalling that restrictions to keep Covid out may be in place for years to come.


>Hipkins on Tuesday dismissed UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s plan to end social distancing, mask wearing and lockdowns by July 19. Johnson declared the pandemic was “far from over” and the UK “must reconcile ourselves, sadly, to more deaths from Covid-19”.


Miss Mexico pageant hit by mass Covid outbreak as HALF of all beauty queen contestants test positive
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3236972/miss-mexico-pageant-covid/

>Herrera told all the local media that the beauty queens all tested negative before the pageant.


>According to sources inside the contest, the virus first began with participants from Zacatecas and Yucatan.


>The source told Mexican newspaper Reforma that within a few days it had spread among the girls from Chihuahua, San Luis Potosi, Mexico City, Nuevo Leon, Puebla, Tlaxcala, Queretaro and others.


>The girls were also told "not to complain" by organisers - despite most of them having a cough and a temperature.


>Mass testing took place after authorities received an anonymous tip that one of the queens was infected.


>Prior to the pageant, the contestants travelled to a school in the scenic Copper Canyon.


>This was run by nuns for indigenous Tarahumara children. The models delivered school supplies and posed for selfies with students.


>On the trip, a source told Reforma that “a minimum 10 [contestants] had symptoms”.


Cuba tightens COVID-19 measures amid record spike in cases; Delta variant was detected
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article252598633.html#storylink=cpy

>Cuba has tightened lockdown measures to fight the COVID-19 pandemic as infection rates and deaths have reached consecutive record highs in the past week, while a vaccination campaign with homegrown shots struggles to gain traction and the highly contagious Delta variant starts to spread in the island.


>Public health officials have imposed new measures to limit gatherings and mobility in high-transmission areas such as Cienfuegos, a commercial port town in the sugar-producing province of the same name. All beaches, rivers, lakes and recreational areas have been closed and the work day must end at 2 p.m., according to the provincial government.


>In Matanzas, the epicenter of the recent COVID-19 spike and home to Varadero, one of Cuba’s most famous beach destinations, restrictions have also been tightened, with a curfew from 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. and the prohibition of travel to other provinces. With the local health system stretched to the limit, the central government is sending supplies such as hospital beds and dispatching more medical personnel, Cuban leader Miguel Díaz-Canel said.


>“No territory is alone in this fight, which involves all of us,” he said Tuesday during a meeting of a group of local government leaders created to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic. “We are now in a truly complex epidemiological situation, in which the models, the data, the statistics and the analysis of the virus’ behavior over the past few weeks indicate that transmission levels are nearing the capacity we have in our health system.”


Explained: What We Know About COVID Transmission Through Faeces
https://www.indiaspend.com/explainers/covid-transmission-through-faeces-759884

>Delhi: Faeces of Covid-19 patients contain the virus, sometimes even days after the person tests negative on a Covid-19 swab test. But researchers have been unable to confirm whether the virus could transmit through faeces. We look at the research and explain what this means for sanitation, especially in India where 72% of sewage is left untreated and 72,368 million liters of sewage is generated per day.


>Researchers, supported by the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Institute of Virology, tracked a family of four in Pune, Maharashtra, after they tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus on an RT-PCR test, according to a preprint of the study from June 2021.


>The first person to test positive, known as the 'index case', was a 37-year-old healthcare worker who worked in the Covid-19 ward of a hospital. Researchers say he spread the infection to his family: his wife, 34, and their two children, aged 8 years and 6 years, who tested positive for Covid-19 a few days after him. The health worker had serious symptoms that lasted the longest, his wife had moderate symptoms, while the children had very mild symptoms.


>Researchers tested their stools after their admission to hospital and then on days 14, 21, 32, 40, 48 and 55 from the onset of symptoms, and found the presence of SARS-CoV-2 until at least day 21 in stool samples, even for the children who had mild symptoms. They were excreting the virus even after they had tested negative on pharyngeal swabs and this "suggested the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 transmission via the faecal-oral route", which means that the disease could spread via pathogens in faecal matter of one person that are ingested by another person, the researchers said. Urine samples, collected on admission and 14 days later, were negative throughout but this could mean that "improved methods of testing of urine samples are warranted", the researchers wrote.


What went so wrong with covid in India? Everything.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/07/05/1027834/covid-india-crisis-mistake-failure-modi/

>There’s no single reason for India’s catastrophic covid surge. Instead, it’s the result of basic mistakes and callous technocratic failures.


>On April 21, Ashley Delaney brought his father-in-law to the Goa Medical College and Hospital, the largest public hospital in the small southwestern Indian state. The hospital was in chaos and the wards were packed, with all 708 covid beds occupied—so 69-year-old Joseph Paul Alvares, a cancer survivor, had to lie on a gurney for nearly three days for a bed to become available. The bathrooms were so filthy that many patients chose to wear adult diapers. And when one covid-positive man developed seizures, the hospital staff—seemingly unable to cope— tethered him to the bedposts with bandages. Delaney was so disturbed by what he saw that he decided to stay by his father-in-law’s side in case things took a turn for the worse. Soon enough, they did.


>On the morning of April 28, several patients’ monitors started to flash and indicate that they were in distress, but the hospital staff didn’t respond. When Delaney went over to investigate, he saw that the patients—around 10 to 12 of them, as he later recalled—had died. He wasn’t a doctor, but it looked as if there had been a problem with the oxygen supplies. Delaney alerted several nurses and doctors, who told him that they had already complained to the administration but had been brushed aside. On May 2, the incident repeated itself. This time 12 patients died. On May 3, the number who died that night rose to 14. Delaney observed that in each case, a drop in oxygen had occurred between 2 a.m. and 6 a.m. It seemed to him that oxygen supplies were running out night after night, causing patients to asphyxiate.


>On May 4, after Delaney had been observing the covid wards for nearly two weeks, an entire ward ran out of oxygen. He saw a chance to save everyone affected—all the patients were still alive, though struggling—but when he approached staff, they confided that they were afraid of reprisals from the hospital administration if they raised their voices. After two patients died, he went public with his findings.
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 No.365357

Chinese CoronaVac vaccine could be correlated to cause a mutation in the Peruvian-originating "Lambda" variant, one that’s led to a more transmissible and potent mutant, study finds.

https://trialsitenews.com/university-of-chile-scientists-study-indicates-sinovacs-vaccine-elicits-more-transmissible-potent-variant-called-lambada/
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 No.365487

>>271521
Im a worker you little cretin. I have missed months of income because of COVID. I have a son and a wife that are dependent on me, and we are currently eating through our savings.

You know who is out of touch? Little NEET faggots like you for who the situation is exactly the same as it was pre-pandemic, since you're living off mommy and daddy like you were before and will continue to in perpetuity.

Lockdowns are fucking terrible for people who actually need to be in their workplace to produce. Yes, we're all well aware that millions of white collar workers with jobs they themselves label bullshit jobs, are living it up at home smoking bongs and collecting checks for 1.5 hours of productivity. Bully for them.

For those of us who actually need to be in the workplace to produce payable work, repeated lockdowns are literally dragging us into poverty. Not everyone lives comfortably in HDI countries where they hand out welfare like its candy.

For me and millions of others like me, the risk of COVID pales into comparison to the reality of economic desperation we are fast facing.
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 No.365509

>>365003
>>365003
>The preprint also claims the drug, which blocks the activity of androgens—male hormones such as testosterone—cut patients’ average hospital stay by 5 days, far more than any other treatment yet tested. Interim results of the study, announced at a press conference in March, led President Jair Bolsonaro to tout proxalutamide as a wonder cure and spurred Brazilian doctors to dose patients with similar drugs.
Lol become a transhumanist to avoid covid
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 No.365524

>>365487
and the more the workers are hurt from capitalism the more radical they be.
It would be more beneficial for socialism to have a family be put on the street and realize leftism then to live fat upper middle class american lives
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 No.365542

Mass deaths matching or exceeding the first wave INCOMING
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 No.365544

>>365524
Please kill yourself dude
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 No.365559

>>365487
>noooo, bossmang won't give me my wage!
Go take care of your wife's a boss's son.
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 No.365705

>>365487
>the problem is the lockdowns and not that your government is unwilling and your community unable to guarantee your livelihood in the middle of a global pandemic
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 No.365884

>>365487
>this is the fault of the lockdown and not the fact the government is implementing murderous choices of >>>deliberate mass impoverishment<<<
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 No.366161

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 No.366183

>>366161
>how to make relatable villains
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 No.367259

Viral infection and transmission in a large well-traced outbreak caused by the Delta SARS-CoV-2 variant
https://virological.org/t/viral-infection-and-transmission-in-a-large-well-traced-outbreak-caused-by-the-delta-sars-cov-2-variant/724/1

>In this study, we characterize a large transmission chain originated from the first local infection of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant in mainland China. A potential higher viral replication rate of the Delta variant is proposed, which leads the viral loads in Delta infections to be ~1000 times higher than the 19A/19B strains infections on the day when the testing turns to be positive. This highlights more infectiousness of Delta variant during the early stage of infection is very likely, and the frequency of the population screening should be optimized for the intervention16. The more infectiousness of the Delta variant infections in pre-symptomatic phase highlights the need of timely quarantine for the suspicious infection cases or closely contacts before the clinical onset or the PCR screening. Although the intra-host SNVs are at a low level, the minor iSNV transmission is observed resulting a part of fixed substitutions in the virus population during the outbreak. These data indicate some advantage or neutral mutations even at a low frequency could potentially rise and be fixed in the one generation of transmission, and further reach predominant in virus population if the epidemic could not be well contained.


Top Fed official warns the COVID delta variant is a threat to the US economy and says the central bank will keep supporting growth
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/bonds/delta-variant-us-economy-federal-reserve-inflation-mary-daly-2021-7?op=1

>A top policymaker at the Federal Reserve has said the fast-spreading delta COVID-19 variant poses a risk to the rebound in global growth, and said the central bank should be patient in supporting the US recovery.


>"I think one of the biggest risks to our global growth going forward is that we prematurely declare victory on COVID," Mary Daly, the President of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, told the Financial Times in an interview published Friday.


>She said countries around the world need to increase their vaccination rates, or COVID could continue to spread and act as a "headwind on US growth."


>Policymakers around the world are bracing for the delta variant to spread further, after sending cases soaring in the UK. Transmission of the coronavirus has started to rise again in 14 US states, the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation told Insider. About 60% of COVID-19 cases across the US are due to the delta variant, researchers at Scripps have estimated.


BioNTech/Pfizer Set To Commence Trial For ‘Updated’ Delta Variant Vaccine In August, Seeks Regulatory Approval For 3rd Booster Dose
https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/biontechpfizer-set-to-commence-trial-for-updated-delta-variant-vaccine-in-august-seeks-regulatory-approval-for-3rd-booster-dose

>Efficacy of the BioNTech/Pfizer mRNA vaccine against Delta variant of coronavirus is lower than initially thought, a new study in Israel revealed


>The study showed that between May 2 and June 5, the vaccine had a 94.3% efficacy rate. From June 6, five days after the government canceled coronavirus restrictions, until early July, the rate plunged to 64%. A similar decline was recorded in protection against coronavirus symptoms, the report added.


>The study however established encouraging outcomes for those vaccinated as far as hospitalisation goes. From May 2 to June 5, the efficacy rate in preventing hospitalization was 98.2%, compared with 93% from June 6 to July 3. A similar decline in the rate was recorded for the vaccine’s efficiency in preventing serious illness among people vaccinated.


>The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said, however, in a joint statement that Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster COVID-19 shot at this time.


Delta variant said to be far more widespread than federal estimates
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/08/delta-coronavirus-variant-widespread-498787

>The more-transmissible Delta coronavirus variant is believed to be significantly more widespread than the current federal projections, according to two senior Biden administration health officials with knowledge of the situation.


>Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data released late Tuesday shows the Delta strain accounted for more than 51 percent of new Covid-19 cases from June 20 to July 3. But the reality on the ground is likely much higher because states and private labs are taking weeks to report testing results to the CDC, the officials said.


>“It is everywhere now,” one of the officials said, adding that recent data shows the Pfizer Covid vaccine works well against the Delta variant. “The risk really is in the unvaccinated community. We’re starting to see more and more people get sick and need medical attention.”


>Covid-19 hospitalizations are up more than 40 percent over the last two weeks in Arkansas, Iowa and Nevada. And emerging evidence from a repository of genetic sequences compiled by Scripps Research's Outbreak.info suggests that the Delta strain accounted for as much as two-thirds of new Covid cases nationwide over the past two weeks. The site notes the data "may not represent the true prevalence of the mutations in the population."


Scientists identify long-sought marker for COVID vaccine success
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01778-2

>Researchers developing the Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine have identified biomarkers that can help to predict whether someone will be protected by the jab they receive.


>The team at the University of Oxford, UK, identified a ‘correlate of protection’ from the immune responses of trial participants — the first found by any COVID-19 vaccine developer. Identifying such blood markers, scientists say, will improve existing vaccines and speed the development of new ones by reducing the need for costly large-scale efficacy trials.


>“We would like to have an antibody measure that is a reliable guide to protection because it could speed up the licensure of new vaccines,” says David Goldblatt, a vaccinologist at University College London.


>New formulations of influenza vaccines, for instance, are generally judged by whether they trigger a strong enough antibody response against a viral protein in a relatively small number of people, instead of in large trials that look for reductions in rates of infection. Researchers and regulators hope to do the same with COVID-19 vaccines.


>“The power of a correlate in vaccines is profound,” says Dan Barouch, director of the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, Massachusetts. “If there’s a reliable correlate, then it can be used in clinical trials to make decisions as to what vaccines are likely to work, what form of vaccines are likely to work, or how durable the vaccines are going to be.”


>The findings are reported in a preprint study posted to medRxiv on 24 June1.
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 No.367269

>>367259
Dallas County reaches herd immunity even as new COVID cases continue to hold steady, experts say
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2021/07/07/dallas-county-reaches-herd-immunity-even-as-new-covid-cases-continue-to-hold-steady-experts-say/

>Dallas County crossed a major threshold in its fight to curb the coronavirus pandemic this week, reaching herd immunity on July 4, according to a nonprofit that tracks health data for the county.


>At least 80% of the county’s residents have either natural immunity from previously contracting COVID-19 or are vaccinated, officials at the Parkland Center for Clinical Innovation said in a statement Wednesday.


>While celebrating the public health goal, officials at the center and elsewhere stressed continued caution as new strains of the virus — especially the delta variant — continue to take hold here and vaccination rates remain stagnant.


>“Reaching the 80 percent herd immunity rate is not like flipping a switch, but a continuum in our journey,” said Steve Miff, the center’s CEO. “It is an important accomplishment, which is a credit to the residents and public health leaders who have committed themselves to crush COVID.”


>Herd immunity occurs when more than 70% of a population has protection either from vaccinations or past infection, according to public health experts. Herd immunity does not mean the coronavirus is eliminated or that infection stops. However, such a milestone should lead to a dramatic end to an infectious disease. But public health experts have also stressed that herd immunity is “fluid” because viruses can mutate and become resistant to existent vaccines.


Efficacy of Portable Air Cleaners and Masking for Reducing Indoor Exposure to Simulated Exhaled SARS-CoV-2 Aerosols — United States, 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7027e1.htm

>In this study, the use of HEPA air cleaners in a conference room significantly reduced the exposure of nearby participants and a speaker to airborne particles produced by a simulated infected participant. The air cleaners were most effective when they were located in the center of the room close to the aerosol source. Moreover, the combination of HEPA air cleaners and universal masking was more effective than was either intervention alone. The use of masks without air cleaners reduced the aerosol exposure of the receivers by 72%, and the use of air cleaners without masks reduced the exposure by up to 65%. When used together, the HEPA air cleaners and masks reduced exposure to respiratory aerosols by up to 90%. These findings suggest that the use of portable HEPA air cleaners and universal masking can each reduce exposure to simulated SARS-CoV-2 aerosols in indoor environments, with larger reductions occurring when air cleaners and masking are used together.


Government’s Mass Infection PlanPushed by Great Barrington Declaration Lobbying Effort to End COVID Protections
https://bylinetimes.com/2021/07/08/governments-mass-infection-plan-pushed-by-great-barrington-declaration-lobbying-effort-to-end-covid-protections/

>A Government advisor on the Coronavirus pandemic, who claimed that young people and children are better off getting infected than vaccinated as a way of “topping up” population immunity, was behind an effort by supporters of the Great Barrington Declaration (GBD) in April to convince the Government to end all COVID-19-related protections, Byline Times can reveal.


>The GBD advocated a “focused protection” – or ‘herd immunity’ approach – to the pandemic. The lobbying effort also involved a range of notorious COVID-19 disinformation groups which have promoted anti-vaccine pseudoscience.


>Professor Robert Dingwall sits on the Government’s New and Emerging Respiratory Viral Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG) and the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) sub-group on COVID-19 vaccines.


>He is a sociologist by profession who has also provided technical assessments to the Government’s Scientific Advisory Group on Emergencies (SAGE) and the Moral and Ethical Advisory Group, advising Chief Medical Officer Professor Chris Whitty.


>At the end of June – less than a week before the Prime Minister confirmed the lifting of protections on 19 July – Prof Dingwall tweeted: “Given the low risk of COVID for most teenagers, it is not immoral to think that they may be better protected by natural immunity generated through infection than by asking them to take the possible risk of a vaccine.”


Boris Johnson conducting mass COVID experiment on young people, top scientist warns
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-johnson-covid-young-people-161931132.html?

>A top scientist has claimed Boris Johnson" is effectively conducting a mass "experiment on young people as he lifts coronavirus restrictions.


>Prof James Naismith, Director of the Rosalind Franklin Institute, said the current growth in cases is "unsettling" amid the perceived expectation that younger unvaccinated people should "get on with it".


>Prof Naismith was commenting on the latest Office for National Statistics (ONS) infection survey, which estimated 211,100 people in England had COVID-19 in the week up to Sunday. This was up from 122,500 in last week’s survey.


>On Friday, the prime minister reiterated his intention to end England’s lockdown as planned on 19 July, though he also suggested on Thursday it will be done so with "extra precautions".


Earnings Shocks and Stabilization During COVID-19
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3876745

>This paper documents the magnitude and distribution of U.S. earnings changes during the COVID-19 pandemic and how fiscal relief offset lost earnings. We build panels from administrative tax data to measure annual earnings changes. The frequency of earnings declines during the pandemic were similar to the Great Recession, but the distribution was very different. In 2020, workers starting in the bottom half of the distribution were more likely to experience large annual earnings declines and a similar share of male and female workers had large earnings declines. While most workers experiencing large annual earnings declines do not receive unemployment insurance, over half of beneficiaries were made whole in 2020, as unemployment insurance replaced a median of 103 percent of their annual earnings declines. After incorporating unemployment insurance, the likelihood of large earnings declines among low-earning workers was not only smaller than during the Great Recession, but also smaller than in 2019.


Live free and die: Inside the bizarre political philosophy of America’s unvaccinated
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/why-americans-wont-get-vaccinated-trump-states-20210708.html

>A couple of weeks ago, I drove two hours north to the hillside town of Olyphant, Pa., just outside Scranton, to meet with a Donald Trump superfan for a book project I’ve been working on. For 90 minutes, I listened to this 54-year-old laid-off factory worker and former Democrat who now says the more that liberal politicians and other elites voice their contempt for the ex-president, the more strongly he supports Trump. He was also candid about his recent health woes — including a heart attack and a stroke — so I asked if he’d received a COVID-19 shot.


>“Absolutely not,” he responded quickly, “and I will not get it. Let me clarify … not at this time, because it’s all pretty new.” He blamed not only the speed with which the vaccines gained federal approval but shifts in coronavirus guidance from top officials — but he was basically distrustful of anything around COVID-19, because he felt it has been politicized. “I just felt that the left was using it as an excuse to fire along their agenda, get rid of Trump,” he said.


>Elsewhere across the U.S., some folks have not been as lucky with rolling the dice on COVID-19, during what should be the waning days of the pandemic but which — most frustratingly — are not. In and around Springfield, Mo., on the edge of the Ozarks and in the heart of Trump country in a deep red state, case counts have been surging in recent days. Some 17 people — none of them fully vaccinated, like more than 60% for their fellow Missourians — died there from the virus from June 21 through July 4, and one of the city’s hospitals ran out of ventilators for a time. “Many people talk about this as if it’s a personal decision, but it’s a decision that absolutely affects the entire community, so we need more people to get vaccinated,” Aaron Schekorra, a county public health official, told the Kansas City Star. “The pandemic’s not over.”


>No, it’s not. Increasingly, we are moving toward two Americas — one mostly vaccinated and one mostly not, separate and at unequal risk of disease and death. And more and more, that divide is political. A striking map shows that almost all of the U.S. states that have vaccinated more than 70% of adults voted for the Democrat for president in 2016 and 2020 (the exception is here in Pennsylvania, which Trump won in 2016). Meanwhile, almost all of the states with the lowest vaccination rates (except for Nevada) went for Trump in at least one of the last two elections.


They didn't want to get Covid-19 shots. This is what convinced them.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/they-didn-t-want-get-covid-19-shots-what-convinced-n1272740?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

>Linda Estes could not wait to get vaccinated against Covid-19. Her granddaughter, Liz Serrano, was more hesitant.


>Serrano, 19, lives with Estes in Yakima, Washington, and doesn’t like needles. She worried the vaccine could endanger her health, despite overwhelming data indicating it is safe.


>To ease her granddaughter’s anxiety, Estes, 64, brought Serrano with her when she got vaccinated. The shot went fine, other than a sore arm.


>Seeing how smoothly the shot went for her grandmother, and hearing of others who had similar experiences in the weeks that followed, Serrano began to reconsider her position.


>A discussion with her doctor reassured her that the vaccine was safe. And a needle prick, she realized, was manageable if it meant saving lives. After several months of thinking about it, Serrano decided, “I want to do this — just do my part.”


Delta Variant Surges in Colorado as the Bands Play On
https://khn.org/news/article/covid-delta-variant-colorado-surge-music-festival/

>GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. — Dr. Rachel LaCount grasped a metal hoop at a playground and spun in circles with her 7-year-old son, turning the distant mesas of the Colorado National Monument into a red-tinged blur.


>LaCount has lived in this western Colorado city of 64,000 nearly her whole life. As a hospital pathologist, she knows better than most that her hometown has become one of the nation’s top breeding grounds for the delta variant of covid-19.


>“The delta variant’s super scary,” LaCount said.


>That highly transmissible variant, first detected in India, is now the dominant covid strain in the United States. Colorado is among the states with the highest proportion of the delta variant, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


>Mesa County has the most delta variant cases of any county in Colorado, state health officials report, making the area a hot spot within a hot spot. A CDC team and the state’s epidemiologist traveled to Grand Junction to investigate how and why cases of the variant were moving so quickly in Mesa County.


>At her hospital, LaCount has put in orders for more rapid covid tests as the caseload has grown. She’s seen the intensive care unit start filling up with covid patients, so that hospital officials are placing two in a room against normal practices.


>Despite these alarming signs, many in Mesa County have let down their guard. The rate of eligible residents fully vaccinated has stalled at about 42%. LaCount has noticed that few people wear masks anymore at the grocery store. Thousands of people recently flocked to Mack, 20 miles from Grand Junction, to attend the Country Jam music festival, which could accelerate the variant’s spread to the concertgoers’ hometowns.
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 No.369209

>>359912
>>361625
Finally some sanity in this thread.
>>365487
Brilliant post. The scheme in Britain for dealing with lockdown basically means workers taking a 20% pay cut. I imagine it's much worse in countries that aren't imperialist. And you're spot on about white collar workers, yeah it's great for some but hundreds of millions of workers around the work can't do their work from home. Even if they could, all home working does is divide the working class further into different strata. We can't organise together if we're are split up like pre-capitalist relations of isolated production, rather than the giant bringing together of people that happens in capitalist enterprises.
>For me and millions of others like me, the risk of COVID pales into comparison to the reality of economic desperation we are fast facing.
Well said.
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 No.369225

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>>369209
Covid is still mutating, you can't know how bad this could get. Have you ever considered that the big historic plagues that wiped out half of the populations didn't necessarily start out that deadly. It's very arrogant to ignore this.

If people wear really effective protective gear, lock downs would not be necessary to contain this virus, if you really were on the side of workers, why aren't you demanding better protection equipment, why are you asking workers to absorb the health risk ?
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 No.369230

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 No.369514

Also workers can't organise for anything locked up at home, lol.
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 No.369532

>>369514
Spontaneous strikes originate in Facebook groups now
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 No.369533

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>>369513
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 No.369535

It's funny people debating about masks to me. Nobody wears masks where I live, employee or customer.
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 No.369746

>>369225
The trend in virology is for viruses to become more transmissible but less pathogenic over time. Not always but this is so commonly the case that it is a standard heuristic

That is exactly what is happening with covid. The delta variant spreads shockingly fast but for most people it is about the same as the common flu. Thr og covid was putting young healthy people in the ground and if they survived they had severe cardiovascular damage.
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 No.369904

>>369514
No one is locked up at home you fucking retard
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 No.369938

>>369230
Thank you

Covid: Pandemic ‘is not slowing down’, says WHO chief scientist, raises concern about Delta variant
https://scroll.in/latest/999838/covid-pandemic-is-not-slowing-down-says-who-chief-scientist-raises-concern-about-delta-variant

>World Health Organization’s chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan on Friday said that the Covid-19 pandemic has not been “slowing down”, citing data on new infections and fatalities in a span of 24 hours, reported Bloomberg TV.


>“In the last 24 hours, close to 5,00,000 new [Covid-19] cases have been reported and about 9,300 deaths – now that is not a pandemic that is slowing down,” Swaminathan said in an interview to Bloomberg. “What we are seeing now…is a diverging pandemic…there are parts of the world where vaccination coverage has reached a point where there is a slow down of severe cases and people being ill enough to be hospitalised…”


>However, Swaminathan said that cases have been rising in five of six WHO regions – Africa, the Americas, South-East Asia, Europe, Eastern Meditteranean and Western Pacific.


>She also said that mortality rates in Africa have jumped by 30% to 40% in two weeks.


COVID: Cuba approves emergency use of own Abdala vaccine
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-cuba-approves-emergency-use-of-own-abdala-vaccine/a-58222105

>Cuba on Friday approved its homemade Abdala coronavirus vaccine for emergency use.


>The communist country is the first country in Latin America and the Caribbean to successfully develop a coronavirus vaccine.


>The Cuban health regulator, CECMED, approved the shot after the manufacturers announced last month that their vaccine was more than 92% effective against COVID-19 infections when three doses were given.

What are the Cuban vaccines?

>The Abdala vaccine is one of a total of five candidate vaccines in Cuba, according to authorities there. Another, the two-dose Soberana 2, is also expected to be soon authorized for emergency use by CECMED.


>Both vaccines are then to be sent up for approval to the World Health Organization.


‘Their childhood has been stolen’: calls for action to tackle long Covid
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/11/their-childhood-has-been-stolen-calls-for-action-to-tackle-long-covid

>A growing cross-party group of MPs and peers is demanding an urgent overhaul of the services offered to sufferers of long Covid amid warnings that thousands of new cases will emerge every day as coronavirus restrictions are lifted this summer.


>Sajid Javid, the health secretary, has been urged by the group of more than 60 parliamentarians to revise the lockdown-lifting plans because of the expected surge in long covid cases, which experts warn could disproportionately affect the young.


>The group, which includes former Tory minister Dan Poulter as well as Labour, Lib Dem, Green and SNP MPs, states that lifting restrictions when case numbers are rising and the impact of the vaccine on long covid is not known “risks placing a large and unsustainable burden on the health service”.


>“We are concerned that the government’s decision to lift most remaining coronavirus public health measures from 19 July risks exposing many more people to long covid, including younger age groups who aren’t yet fully vaccinated,” writes the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Coronavirus, led by the Lib Dem MP Layla Moran. “This condition leaves many unable to work or carry out their regular daily activities, with severe consequences for our NHS and economy.”


England's Covid-19 gamble as society reopens despite skyrocketing cases
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/england-s-covid-19-gamble-society-reopens-despite-skyrocketing-cases-n1273232

>LONDON — England is trying to rewrite the pandemic playbook, opening up its society amid skyrocketing cases in the hope its world-class vaccine rollout will prevent more mass deaths.


>Daily cases in the United Kingdom are among the highest in the world after the government eased its lockdown while the highly transmissible delta variant began to dominate.


>But despite this, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced plans Monday to lift almost all remaining restrictions in England on July 19 — which has been dubbed "Freedom Day" by right-leaning newspapers. (Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland govern their own health policies.)


>It is a radical course of action that has caused alarm at home and abroad, with some critics suggesting the policy is driven more by the libertarian views of the ruling Conservative Party than by data.


>Experts and opposition politicians now view the country as taking a high-risk gamble — one whose outcome will be watched closely by other governments attempting to bring about the coronavirus endgame.


>"I think the U.K. government has gone out on a limb with a fairly extreme stance," said Danny Altmann, a professor of immunology at Imperial College London.


>That view gained support on Wednesday when more than 220 scientists accused the government of "embarking on a dangerous and unethical experiment."


>"Any strategy that tolerates high levels of infection" is "both unethical and illogical," the scientists wrote in a letter in the Lancet medical journal.
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 No.372556

FDA expected to announce that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine has been linked to a "serious but rare side effect" called Guillain-Barré syndrome, in which your body's immune system attacks your nerves (Wall Street Journal)
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 No.372878

Vaccines will get full FDA approval, Fauci predicts
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/11/fauci-vaccines-covid-approval-fda-499158

>Anthony Fauci said on Sunday that the FDA giving Covid vaccines full approval is “only a technical issue” and that the hundreds of millions of people across the world who have been vaccinated serve as evidence that “the effectiveness and the safety of the vaccines are very high.”


>As of July 4, about 157 million Americans were fully vaccinated, almost half of the population. Many people are hesitant or have decided to wait to be vaccinated until the vaccines shift from being labeled “emergency use authorization” to “fully approved.”


>Speaking on ABC’s “This Week,” President Joe Biden's top medical adviser told host George Stephanopoulos, “There are certainly some people who when you use the terminology ‘emergency use authorization,’ they kind of think it's a tenuous data showing that it works so that it's safe. That's not the case.”


<“The bottom line is we need to get the children back in school, in-person classes in the fall,” said Fauci.
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 No.372881

Experts warn full Covid-19 vaccine approval is no quick fix for hesitancy
https://www.statnews.com/2021/07/12/experts-warn-full-covid-19-vaccine-approval-is-no-quick-fix-for-hesitancy/

>WASHINGTON — The Food and Drug Administration issuing full approval for two Covid-19 vaccines might not be the game-changer it’s chalked up to be, according to a number of leading public health experts.


>Increasingly, some academics and physicians have pushed back on the popular narrative that the FDA is needlessly delaying full approvals for the Pfizer and Moderna coronavirus shots — and spurring vaccine hesitancy by doing so. While full approvals might encourage a handful of Americans to finally get vaccinated, they argue, it’s more important for the agency to make clear that the eventual approvals are motivated by science and not by public pressure.


>“I’m not sure that it’s helpful for us to be advocating from the outside, saying: Hey, please approve, please approve,” said Céline Gounder, a physician and epidemiologist who advised President Biden’s transition team on Covid-19 policy. “I think the FDA is aware of the urgency.”
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 No.372884

US "Very Concerned" Covid Variants Could Risk Recovery: Top Official
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-very-concerned-covid-variants-could-risk-recovery-us-treasury-secretary-janet-yellen-2484030?pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

>Venice: US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Sunday she was "very concerned" about the risk that new variants of coronavirus could pose to the global economic recovery from the pandemic.


>"We are very concerned about the Delta variant and other variants that could emerge and threaten recovery," she told reporters following a G20 meeting in Venice, Italy.


>"We are a connected global economy, what happens in any part of the world affects all other countries."


>In their final statement issued late Saturday, G20 finance ministers warned that the spread of new variants was a "downside risk" to the economic recovery, while also warning of the dangers of differing paces of vaccination campaigns.


>"We recognise the importance of working together to speed the process of vaccination and have the goal of wanting to vaccinate 70 percent of the world's population next year," Yellen said.


NYCHA Ignored Warnings That Ventilation Woes Endangered Tenants During Pandemic, Emails Show
https://www.thecity.nyc/2021/7/11/22570701/nycha-warned-during-pandemic-of-ventilation-danger

>The city’s public housing authority has long insisted that weak air circulation inside aging apartments did not contribute to the spread of COVID-19 among tenants during the pandemic’s peak last year.


>But internal emails obtained by THE CITY reveal some top NYCHA managers were warned repeatedly as pandemic raged through the five boroughs last spring that poorly ventilated apartments could accelerate the transmission of the virus that’s killed more than 33,000 New Yorkers.


>A consultant hired by the authority urged NYCHA managers in notes week after week to kickstart a stalled plan to improve air circulation in bathrooms and kitchens by fixing old mechanical ventilation systems plagued by busted roof fans and clogged air ducts.


>At the time, the effort to repair the archaic systems — installed in 240 of NYCHA’s 320 developments — had fallen far behind schedule, leaving tens of thousands of residents vulnerable.


>The consultant, Microecologies Inc., conveyed a simple message to three top housing authority managers: fix this problem right away.


What does Africa need to make more coronavirus vaccines?
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3140669/what-does-africa-need-make-more-coronavirus-vaccines?module=lead_hero_story_1&pgtype=homepage

>Africa is in the grip of a third wave of Covid-19, fuelled by faster-spreading variants. It desperately needs vaccines but the Covax Facility, a global initiative for equitable access to vaccines for low-income countries, is behind schedule to secure doses, partly because the Serum Institute of India, a major Covax supplier, was banned from exporting vaccines amid the country’s second wave of Covid-19.


>The continent is trying to plug some of the gap by signing bilateral deals producing Covid-19 vaccines

locally. By importing the vaccine components and processing them on site – a system known as finish and fill – local manufacturers can keep transport costs down and bypass the kind of export bans imposed in India.

>But experts said the output from these plants was unlikely to have any major impact this year and the continent would still have to rely on global donations as a quick fix. And it would take time and an overall boost of industry and regulatory framework for such developing countries, not only in Africa, to be self-dependent on vaccine supplies.


>Thomas Cueni, director general of the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers (IFPMA), an association of pharmaceutical research companies, said the estimated 11 billion vaccine doses to be produced this year – enough to vaccinate the world’s adult population if distributed equitably – would mainly come from vaccine producers in China, India, the United States and Europe.


>“Anything outside these four will not have a massive influence in scaling up manufacturing output,” Cueni said.
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 No.372899

>>372878
>>372881
>>372884
Sorry for the fucked up posting, a politico link was causing the post to be rejected for some reason

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/11/covid-mandates-americans-divided-498992

Japan pinpricking China’s gains in SE Asia
https://asiatimes.com/2021/07/japan-pinpricking-chinas-gains-in-se-asia/

>MANILA – Intent on checking Beijing’s “vaccine diplomacy” and maritime expansionism in Southeast Asia, the Joe Biden administration is counting increasingly on Japan in a “networked power” strategy to contain China’s regional advances.


>In recent weeks, both the United States and Japan have stepped up their own vaccine diplomacy in the region, donating millions of Covid-19 doses to frontline states such as the Philippines and Vietnam. Both Southeast Asian countries have been grappling with a surge in infection rates as well as Chinese naval expansionism in recent months.


>Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte profusely thanked Japan for its donations, which he said, “will surely go a long way in our quest for herd immunity.” Simultaneously, the US and Japan have also stepped up their joint military exercises with regional allies to uphold a “free and open order” amid China’s maritime and territorial assertiveness in the Indo-Pacific.


>Not long after concluding massive wargames with the US and France, Japan kicked off its first “air-to-air” training with the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), underscoring growing “spoke-to-spoke” defense cooperation among the US’ regional allies.


Australia reports first 2021 local COVID-19 death, highest case number
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-reports-first-2021-covid-19-death-highest-case-number-2021-07-11/

>MELBOURNE, July 11 (Reuters) - Australia reported its first locally contracted COVID-19 death of the year on Sunday and a 2021 record 77 new cases of the virus in the state of New South Wales, which is battling an outbreak of the highly infectious Delta variant.


>State Premier Gladys Berejiklian said the numbers in and around the country's biggest city Sydney, already under a hard lockdown, are expected to rise.


>"I'll be shocked if it's less than 100 this time tomorrow, of additional new cases," Berejiklian told a televised briefing.


>On Saturday there were 50 cases, the previous 2021 record high. The recent outbreak stands at 566 cases.


>Of Sunday's cases, 33 were people who had spent time in the community while they were infectious, raising the likelihood that the three-week lockdown of more than 5 million people in Sydney and surroundings will be extended.


Woman, 90, infected with Alpha and Beta Covid variants at the same time
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/11/woman-90-infected-with-alpha-and-beta-covid-variants-at-the-same-time

>A 90-year-old Belgian woman who died after falling ill with Covid-19 was infected with both the Alpha and Beta variants of the coronavirus at the same time, researchers have said.


>The unvaccinated woman was admitted to the OLV hospital in the city of Aalst after a spate of falls in March and tested positive for Covid-19 the same day.


>While her oxygen levels were initially good, her condition deteriorated rapidly and she died five days later.


>She was found to be carrying both the Alpha strain and the Beta variant.


>“Both these variants were circulating in Belgium at the time, so it is likely that the lady was co-infected with different viruses from two different people,” said molecular biologist Anne Vankeerberghen from the OLV hospital who led the research.


>“Unfortunately we don’t know how she became infected.”


Why the Most Unusual Covid Cases Matter
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/12/opinion/covid-unusual-cases-study.html

>Like many people around the world and in Brazil where she lives, Parouhi Darakjian Kouyoumdjian became infected with the coronavirus last year; she had mild symptoms and recovered. But her case is remarkable: Ms. Kouyoumdjian is a centenarian.


>Still, while the elderly are more likely to suffer severe and fatal cases of Covid-19, Ms. Kouyoumdjian is not alone. She is part of a study led by Mayana Zatz, director of the Human Genome Research Center at the University of São Paulo, to understand how very old people who became infected with SARS-CoV-2 can emerge unscathed.


>The scientists are looking at genes from 15 centenarians — including those of a 114-year-old woman who also recovered from Covid-19 — to see whether there are any mutations that provided protection against the coronavirus.


>“To survive until 114 years old is not easy, and to survive after having had Covid-19 is even more difficult,” Dr. Zatz said. “I want to understand what makes someone survive.”


>Throughout the pandemic, there have been various kinds of medical anomalies. There are people who test positive for months and others who never get infected despite living in close quarters with Covid sufferers. Such surprising cases are often declared “outliers” and shrugged off (and, indeed, should be downplayed when designing public health policies for the general population), but unusual examples of any disease can offer important insights for scientists, and most critically, lead to new medicines for that illness and others.


>The sheer, devastating scale of the coronavirus spread has also meant that there is a unique opportunity for researchers to advance knowledge of the immune system.


>One famous example of a treatment arising from someone who is seemingly impervious to a disease: Stephen Crohn, whose partner became ill in 1978 with the disease later known as AIDS, became a beacon of hope for a new medication. Mr. Crohn’s partner died, and so did many of his friends in the gay community, as H.I.V. spread during the 1980s. But Mr. Crohn did not fall ill.


>And when scientists tried to infect his cells in the lab with the virus, they couldn’t. A genetic mutation in a receptor on the surface of his cells made it impossible for the virus to enter them. That rare mutation, called delta 32, inspired an antiviral drug called maraviroc.
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 No.372911

Ever since I read the study how covid uses 5ar to infect, I knew antiandrogenic drugs might help. Study confirms it below

> Additionally, we have reported that men taking antiandrogenic drugs, e.g., 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors (5ARis), are less likely to have severe COVID-19.


I want all you anons to stay safe so in case you get covid as a precaution I recommend getting Finasteride (Propecia) a 5ar inhibitor. It's a fairly safe drug, you might get weak erections for a while and as a bonus you will get nicer hair.

You can get it prescribed by doctors online from lemonaidhealth or just find a doc to write you a scrip for it. There are places you can get it online.

tl;dr get Propecia (finasteride) and take 1.25mg PO once a day as a potential precaution if you get covid
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 No.372915

>>372899
Fomites and the COVID-19 pandemic: An evidence review on its role in viral transmission
https://ncceh.ca/documents/evidence-review/fomites-and-covid-19-pandemic-evidence-review-its-role-viral-transmission

>Since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, public health messaging continuously evolved as more evidence emerged about the risks associated with SARS-CoV-2 transmission and infection. One of the common control measures suggested from the beginning was to increase cleaning and disinfection in public and private settings based on prior understanding or beliefs about transmission of respiratory viruses. Disinfectants, soaps, and hand sanitizers are known to be effective against coronaviruses and other pathogens at the appropriate concentrations with adequate contact time.1,2 With heightened concerns about COVID-19, many businesses and public facilities have allocated significant resources to support more stringent and frequent disinfection practices. Some surface disinfection technologies may be very costly especially for small businesses. Some people have also expanded their use of cleaning and disinfection products at home to items beyond frequently touched surfaces (e.g. disinfecting grocery packaging and food take-out containers).3 Evidence shows that misuse and overuse of cleaning and disinfection products may cause adverse acute and chronic health impacts.4 In addition, there have been questions about the contribution of fomites to SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and whether excessive surface disinfection is warranted. Some are downplaying the importance of fomites as a transmission pathway as emphasis is shifted to droplet and aerosol transmission.5


>Thousands of variants of SARS-CoV-2 have been sequenced since the virus began circulating in early 2020, and certain variants have emerged as dominant strains that spread across several continents including Europe and parts of Africa due to quarantine-free travel.6,7 It is currently unclear whether these mutations in protein spikes on the surfaces of the viruses impart transmission advantages or enhance surface survivability.6,7 However, some epidemiological evidence and modelling data show that the strain recently identified in the United Kingdom (VOC-202012/01 or lineage B.1.1.7) may be more transmissible.8


>This review will examine available epidemiological and research evidence on the infection risk of SARS-CoV-2 via fomites. Factors that influence SARS-CoV-2 transfer to and from fomites, as well as how environmental factors may influence the persistence of SARS-CoV-2 on environmental surfaces, will be discussed.


A pilot metagenomic study reveals that community derived mobile phones are reservoirs of viable pathogenic microbes
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-93622-w

>There is increasing attention focussed on the risks associated with mobile phones possibly serving as ‘Trojan Horse’ fomites for microbial transmission in healthcare settings. However, little is reported on the presence of microbes on community derived mobile phones which in 2021, numbered in the billions in circulation with majority being used on a daily basis. Identify viable microbial organisms swabbed from smartphones on a university campus. Entire surfaces of 5 mobile phones were swabbed and examined for their microbial content using pre-agar-based growths followed by downstream DNA metagenomic next-generation sequencing analysis. All phones were contaminated with viable microbes. 173 bacteria, 8 fungi, 8 protists, 53 bacteriophages, 317 virulence factor genes and 41 distinct antibiotic resistant genes were identified. While this research represents a pilot study, the snapshot metagenomic analysis of samples collected from the surface of mobile phones has revealed the presence of a large population of viable microbes and an array of antimicrobial resistant factors. With billions of phones in circulation, these devices might be responsible for the rise of community acquired infections. These pilot results highlight the importance of public health authorities considering mobile phones as ‘Trojan Horse’ devices for microbial transmission and ensure appropriate decontamination campaigns are implemented.


Government oversight of COVID air cleaners leaves gaping holes
https://fortune.com/2021/07/11/government-oversight-air-purifiers-covid/

>Stephen Matthew Shumaker counted on in-home, in-person demonstrations to drive his water filtration business, which serves the Atlanta area. So when COVID-19 hit and no one was inviting people indoors, he turned to the air-cleaning part of his operation.


>He sent cards in the mail advertising air purifiers using ActivePure technology to new homeowners: “KILL COVID-19, CORONAVIRUS IN YOUR HOME!!”


>One card landed on the desk of a postal inspector, who called it false and misleading in a court record. Shumaker then told an undercover agent on the phone on April 24, 2020, that the air purifier “kills the Coronavirus Virus on the spot,” according to a criminal complaint.


>Weeks later, as Shumaker was heading out the door to his daughter’s tennis tournament, eight law enforcement officers detained him. In August, he pleaded guilty to distributing “a pesticide device that was misbranded in that the product label was missing an EPA establishment number.” In other words, he failed to follow the letter of a little-known law.


>Shumaker told KHN he was just a salesperson and the devices were being shipped straight from the manufacturer. “So I don't know—what am I supposed to do?” he asked. “How do I know if there's a sticker on there or not? I don't have a clue.”


>The company that makes the devices, ActivePure Technologies, said Shumaker was not an authorized or known salesperson of its products.


>The sting is a rare example of enforcement in an arena where money is gushing like a geyser but oversight is nearly nonexistent. Electronic air cleaners, heavily marketed to gyms, doctors’ offices and hospitals, companies and schools awash in federal COVID relief funds, tend to use high-voltage charges to alter molecules in the air. The companies selling the devices say they can destroy pathogens and clean the air.


Fauci says that based on current data from CDC, FDA, there's no need for booster shot
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/562439-fauci-says-that-based-on-current-data-from-cdc-fda-theres-no-need-for

>Anthony Fauci said on Sunday that there is no need for Americans to get a COVID-19 vaccine booster shot, according to current data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).


>On CNN’s “State of the Union,” host Jake Tapper asked the nation's leading infectious diseases expert if booster shots could theoretically help vulnerable people, referring to a Reuters report that said Israel would start offering a third Pfizer shot to adults it considered vulnerable.


>“Well, certainly they theoretically could. What the CDC and the FDA were saying, Jake, is that right now, given the data and the information we have, we do not need to give people a third shot, a boost superimposed upon the two doses you get with the mRNA and the one dose you get with [Johnson & Johnson],” Fauci said.


>However, Fauci said that research is currently being conducted to determine if this guidance will change. He cautioned that the current guidance did not imply it would not be changed later.


Is Mixing Vaccines More Effective?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2021-06-20/is-mixing-vaccines-more-effective

>In this week's edition of the Covid Q&A, we look at mixing shots. In hopes of making this very confusing time just a little less so, each week Bloomberg Prognosis is picking one question sent in by readers and putting it to experts in the field. This week's question comes to us from Rogelio in Manila, who has already received the Sinovac vaccine. But as the Chinese-developed vaccine has come under scrutiny for its effectiveness, Rogelio wonders if he should get a different shot as well. Rogelio asks:


>Can I take a Pfizer or Moderna shot after my Sinovac jabs?


>We’ve addressed a version of this question before, but it’s worth revisiting. Last week, we published an article on drug-company executives seeking to boost their own immunity by mixing shots. But it’s more than just a trend among wealthy people.


>“Mixing vaccine platforms —a method known as heterologous prime boost— has a long history in immunology as being far superior to multiple doses of the same vaccine,” says Ross Kedl, an immunologist at the University of Colorado Anschutz School of Medicine.


LONG THREAD on masks
https://twitter.com/trishgreenhalgh/status/1414294003479089154
>Do masks work? Why do some people claim they don’t work? Do they cause harm? What kinds of masks should we wear? How does masking need to change now we know that Covid is airborne? When can we stop wearing them?
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 No.372918

>>372911
why take that instead of zinc or vitamin D supplements
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 No.373218

>>372918
zinc increases testosterone and that would be bad for covid based on it targeting the 5ar testosterone precursor.

However as a supplement, I'm sure saw palmetto would help too to reduce covid severity.

I only know this because I looked up a lot of baldness research and when I saw covid acts through 5ar I knew instantly what stuff can help.

So yeah go to cvs and get a saw palmetto supplement, it may help reduce covid severity.
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 No.373241

>>373218
Btw this also correlates with some research saying men get more severe symptoms of covid. Based on men having more 5-alpha-reductase enzyme and DHT this would make sense.

Saw palmetto and Finasteride, dutasteride all reduce 5ar. Green tea might help too.

This also means baldcels and hairyfucks are at greater risk of severe covid.

>Conclusion: While men and women have the same prevalence, men with COVID-19 are more at risk for worse outcomes and death, independent of age.


https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.00152/full
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 No.378759

A Curious Union: Covid, Clorox, Cleveland Clinic, and the CDC Foundation
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/07/a-curious-union-covid-clorox-cleveland-clinic-and-the-cdc-foundation.html

>Yves here. This post calls out institutional and corporate profiteering via describing how, via donations of $1 million each to the Cleveland Clinic and the CDC Foundation, Clorox bought the use of their names to tout the highly dubious idea of using bleach as an anti-Covid measure.


>The story hammers the Clorox touts for one of Lambert’s key issues: Covid is an airborne disease. The idea that surfaces were a contagion vector was debunked quite a while back, airline hygiene theater notwithstanding.


>Although the author likely skipped further arguments over space and reader patience concerns, it fails to address is how bleach is a poor choice for anti-Covid sanitation even if fomite transmission were a real concern.


Most unvaccinated people have low incomes
https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccines-low-income-poor-workers-58698275-0451-4158-a967-37189dbf673c.html

>More than half of unvaccinated Americans live in households that make less than $50,000 annually, according to the latest Census Bureau data.


>Why it matters: Making it easier for the working poor to get the COVID-19 vaccine, without dinging their already-low incomes, could help boost the country's vaccination rates.


>The big picture: Vaccination has been politicized, but juggling work schedules and child care could be bigger factors than politics.


<"A lot of low-income workers are working hard to provide food and housing," said Julia Raifman, a health policy professor at Boston University. "That may mean it's hard for them to find a time to get vaccinated."

<Workers also may worry about having to take unpaid time off if they come down with any vaccine side effects. Raifman has heard anecdotal stories of employees receiving less favorable hours if they miss work.

>One-quarter of unvaccinated people who make less than $50,000 still say they either "definitely" or "probably" will get the vaccine, according to the Census Bureau. That rises to two-thirds of people when including those who are receptive or "unsure" about getting the vaccine.


Delta variant's spread among unvaccinated Californians threatens new surge of COVID cases, officials warn
https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/Delta-variant-s-spread-among-unvaccinated-16312867.php

>With nearly half of California residents still not fully immunized against COVID-19 and the highly infectious delta variant in wide circulation, the state could be facing a surge up to two-thirds the size of last summer’s wave of infection despite generally high vaccination rates, health officials said Tuesday.


>If such a surge materializes, it almost certainly will be far less deadly and disruptive than what the state endured over the winter, when more than 22,000 Californians died between Thanksgiving and the end of January and the state was largely shut down for several months.


>People who are not vaccinated are bearing the vast majority of disease burden, making up over 99% of hospitalizations and deaths, state officials said, and that trend is expected to continue.


>New cases have climbed slightly among the vaccinated over the past few weeks, and are now hovering just under 1 case a day per 100,000 vaccinated people. But they’ve spiked among those who are not vaccinated, from a low of roughly 3 cases a day per 100,000 unvaccinated people a month ago to about 5 cases per 100,000 currently.


Are D.C.’s Vaccine Incentives Working?
https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/523287/are-d-c-s-vaccine-incentives-working/

>The flat line is something to celebrate. When the mayor’s team started its “Take the Shot, DC Giveaway” program—at the encouragement of councilmembers and local advocates—vaccinations were steadily decreasing. According to DC Health data, 1,057 shots were administered on Saturday, June 19, the first day DC Health handed out gift cards. The day before, 1,172 shots were administered. Meaning the day the government started financial incentives, the city saw a 10 percent drop in vaccinations. The most shots administered last month was on June 4, at 2,142. Nowadays, D.C. averages 887 per week, according to the most recent DC Health data.


>Ashley says the District government is interested in creating more financial incentives—and the executive has a lot of money for this as allocated by the Council. The next one is likely tailored for young people, who have lower vaccination rates. D.C. is interested in following the lead of other cities and states that cover college tuition for young people that get the shot.


>D.C.’s vaccination rates are better than in most parts of the country. The city is one of the few jurisdictions across the country where at least 70 percent of the local population over 12 years old is at least partially vaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The adult population reached that milestone in early June. As of July 12, the CDC says 62.3 percent of the total population is at least partially vaccinated, and 54 percent is fully vaccinated.


‘People are going to die needlessly’: MSDH releases new guidelines in response to spike in Delta variant infections
https://mississippitoday.org/2021/07/09/msdh-releases-new-guidelines-in-response-to-delta-variant/

>State Health Officer, Dr. Thomas Dobbs, said that these recommendations were decided on because Mississippians collectively have not done what it takes to protect us all, and MSDH wants to give the most vulnerable individuals the best guidance so they can survive the Delta surge the state is facing.


>“At this pace, and given the sort of external dynamics that are in play here, we’re going to remain vulnerable for a long time,” Dobbs said. “I don’t think that we’re going to have some miraculous increase in our vaccination rate over the next few weeks, so people are going to die needlessly. And so when we look at who our most vulnerable people are, it’s going to be the people 65 and older, or who have chronic medical issues.”


>While MSDH has made these new recommendations, they are just that. Mississippi has had next to no COVID-related restrictions at the state level since Gov. Tate Reeves repealed most of them in March.


Southwest Missouri hospitals begin to surpass winter COVID-19 surge. St. Louis County warns of rising cases
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/southwest-missouri-hospitals-begin-to-surpass-winter-covid-19-surge-st-louis-county-warns-of/article_a65f379f-8bc5-5bf3-a017-0a43f4853e0e.html

>ST. LOUIS — Hospitals in southwest Missouri are beginning to surpass the level of COVID-19 patients seen in the winter of 2020, and St. Louis-area officials are bracing for infection rates to continue to rise here, too.


>On Monday, Mercy Hospital Springfield had more COVID-19 patients than at the peak in December, and Greene County’s infection rates showed no signs of retreat.


>“Not only are cases continuing to rise, but they’re rising faster,” said Aaron Schekorra, public health information administrator for the Springfield-Greene County Health Department.


>In the St. Louis region, hospitalizations for the virus have been increasing for three weeks. Health officials have warned that the more transmissible delta variant of COVID-19 is circulating here and have called on residents to get vaccinated to tamp down its spread.


>During a briefing Monday morning, St. Louis County Executive Sam Page said the county’s rate of new cases has risen 63% in two weeks.


>“We’re not expecting a slowdown anytime soon,” Page said.


In northeast Oklahoma hospital, beds are full again as COVID-19 delta variant takes hold
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2021/07/14/northeast-oklahoma-hospital-beds-fill-up-covid-delta-variant-takes-hold/7949330002/

>At Integris Miami Hospital in the northeast corner of Oklahoma, hospital beds are full again, like they were at the peak of the pandemic.


>Like everyone, hospitalist Dr. Justin Mitchell and his colleagues there hoped the worst of COVID-19 was behind them. They still do.


>“But it’s been ramping up quite a bit over the past month,” he said. “We went through a period at the height of the pandemic, where all of our COVID beds were consistently full, and anytime we were able to get someone out of hospital, there was someone waiting for that bed.”


>Eventually, that waned, and at one point, no COVID-19 patients were in the hospital. In recent months, patients resumed trickling in.


>Now, “all of our beds are full up again,” Mitchell said Tuesday. The vast majority of those patients are unvaccinated.
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 No.378781

Reprogrammed CRISPR-Cas13b suppresses SARS-CoV-2 replication and circumvents its mutational escape through mismatch tolerance
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-24577-9

>The recent dramatic appearance of variants of concern of SARS-coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) highlights the need for innovative approaches that simultaneously suppress viral replication and circumvent viral escape from host immunity and antiviral therapeutics. Here, we employ genome-wide computational prediction and single-nucleotide resolution screening to reprogram CRISPR-Cas13b against SARS-CoV-2 genomic and subgenomic RNAs. Reprogrammed Cas13b effectors targeting accessible regions of Spike and Nucleocapsid transcripts achieved >98% silencing efficiency in virus-free models.


>Further, optimized and multiplexed Cas13b CRISPR RNAs (crRNAs) suppress viral replication in mammalian cells infected with replication-competent SARS-CoV-2, including the recently emerging dominant variant of concern B.1.1.7. The comprehensive mutagenesis of guide-target interaction demonstrated that single-nucleotide mismatches does not impair the capacity of a potent single crRNA to simultaneously suppress ancestral and mutated SARS-CoV-2 strains in infected mammalian cells, including the Spike D614G mutant. The specificity, efficiency and rapid deployment properties of reprogrammed Cas13b described here provide a molecular blueprint for antiviral drug development to suppress and prevent a wide range of SARS-CoV-2 mutants, and is readily adaptable to other emerging pathogenic viruses.


Coronavirus Today: Where are the COVID-19 treatments?
https://www.latimes.com/science/newsletter/2021-07-13/covid-19-treatments-coronavirus-today

>COVID-19 vaccines have made it possible for us to return to an almost normal life. With case numbers at levels not seen since March 2020, it’s tempting to think that the threat of serious illness is behind us.


>But it’s not. Thousands of new coronavirus infections are being reported in the U.S. each day, and more than 2,500 COVID-19 patients are being admitted to hospitals every day, on average.


>It’s too late for vaccines to help these people. What they need is treatments. Which raises an important question that’s often overshadowed by news about the vaccination campaign: Where are the medicines to make people with COVID-19 better?


>So far, the Food and Drug Administration has approved only one new drug — the antiviral medication remdesivir — to treat COVID-19. Its modest yet statistically significant benefit in a government-sponsored clinical trial was seen as a pandemic turning point at a time when vaccines were still on the distant horizon.


>The FDA has also granted emergency use authorization to several monoclonal antibody treatments. These drugs are designed to work just like the natural antibodies your immune system makes in response to a vaccine or infection. The Regeneron drug that was used to treat former President Trump is in this category.


Transmission event of SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant reveals multiple vaccine breakthrough infections
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.28.21258780v1.full#T1

>High numbers of global SARS-CoV-2 infections have led to the emergence of variants, notably Alpha variant (B.1.1.7 UK), Beta (B.1.351 S. Africa), Gamma (P.1 Brazil), Epsilon (B.1.429 California), Iota (B.1.526 New York) and now, Delta and Kappa (B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.1 India). Each of these strains gained advantageous mutations to become a dominant strain, e.g., Iota first discovered November 23, 2020, represented 45% of new cases as of February 7, 20211. Increased transmissibility results from genomic changes such as nonsynonymous mutations in the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the S-gene (encodes the spike protein) conferring higher binding affinity to host angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptors or more efficient cleavage by Transmembrane Serine Protease 2 (TMPRSS2) and subsequently, viral entry2,3. Mutations could also lead to vaccine breakthrough4. The spike protein’s RBD is immunodominant5, targeted by convalescent sera and vaccine-elicited antibodies (Pfizer BNT162b26), though evidence suggest substantial role of the amino-terminal domain (NTD). Mutations in the RBD therefore pose a risk of allowing immune evasion to one or more of the current vaccines4. The Kappa and Delta variants emerged from the Indian state of Maharashtra in December 2020, contributing to a resurgence of cases in the country, representing 70% of daily new cases on May 2, 20217. The B.1.617 lineage is now widely circulating in over 50 countries based on viral sequence data and is classified as a variant of concern by the CDC. The Kappa and Delta variant lineages are defined by 7 and 8 nonsynonymous mutations in the S protein respectively


>Emergent data suggests partial immunity to the Kappa variant, as convalescent sera and vaccine-elicited (Pfizer BNT162b2 and Moderna mRNA-1273) antibodies show a 2.3- and 4-fold reduction in neutralization in vitro respectively (noting that this study used protein-pseudotyped lentiviruses lacking the T478K mutation found in Delta variant)8. A test negative case control study estimated the effectiveness of vaccination (two weeks post second vaccination) against symptomatic disease by Delta variant to be as high as 88% for Pfizer BNT162b2 in the UK (compared to 93% for Alpha variant)9.


>Here we describe a transmission of a Delta variant containing SARS-CoV-2 strain, between family members associated with events surrounding a wedding with 92 attendees, near Houston, Texas. Attendance required guests be fully vaccinated and took place outdoors in a large, open-air tent. To date, 6 individuals have tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, all patients were symptomatic, one patient severely enough to receive monoclonal antibody infusion treatment (Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc.) and one patient has died. Encounter timings and viral sequence similarities suggest the strain containing the Delta variant was transmitted to wedding guests from two patients travelling from India. With no history of vaccine failure in these patients, our observations suggest these are true cases of vaccine breakthrough, mediated by the Delta variant.


CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccination
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/covid-breakthrough-cases-cdc-says-more-than-4100-people-have-been-hospitalized-or-died-after-vaccination.html

>More than 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid-19 in the U.S. even though they've been fully vaccinated, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


>So far, at least 750 fully vaccinated people have died after contracting Covid, but the CDC noted that 142 of those fatalities were asymptomatic or unrelated to Covid-19, according to data as of Monday that was released Friday.


>The CDC received 3,907 reports of people who have been hospitalized with breakthrough Covid infections, despite being fully vaccinated. Of those, more than 1,000 of those patients were asymptomatic or their hospitalizations weren't related to Covid-19, the CDC said.


>"To be expected," Dr. Paul Offit, a top advisor to the Food and Drug Administration on children's vaccines told CNBC. "The vaccines aren't 100% effective, even against severe disease. Very small percentage of the 600,000 deaths."


>Breakthrough cases are Covid-19 infections that bypass vaccine protection. They are very rare and many are asymptomatic. The vaccines are highly effective but don't block every infection. Pfizer and Moderna's phase three clinical studies found that their two-dose regimens were 95% and 94% effective at blocking Covid-19, respectively, while Johnson & Johnson's one-shot vaccine was found to be 66% effective in its studies. All three, however, have been found to be extremely effective in preventing people from getting severely sick from Covid.


>The CDC doesn't count every breakthrough case. It stopped counting all breakthrough cases May 1 and now only tallies those that lead to hospitalization or death, a move the agency was criticized for by health experts.


Infection and Vaccine-Induced Neutralizing-Antibody Responses to the SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617 Variants
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2107799?query=featured_home

>A second wave of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections in India is leading to the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants. The B.1.617.1 (or kappa) and B.1.617.2 (or delta) variants were first identified in India and have rapidly spread to several countries throughout the world. These variants contain mutations within the spike protein located in antigenic sites recognized by antibodies with potent neutralizing activity.1-3 We used serum samples obtained from infected and vaccinated persons to assess neutralizing activity against the SARS-CoV-2 variants in a live-virus assay.
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 No.378787

Strategies to minimize SARS-CoV-2 transmission in classroom settings: Combined impacts of ventilation and mask effective filtration efficiency
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23744731.2021.1944665

>Strong evidence exists indicating that aerosol transmission of the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 is a significant transmission modality. We experimentally evaluated the impact of ventilation on aerosol dynamics and distribution along with the effective filtration efficiency (EFE) of four different mask types, with and without mask fitters, in a classroom setting. These were used to estimate aerosol conditional infection probability using the Wells-Riley model for three scenarios with different ventilation and mask interventions. Aerosol measurements confirmed that aerosol in the room was uniform within a factor of 2 for distances >2 m from the source. Mask EFE results demonstrate that most masks fit poorly with estimated leakage rates typically >50%. However, EFEs approaching the mask material FE were achievable using mask fitters. Infection probability estimates indicate that ventilation alone is not able to achieve probabilities <0.01 (1%). The use of moderate to high EFE masks reduces infection probability, > 5x in some cases. Reductions provided by ventilation and masks are synergistic and multiplicative. The results reinforce the use of properly donned masks to achieve reduced aerosol transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and other infectious diseases and motivate improvements in the EFE of masks through improved design or use of mask fitters.


Sinovac-produced antibodies 'halve every 40 days'
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2147667/sinovac-produced-antibodies-halve-every-40-days

>Antibody levels in people fully vaccinated with the Sinovac vaccine decline by half every 40 days, according to findings from a joint study between Thammasat University's faculty of medicine and the National Centre for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology (Biotec).


>The findings were revealed by Anan Jongkaewwattana, director of Veterinary Health Innovation and Management Research Group of Biotec.


>Mr Anan wrote on Facebook that their study of 500 people, who received two doses of Sinovac, indicated that the level of antibodies drops by 50% every 40 days. The level of antibodies in people who received a second jab more than 60 days after the first was on average lower than that of those who got the second dose in less than 60 days, he said.


>Mr Anan said the vaccine potency within 60 days of the second shot is between 60%-70% against the original strain. The potency against the original strain declines to about 50% in those receiving the second shot for over 60 days.


>However, no data is available about the potency of two doses of Sinovac against variants, especially the highly contagious Alpha and Delta strains.


Tennessee fires top vaccine official as COVID-19 shows signs of new spread
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2021/07/12/tennessee-fires-top-vaccine-official-covid-19-shows-new-spread/7928699002/

>The Tennessee state government on Monday fired its top vaccination official, becoming the latest of about two dozen states to lose years of institutional knowledge about vaccines in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.


>The termination comes as the virus shows new signs of spread in Tennessee, and the more-transmissible delta variant surfaces in greater numbers.


>Dr. Michelle Fiscus, the medical director for vaccine-preventable diseases and immunization programs at the Tennessee Department of Health, said she was fired on Monday afternoon and provided a copy of her termination letter. It provides no explanation for her termination.


>Fiscus said she was a scapegoat who was terminated to appease state lawmakers angry about the department's efforts to vaccinate teenagers against coronavirus. The agency has been dialing back efforts to vaccinate teenagers since June.


>"It was my job to provide evidence-based education and vaccine access so that Tennesseans could protect themselves against COVID-19," Fiscus said in a written statement. "I have now been terminated for doing exactly that."
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 No.382377

>>378787
Neutralisation of SARS-CoV-2 lineage P.1 by antibodies elicited through natural SARS-CoV-2 infection or vaccination with an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine: an immunological study
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00129-4/fulltext

>Mutations accrued by SARS-CoV-2 lineage P.1—first detected in Brazil in early January, 2021—include amino acid changes in the receptor-binding domain of the viral spike protein that also are reported in other variants of concern, including B.1.1.7 and B.1.351. We aimed to investigate whether isolates of wild-type P.1 lineage SARS-CoV-2 can escape from neutralising antibodies generated by a polyclonal immune response.


WHO says 'catastrophic waves' of new delta variant cases are driven by greed
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/562672-who-says-catastrophic-waves-of-new-delta-variant

>World Health Organization Leader Tedros Adhanom Gebreyesus said Monday that “greed” is driving persistent vaccine inequality as the highly infectious delta variant creates a “catastrophic wave of cases” across the globe.


>“We’re in the midst of a growing two-track pandemic where the haves and have-nots within and between countries are increasingly divergent,” Tedros said, adding that the delta variant, which has spread to 104 countries, is exponentially increasing the number of hospitalizations.


>“Even countries that successfully managed to ward off the early waves of the virus through public health measures alone, are now in the midst of devastating outbreaks,” he added.


>Data shows that around 25 percent of the world’s population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. Yet roughly 1 percent of people from low-income countries are partially vaccinated. Nearly 68 percent of U.S. adults had had one at least one shot.


Viral infection and transmission in a large well-traced outbreak caused by the Delta SARS-CoV-2 variant
https://virological.org/t/viral-infection-and-transmission-in-a-large-well-traced-outbreak-caused-by-the-delta-sars-cov-2-variant/724

>We report the first local transmission of the Delta SARS-CoV-2 variant in mainland China. All 167 infections could be traced back to the first index case. The investigation on daily sequential PCR testing of the quarantined subjects indicated the viral load of the first positive test of Delta infections was ~1000 times higher than that of the 19A/19B strains infections back in the initial epidemic wave of 2020, suggesting the potential faster viral replication rate and more infectiousness of the Delta variant at the early stage of the infection. The 126 high-quality sequencing data and reliable epidemiological data indicated some minor intra-host single nucleotide variants (iSNVs) could be transmitted between hosts and finally fixed in the virus population during the outbreak. The minor iSNVs transmission between donor-recipient contribute at least 4 of 31 substitutions identified in the outbreak suggesting some iSNVs could quickly arise and reach fixation when the virus spread rapidly. Disease control measures, including the frequency of population testing, quarantine in pre-symptomatic phase and enhancing the genetic surveillance should be adjusted to account for the increasing prevalence of the Delta variant at global level.


>During the global spread of SARS-CoV-2, the genetic variants of the viruses emerged, and some have been proved to be more transmissible or could escape from the host immunity, which posed an increased risk to global public health1–3. An emerging genetic lineage, B.1.617, has been dominant in the largest outbreak of COVID-19 in India since March 2021, gaining global attention. One sublineage, B.1.617.2, with spike protein mutations L452R, T478K and P681R, accounts for ~28% sequenced cases in Indian and rapidly replaced other lineages to become dominant in multiple regions and countries (https://outbreak.info/)4. The B.1.617.2 has been labeled as Variant of Concern (VOC), Delta (https://www.who.int/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants). The virological profile of this VOC is needed to be urgently illustrated.

On May 21, 2021 the first local infection of the Delta variant in mainland China was identified. Similar to what has been done to the early epidemic in January 20205, strict interventions including population screen testing, activate contact tracing, and central quarantine/isolation have been carried out. However, in contrast to the restricted transmissions in 20205, a successive intergenerational transmission has been observed in the 2021 epidemic. Here, we investigated the epidemiological, genetic, and serological data from this well-traced outbreak to characterize the virological profile of the Delta SARS-CoV-2 variant and discuss how the intervention strategies need to be improved on the racing against this emerging variant.

SARS-CoV-2 testing and sequencing for international arrivals reveals significant cross border transmission of high risk variants into the United Kingdom
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00301-1/fulltext

>Mandatory Day 2 and Day 8 PCR testing and variant sequencing of international arrivals has been recently introduced by the UK Government to mitigate against cross-border transmission of high-risk SARS-CoV-2 variants.


>SARS-CoV-2 testing and sequencing combines TaqPath CE-IVD COVID-19 RT-PCR with Ion AmpliSeq SARS-CoV-2 Next Generation Sequencing Assay. Retrospective analysis of test trending data was performed from initiation of testing on the 11th March through to the 14th April 2021.


During this time interval, 203,065 SARS-CoV-2 PCR tests were performed, with 3,855 samples testing positive, giving a prevalence of 1.9%. In total 1,913 SARS-CoV-2 genomes were sequenced from positive cases with Ct values < 30 and 1,635 (85.5%) sequences passed quality metrics for lineage analysis. A high diversity of 49 different SARS-CoV-2 variants were identified, including the VOCs B.1.1.7 (Kent; 80.6%), B.1.351 (South Africa; 4.2%), B.1.617.2 (India; 1.7%), P.1 (Brazil; 0.4%) and B.1.1.7 with E484K (Bristol; 0.2%). Vaccine effectiveness was age-related and dose-dependent, ranging from 5% in > 60 with a single dose to 83% in <60 with both doses of a vaccine. Viral load was variant dependent with the B.1.617.2 showing a 21 fold increase in viral copy number compared to the other variants.

>The unexpectedly high prevalence of COVID-19 infection in UK arrivals is associated with a rich diversity of SARS-CoV-2 high risk variants entering the UK including the VOC B.1.617.2. Vaccination does not preclude infection and its effectiveness is significantly age-dependent and impacted by variant type. The rapid high-throughput test and sequence workflow we have adopted is particularly suited to the monitoring of cross border transmission and enables immediate public health interventions.


=Israeli study of breakthrough infections following full BNT-Pfizer vaccination, 40% immunocompromised==
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210713/Israeli-study-of-breakthrough-infections-following-full-BNT-Pfizer-vaccination-4025-immunocompromised.aspx

>In Phase III clinical trials, two mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer/BioNTech's BNT162b2 and Moderna's mRNA-1273) were shown to be 94-95% effective in preventing symptomatic forms of the disease. Moreover, similar efficacy was observed in different age groups, as well as in those older than 75 and those with comorbidities.


>Israel's vaccination campaign was swift, effective, and had a significant impact on the local COVID-19 dynamics. Factors that played a huge role here were small geographical and population size, advanced informatization, as well as effective cooperation between the government and the community-based health funds.


>However, there is not enough data on the nature of breakthrough infections with COVID-19 vaccines that we started to observe even in highly vaccinated populations like Israel. Furthermore, we lack data on the clinical traits and serologic correlates of protection of individuals hospitalized with COVID-19 after they have received their jabs.


>According to the Israeli Ministry of Health registry, by the end of April 2021, a total of 397 fully vaccinated patients were hospitalized with the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) after their second vaccine dose – with 234 of them suffering severe COVID-19 and 90 of them succumbing to the disease.


Covid: Younger adults still at risk of serious organ damage - study
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57840825

>Four in 10 of those between 19 and 49 developed problems with their kidneys, lungs or other organs while treated.


>The research looked at 73,197 adults of all ages across 302 UK hospitals in the first wave of Covid in 2020.


>"The message is that this is not just a disease of the elderly and frail," said Prof Calum Semple, who led the work.


>"The data reinforces the fact that Covid is not flu and we are seeing even young adults coming into hospital suffering significant complications, some of which will require furthering monitoring and potentially further treatment in the future."
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 No.382389

Long Covid Has Over 200 Symptoms And Leaves 1 In 5 Unable To Work, Study Finds
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/07/15/long-covid-has-over-200-symptoms-and-leaves-1-in-5-unable-to-work-study-finds/

>Covid long haulers reported a total of 203 different symptoms in the seven months between Dec. 2019 and May 2020, ranging from rashes, peeling skin and digestive issues to muscle spasms, hearing loss and tinnitus, according to research published in the Lancet’s E Clinical Medicine journal.


>The study, based on surveys from nearly 4,000 people from 56 countries, identified fatigue, brain fog and post-exertional malaise (where symptoms worsen after physical or mental effort) as the most common symptoms.


>On average, patients suffered from 56 different symptoms and those still suffering after six months—nearly two-thirds of participants taking the survey—were still experiencing an average of 14 symptoms.


>Almost half (45%) of the study’s participants reported needing a reduced work schedule on account of their illness and around one-fifth (22%) were unable to work at all.


>Dr. Athena Akrami, a neuroscientist at University College London and senior author of the study, said it highlights “a clear need to widen medical guidelines” to assess a wider range of symptoms than respiratory and cardiovascular issues for long Covid.”


U.K. Warns Covid Curbs May Return If Cases Get Out of Control
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-16/u-k-warns-covid-curbs-may-return-if-cases-get-out-of-control

>The U.K. held out the prospect of restoring some Covid-19 restrictions amid a surge in new cases, just three days before it plans to drop all remaining social distancing rules.


>“Of course if we get into a situation where it’s unacceptable and we do need to put back further restrictions, then that of course is something the government will look at,” Lucy Frazer, a government minister, told Sky News on Friday.


>The remarks from Frazer, the government’s solicitor general, are the most explicit yet that Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s stated wish for the current unlocking to be “irreversible” may be confounded by the progression of the virus.


>The U.K. reported 48,553 new coronavirus cases on Thursday and the number of people in hospital rose 42.8% in a week. The wave of infections from the highly transmissible delta variant is now causing staffing problems for some British employers.


Factbox: Coronavirus outbreaks at the Tokyo Olympics
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/coronavirus-incidents-tokyo-olympics-2021-07-15/

>TOKYO, July 16 (Reuters) - The Tokyo 2020 Olympics, postponed for a year due to the coronavirus pandemic, will be held under unprecedented conditions and tight quarantine rules to prevent the spread of COVID-19 infections.


>Yet a number of cases have emerged involving athletes and other people involved with the Games.


Virus spreads in S. Korean regions with lighter restrictions
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/virus-spreads-in-s-korean-regions-with-lighter-restrictions/

>SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea reported a near-high in coronavirus infections Thursday as a weekslong surge extends beyond the capital region and the country’s toughest pandemic restrictions.


>The surge, increasingly fueled by the more contagious delta variant, is a worrisome development in a country where 70% of the population is waiting for their first vaccine dose. It further erases what had been a success story in the pandemic and underscores the challenges policymakers face in balancing measures to control virus outbreaks without further damaging their economy.


>“Over the past week, there has been a clear increase in the speed of transmissions not only in the (Seoul) metropolitan area but also in non-metropolitan areas,” said Bae Kyung-taek, a senior Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency official, during a briefing. “We ask our people to cancel unnecessary meetings and refrain from going out as much as possible.”


>Thursday’s 1,600 new cases nearly matched South Korea’s high from a day earlier and was the ninth straight day exceeding 1,000. The country’s caseload is now 173,511, including 2,050 deaths.


The Next Covid-19 Battle Will Be About Vaccinating Kids
https://www.wired.com/story/the-next-covid-19-battle-will-be-about-vaccinating-kids/

>On Monday, the Tennessee Department of Health fired its top vaccine official, Michelle Fiscus. Her transgression: In May, she had sent a memo to pharmacies and physicians in the state, relaying a Tennessee Supreme Court decision that allows teens to seek medical care, including vaccinations, without their parents’ consent. At the time, the Food and Drug Administration had just authorized the Pfizer vaccine for 12- to 17-year-olds, and one for the Moderna vaccine was soon to follow.


>Fiscus’ memo was approved by the governor’s staff, and it contained no policy changes. The legal ruling it discussed was handed down in 1987. State legislators, though, accused her of “prodding” children to seek the vaccine. She was summoned to two hearings; at one, a legislator proposed dissolving the entire state health department in retaliation.


>In a statement she gave to The Tennessean Monday evening, Fiscus said that, to protect itself, the department has shut down all its communication campaigns about vaccination. “Not just Covid-19 vaccine outreach for teens, but ALL communications around vaccines of any kind,” she wrote. “No back-to-school messaging to the more than 30,000 parents who did not get their children measles vaccines last year due to the pandemic. No messaging around human papillomavirus vaccine to the residents of the state with one of the highest HPV cancer rates in the country.” (On Tuesday, The Tennessean confirmed that vaccine promotion, and vaccination clinics held at schools, had been shut down.)


>Fiscus’ firing came two days after a crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Dallas cheered an announcement that the Biden administration hasn’t achieved its goal of getting one dose of vaccine into 70 percent of Americans by July 4th. It also came three days after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention relaxed the agency’s previous guidelines about wearing masks inside school buildings. Add those events together, and they’re a storm siren for the next Covid battle, this time over vaccinating children—which will arrive as the virus’s Delta variant advances and the school year is about to begin.


Norwegian Cruise Line sues Florida over ban on Covid vaccine passports
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/14/norwegian-cruise-company-sues-florida-ban-covid-vaccine-passports

>A cruise ship company has filed a federal lawsuit against the Florida surgeon general, over a state law that prohibits companies from asking or requiring customers and employees to be vaccinated against Covid-19.

As Covid cases rise in Florida, Governor DeSantis digs at Fauci with merchandise
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>According to the complaint filed in the southern district of Florida by Norwegian Cruise Lines Holdings, the suit is a “last resort” after the state “indicated it is otherwise preventing NCLH from safely and soundly resuming passenger cruise operations”.


>The cruise line intends to ask for documentation confirming guests’ vaccination status before boarding.


>In its complaint, it says the state law places it “in an impossible dilemma as it prepares to set sail from Florida: NCLH will find itself either on the wrong side of health and safety and the operative federal legal framework, or else on the wrong side of Florida law”.


>The company names the surgeon general, Dr Scott Rivkees, as defendant, in his capacity as “the responsible state official”, and asks the court both to grant a preliminary injunction to allow it to resume sailing with protocols in place, and to invalidate the Florida statute.
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 No.382925

In the interest of breaking up the wooswoos spam, what do y'all think is gonna happen this winter irt lockdowns etc? I know biden was dogwhistling about Dark Winter several months ago but the whole "cyber pandemic" the WEF precdicted hasn't manifested yet. Obviously there have been big attacks on pipelines and other infrastructure but nothing comprehensive. I'm preparing for the grid to go down personally.
>inb4 take your meds
remember that the solarwinds hack gave whoever perpetrated it *cough US deep state and mossad* access to the servers of several important government agencies and it might take years to root them out completely. they could do anything they wanted
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 No.382979

>>382925
Economy left open but mass casualties from deadlier variants, Trump 2.0 handles it as poorly as the original.
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 No.384073

>>382925
what wooswoos spam? take your meds
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 No.384969

>>384073
I saw the wall of articles and assumed it was the wooswoos spammer. regardless it clutters up the thread. no one should be taking the msm narrative on covid seriously anyway
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 No.384995

>>382925
Xey will declare that you will have to "live with the virus" aka let it spread freely

Sleepy Joe will kill numerous Amerilards
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 No.385040


>>382389
>long covid
How much of this is hypochondriac stuff from people being fed panic by the media 24/7?
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 No.385042

It's unbelievable how the world has come to a halt and millions of people have lost their income and their freedoms over a meme flu.
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 No.385540

>>385042
It's quite believable if you consider the massive corporations and banks have made huge profits from it, that workers will endure lower wages and less freedom.
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 No.385546

>>385040
about 20%
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 No.385547

>>385042
>millions dead
>meme flu
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 No.385554

>>385547
Callousness about death and suffering is a pathological symptom. Or it's indicating being fourteen.
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 No.385560

>>385042
It's called "dealing with the consequences of healthcare systems gutted by 30 years of neoliberalism". Just 1% of the population of the country needing hospitalization in a short period of time is enought to make the whole thing collapse.
The "granny will die anyway lol" stance was initially adopted by Johson, but it quickly showed its limits

>>385554
You right man, bugchase all the way #YOLO
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 No.385564

>>385560
No, to "bugchase" is pathological.
You didn't read my post and assumed it to say something totally different, right?
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 No.385577

>>385564
I'm ESL and didn't know the meaning of callousness, and i failed to deduce it from the context. Shameful display.
Brb kms.
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>potholer
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 No.385848

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>Three fully vaccinated state congressmen from Texas have Symptomatic COVID
>UK health-minister who has already received two vaccinations has COVID with 'Mild symptoms'
<"B…B…BUT…NOOOOO THIS WASN'T HOW IT WAS MEANT TO BE!!!11!!!! DOC FAUCI PROMISED!!! WHEN I TOOK THE SCIENCE JOOCE I WOULD BE FREE!!!!??? NO NO NO WHAT HAVE I DONE??? DIDN'T THE HEART PALPATATION AND THE BLOOD CLOT IN MY LUNG MEAN IT WAS WORKING???!!!!??? N…NO WHAT HAVE I DONE…"
<*Two minutes later*
<"UMM NO SWEETY YOU'VE ACTUALLY ALWAYS NEEDED TO TAKE FIVE VACCINES FOR IT TO WORK THATS WHAT DOC FAUCI IS SAYING NO ONE EVER SAID IT ONLY TOOK TWO DOSES! THATS RUSHIAN HACKER AND CHINKOS TRICKING YOU!"
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 No.385859

>>385848
All I want is dead americans but I feel the need to point out that is impressively deranged even for you.
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 No.385872

>>385848
Gem

But seriously bong boomers got a shit vaccine with like 70% effectiveness or something, even worse against new strains so it isn't too crazy
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 No.385880

>>385848
nobody ever said the vaccine is 100% effective fuckwit
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 No.385883

>>385040
95%
if the media had never said anything no one other than doctors in big cities would have noticed an especially strong flu strain was going around. this whole thing is essentially a hoax to sell experimental gene therapy "vaccines" and usher in the great reset
>>385547
>millions dead every year
>lots of them test "positive" for covid in the morgue cause pcr tests are being run at 40 cycles
>meanwhile excess deaths from respiratory pathology were negligible after april 2020
it's another spanish flu guise! cnn told me so! why aren't you scared? validate my bourgeois hypochondria reeeee
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 No.385887

>>385883
Die of Tetanus
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 No.385889

>>385848
how is life being this retarded? do you get to wear adult diapers?
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 No.385908

>>385872
AZ got to 80-90 on later tests on the old strain

its the one with the blood clots also btw
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 No.385929

>>385560
>1% of the population of the country needing hospitalization
How do you know whether this is actually the case as opposed to people who don't need to be hospitalized being hospitalized?
>>385547
Yeah, people die every year. Covid didn't invent death.
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 No.385995

>>385929
Are you over or under 14?
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 No.386129

>>385929
people were deliberately killed in hospital with ventilators and in nursing homes by sending positive cases back to them from hospital. my schizo communist friend lives in an assisted living facility for crazy people basically and they forced him to get the jab, too. this whole thing reeks of eugenics. not to mention how masks have become a class signifier. "we're above the unwashed masses" etc.
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 No.386132

>>386129
I say deliberately because better treatments were available we were just prevented from using them (at least in burgerstan)
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 No.386137

Professor Richard Wolff: This Economy Cannot Survive The Delta Variant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ1j3QVBb88
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 No.386150

>>385929
Because for a long time in my country you weren't supposed to call the hospital unless you struggled to breath. They absolutely wanted to avoid hospitalizations to avoid the PR disaster that would be doctors letting patients die in the corridors.
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 No.386158

>>386150
This doesn't really contradict what I said.
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 No.386166

>>386158
It does though
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 No.386172

>>386166
>feed the population panic the whole day about literal new bubonic plague
>hypochondriacs wanting to get hospitalized at unprecedented rates
>doctors can't send them home because otherwise, they'll be deemed heartless or irresponsible
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 No.386175

>>386172
>I am not crazy, it's everyone else that is collectively crazy
love the transparency
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 No.386191

>>386175
Just stay at home five more years and wear a double mask.
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 No.386194

>>386172
Hypondriacs harassed their private practice doctors on the phone but were scarred of being hospitalized because they thought they would catch a more virulent strain over there.
t. lived with one.
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 No.386198

>>386191
I never stayed home.
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 No.386226

>>386175
this but unironically. covid is weaponised mass hysteria and I'm tired of people treating ME like I'm the crazy one for believing "it's just a flu bro"
>>386198
why are you trying to kill my grandma?
just kidding she already died from lockdown stress
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 No.386231

>>386226
Hope you manage to at least expire in a comical and painful way.
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 No.386294

>>386231
>lockdowners are tolera-
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 No.386319

>>386294
No idea where you get that, but if they are honest no one would tolerate bugchasers.
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 No.386324

>>386319
>not being scared of the new virus makes you akin to people who deliberately get aids
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 No.386327

>>386324
Overloading the hospitals does. I do not care one bit if you expire or what you are scared of.
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 No.386335

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>>386324
Reminder India is still burning bodies.
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 No.386337

>>386327
most hospitals were deserted thanks to the suspension of elective procedures though
>hurr durr hope you die
not an argument. I assume you guys are always so hostile because you know the facts aren't actually on your side
>>386335
india is always burning bodies you fucking cumskin. they're hindus. that's what they do
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 No.386341

>>386337
In america? lol I am quite sure you are lying. But who cares.
In all the countries I know about hospitals were full.
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 No.386344

>>386341
also it is about ICUs not hospitals per se.
did not think that needed to be clarified. And of course most people think bugchasers should stop existing.
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 No.387686

Looks like Vietnam got their defenses breached almost 6 000 new cases reported yesterday. More than in all 2020.
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 No.390743

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How Delta is pushing the U.S. into a new phase of the Covid-19 pandemic
https://www.statnews.com/2021/07/19/delta-vaccines-new-phase-pandemic/

>So, how well is the country preventing hospitalizations and deaths right now?


>The answer is nuanced. Vaccines are absolutely helping blunt the impact of these outbreaks — both the size and the toll in sickness and death. But vaccine uptake isn’t to the point yet where it can preclude increases in hospitalizations and deaths.


>Put another way, without vaccines, the outbreaks in Nevada, Missouri, Arkansas, and elsewhere with low immunization rates would be worse, and other states would be more vulnerable to similar spikes.


>“This is a new phase of the pandemic,” Jay Butler, the deputy director for infectious diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said at a press briefing last week. “We’re seeing positive effects of the vaccination problem, but at the same time … it ain’t over ’til it’s over. We’re continuing to see transmission occurring, and we have a significant portion of the population that is unimmunized.”


<“This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said Friday.[emphasis mine]


Pediatrics group says kids should wear masks at school; Canada reopens border to Americans: Live COVID-19 updates
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/07/19/covid-vaccine-variant-mask-restrictions-hospitalizations/8008947002/

>Dr. Sonja O’Leary, chair of the AAP Council on School Health, said the pandemic has taken a "heartbreaking toll" on children.


>“We need to prioritize getting children back into schools alongside their friends and their teachers – and we all play a role in making sure it happens safely,” O’Leary said.


>The announcement comes as new coronavirus cases are rising across the nation. Infections rose in all 50 states on Sunday for the fourth day in a row on a rolling seven-day average, an ominous run not seen since the spring 2020 surge.


>The weekly rolling average for cases in the United States has nearly tripled in the last month. The pace of deaths also is up sharply – 24.7% from its low point two weeks ago. It also comes as Canada is planning to reopen its borders to vaccinated Americans and guidance from both the CDC and State Department advising against traveling to the United Kingdom due to the growth of the contagious Delta variant.


Delta fears grip economy as cases jump across the country
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/563769-delta-fears-grip-economy-as-cases-jump-across-the-country?userid=175817

>Health officials have described the latest stage of the coronavirus as a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" [emph added] while emphasizing that those who have had their shots are relatively safe.


>Yet Los Angeles County on Saturday reinstated a mask mandate for indoor public settings, a sign that local communities may decide to reimpose restrictions as a safety measure.


>An Olympic gymnast and an Olympic women’s basketball player both announced they had tested positive as they prepared for the Games, which is being held in a state of emergency in Tokyo where the rate of vaccinations is behind the United States.


Delta Variant — and County Inaction — Pushing Los Angeles Toward a COVID Emergency
https://capitalandmain.com/delta-variant-and-county-inaction-pushing-los-angeles-toward-a-covid-emergency

>But despite the spike in L.A. cases and the unquestioned evidence that the Delta strain is a “nasty variant,” in the words of White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci, Ferrer has made no forceful move to enact rules that would make the county more restrictive than anywhere else in California.


>While that approach may strike some as measured, the stakes are higher in Los Angeles. The county accounts for a quarter of the state’s population, but 33% of California’s COVID cases and 39% of its deaths. Its and its dense urban areas are populated by some of the racial and ethnic groups that remain at the greatest risk of COVID infection and hospitalization.


>As the Los Angeles Times noted, the COVID case rate for Black residents of the county rose 18% from mid-May to mid-June, even as it declined 4% for Latinos, 6% for whites and 25% for Asian American residents. The hospitalization rate for Black residents also increased 11%, while the other three groups all saw declines.


>Vaccination numbers lie at the heart of some of those disparities. Currently, the lowest rates of vaccination in the county among any racial, ethnic or age group are for Black and Latino young adults. With the Delta variant coming on strong, and absent a major push into those communities the likes of which has not happened for 15 months, those numbers are almost certain to worsen.


L.A. County coronavirus spike hits alarming levels, with 10,000 infected in a week, as Delta variant spreads
https://news.yahoo.com/l-county-coronavirus-spike-hits-120023795.html

>Fully vaccinated people are extraordinarily protected from severe disease, hospitalization and death from COVID-19, and experts across the nation say the worst effects of this surge are falling almost all on the unvaccinated. Unvaccinated people in L.A. County comprised 98.7% of COVID-19 hospitalizations and 99.8% of deaths between Dec. 7 and June 7, and not a single fully vaccinated person has been hospitalized for COVID-19 at L.A. County's massive public hospital system.


>"The hospitals will never be like how they used to be before," said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, infectious diseases expert at UC San Francisco.


>About 53% of L.A. County residents are fully vaccinated, and 60% are at least partially vaccinated, but that still means there are millions of people who remain vulnerable to the ravages of COVID-19. Experts have guessed that 70% to 85% of a population will need to be immune to block ongoing transmission of the coronavirus.


>Dr. Jerome Adams, former surgeon general, urged the CDC to hold up L.A. County's mask policy as an example and advise masking up in communities with surging cases and rising rates of positive tests. “The emerging data suggests CDC should be advising to vax it AND mask it in areas with [rising] cases and positivity—until we see numbers going back down again,” Adams tweeted.


>Federal officials have said L.A. County's new order was reasonable. “And I anticipate that will happen in other parts of the country, too,” the current surgeon general, Dr. Vivek Murthy, said on ABC’s “This Week.”
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 No.390765

>>390743
Covid: Boris Johnson resisted autumn lockdown as only over-80s dying - Dominic Cummings
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-57854811

>On 13 October, with Covid deaths having risen to more than 100 a day, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer called for a "circuit-breaker" lockdown of two to three weeks, but the government decided against this.


>In a WhatsApp message sent on 15 October, shared with the BBC, Mr Johnson appears to have described himself as "slightly rocked by some of the data on Covid fatalities".


>The "median age" for those dying was between 81 and 82 for men and 85 for women, the prime minister allegedly wrote, adding: "That is above life expectancy. So get Covid and Live longer.


>"Hardly anyone under 60 goes into hospital… and of those virtually all survive. And I no longer buy all this NHS overwhelmed stuff. Folks I think we may need to recalibrate… There are max 3m in this country aged over 80."


>He reportedly went on to write: "It shows we don't go for nationwide lockdown."


>But on 31 October the prime minister announced a four-week lockdown for England to begin on 5 November, saying this was needed to protect the NHS as figures suggested deaths could reach "several thousand a day" without "tough action".


>Speaking on Tuesday, Business Minister Paul Scully defended the PM's actions during the autumn, adding that economic restrictions also had an impact on people's health and lives and "you have to take all of those factors into account".


>He said the 17-day so-called firebreak lockdown in Wales, introduced around two weeks before England's autumn lockdown, "didn't have a particularly big effect at the time".


>"These decisions are not quite as black and white as necessarily we can make them now," he told Radio 4's Today programme.


U.S. Raises U.K. Travel Alert as Covid Mars ‘Freedom Day’
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-19/cdc-raises-covid-warning-to-highest-level-for-travelers-to-u-k

>Americans should avoid traveling to the U.K. because of a surge in that nation’s spread of Covid-19, U.S. government and health officials warned.


>The U.S. State Department issued its “do not travel” statement after the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention boosted its travel alert to “Very High,” citing a surge in cases that puts even fully vaccinated travelers at risk for contracting and spreading coronavirus variants. Any travelers to the U.K. should wear a mask and stay at least 6 feet (1.8 meters) from other people, the CDC said.


Covid vaccine certificates to be compulsory for crowded venues in England
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/19/covid-certificates-to-be-compulsory-for-crowded-venues-in-england

>Unlike at pilot events, where customers have been allowed to show evidence of a negative test, they will have to prove they have been double-jabbed amid concerns in government about vaccine uptake among young people. Approximately 35% of 18- to 30-year-olds are unvaccinated, he said.


>Addressing younger people directly, Johnson said: “Some of life’s most important pleasures and opportunities are likely to be increasingly dependent on vaccination.”


>Less than 18 hours after almost all Covid restrictions were formally scrapped, allowing clubs to open and putting an end to mandatory masks and social distancing, the prime minister expressed concern about what he called the “continuing risk posed by nightclubs”. From just after midnight on Sunday, thousands of revellers were pictured dancing at clubs across the country as they celebrated “freedom day”.


>Johnson was delivering a press conference from Chequers, where he is self-isolating after contact with the health secretary, Sajid Javid, who has tested positive for Covid.


[…]

>The latest survey from the Office for National Statistics, carried out in the month to 20 June, found that about 10% of all people aged 16-29 reported being hesitant to get the Covid vaccine, dropping to 5% for those aged 30-49 and 1% for over-50s.


Indiana University Can Require Covid-19 Vaccines, Federal Judge Says
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccination-requirement-at-indiana-university-upheld-by-federal-judge-11626724756?mod=djemalertNEWS

>A federal judge has ruled that Indiana University may require its students to submit proof of Covid-19 vaccination before returning to campus this fall, dealing a setback to a brewing legal effort against vaccination requirements in higher education.


>In a 101-page decision handed down Sunday, U.S. District Judge Damon R. Leichty said the university system acted reasonably to protect public health when it required all of its students, faculty and staff to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 by July 1, with limited medical and religious exceptions.


>In saying so, the judge denied an injunction sought by eight college and graduate students who claimed the university’s vaccine policy unconstitutionally infringes on their bodily autonomy and medical privacy.


>The case is among the first to tackle the constitutionality of Covid-19 vaccine requirements at public universities.


>Hundreds of private and public colleges and universities have adopted vaccine policies like Indiana University’s—in schools mostly clustered on the East and West coasts. Antivaccine activists have focused on public institutions, which are bound by constitutional restraints as government entities, and have brought lawsuits under the 14th Amendment and its protection of fundamental liberties.


[..]

>Judge Leichty wrote that while young adults are less likely to get seriously ill or die from infection and that the worst of the pandemic may be over, the virus still poses risks for the age group, even in smaller numbers. And he wrote that the requirement aims to protect not just the student community, but to curb transmission to more vulnerable and older faculty members and staff. Students are heading into the fall semester amid concerns about the more virulent and transmissible Delta variant, he wrote.


>His opinion pored over the data about the safety of the vaccines. He mentioned the findings of a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention safety panel that said in June that there is a “likely association” between Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna’s mRNA Covid-19 vaccines and myocarditis in some younger individuals. The panel, the judge noted, said those cases were rare and that most patients quickly felt better.


>“No one should blithely dismiss the call for further investigation, but the students’ case isn’t strong today,” Judge Leichty wrote about the safety evidence.


>The judge also said the liberty interests at stake didn’t implicate a fundamental right that would subject the university’s policy to a more stringent constitutional review. He said Indiana University needed to show its policy was “rationally related to ensuring the public health of students”—a lower standard that it met.


The judge wrote that the university wasn’t actually forcing students to undergo injections, but letting them choose between vaccination and attending on-campus. And he said the university’s policy has “broad support within its community,” noting approving statements from faculty councils and student governments. More than 42,000 students had received the vaccine as of June 25, he wrote.

>Most of the student plaintiffs have gotten exemptions from the vaccine requirements and can attend in the fall semester, so long as they wear masks indoors and get regularly tested for the virus. The plaintiffs still objected to the mask and testing requirements.
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 No.390781

>>390765
A Postal Worker Begged for Stronger COVID-19 Protections. She Ended Up Spending Six Weeks in the Hospital.
https://www.propublica.org/article/a-postal-worker-begged-for-stronger-covid-19-protections-she-ended-up-spending-six-weeks-in-the-hospital

>Last November, just as Minnesota was suffering through a punishing wave of COVID-19, managers at a St. Paul U.S. Postal Service distribution center allowed employees to hold a going-away party in the building.


>Alejandra Hernandez, a mail handler at that center, was shocked when she saw the gathering: Almost everything about it seemed to violate pandemic safety policies. More than 15 of her colleagues were together in a break room meant for six, chatting, eating and not wearing masks.


>That day, she filed her second of three complaints to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. “I hoped that someone would come and make them take this seriously,” Hernandez recalled.


>She wasn’t the only one complaining about problems at the facility — another employee had filed a complaint in July, alleging that workers weren’t being alerted of potential exposures and the building didn’t have proper ventilation. Others filed three more complaints in September alleging that the site’s sanitation practices, personal protective equipment and quarantine measures were insufficient.


>The limited response to Hernandez and her colleagues’ appeals for help provides a window into the failures of the Postal Service, one of the country’s largest employers, and OSHA, which is supposed to protect workers, in responding to the pandemic. Approximately 55,600 postal workers have tested positive for COVID-19 nationwide, and at least 197 have died.


Olympic athletes test positive in Tokyo days before Games
https://apnews.com/article/sports-2020-tokyo-olympics-tokyo-soccer-coronavirus-pandemic-1ae8177bef505404d4cc495fbc8b2c93

>Perušič, who said he has been vaccinated', is the second member of the Czech delegation to test positive in Tokyo after a team official’s case was reported Saturday.


>He is the third athlete who was staying at the village to test positive. Two South African men’s soccer players had their COVID-19 cases announced Sunday.


>Also Monday, the personal coach for U.S. gymnast Kara Eaker confirmed that the 18-year-old alternate had tested positive in an Olympic training camp in Japan. The coach, Al Fong, said the 18-year-old Eaker was vaccinated against the novel coronavirus two months ago. Eaker, the first American athlete to test positive after arriving in Japan, had been rooming with other alternates, with the competitive team rooming with fellow competitors.


Explained: Why Rising SARS-CoV-2 Reproduction Number Is Raising Concerns
https://www.indiaspend.com/explainers/covid-19-rising-sars-cov-2-reproduction-rate-data-third-wave-761033

>Jaipur: Since June 20, 2021, the Covid-19 virus' effective reproduction number or R, which is the number of people one Covid-19 patient infects on average, has moved closer to one, rising from 0.78 to 0.88, calculations by Sitabhra Sinha, a professor of computational biology and theoretical physics at the Institute of Mathematical Sciences in Chennai, show. This is dangerous as good pandemic management requires that fewer and fewer people catch the infection, as we reported in May 2020.


>An R lower than 1 means that one patient is not even infecting one more person, on average, and if the number keeps falling, there will be fewer and fewer cases going forward. If every Covid-19 patient is infecting one more person, the spread remains slow, yet many people contract the disease. If R is more than 1, the infection can spiral out of control.


>For instance, at the current R of 0.88, 10 patients would have infected about nine people. If the R were 1, they would have infected 10 more people. The R in Kerala is currently 1.1, which means that 10 patients infect 11 more people.


>Since India's R is still lower than 1, active cases will be reducing but the rate of this decline has slowed, which is "worrying", said Sinha.


India's Covid deaths 10 times higher than reported: study
https://news.yahoo.com/indias-covid-deaths-10-times-073256650.html

>India's coronavirus death toll is up to 10 times higher than the nearly 415,000 fatalities reported by authorities, likely making it the country's worst humanitarian disaster since independence, a US research group said Tuesday.


>The Center for Global Development study's estimate is the highest yet for the carnage in the South Asian nation of 1.3 billion people, which is emerging from a devastating surge partly fuelled by the Delta variant in April and May.


>The study – which analysed data from the start of the pandemic to June this year – suggested that between 3.4 million and 4.7 million people had died from the virus.


>"True deaths are likely to be in the several millions, not hundreds of thousands, making this arguably India's worst human tragedy since partition and independence," the researchers said.
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Welp
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 No.395496

>>361969
>So many people were dying that they had to dig mass graves, have you lost your mind, you can't deny this.
Literal fake news
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 No.395497


>>390781
You are a gullible sheep, people like you are the reason we've been robbed of our lives for close to two years now. People like you should be imprisoned. You lap up everything the sensationalistic media tells you, you're brainwashed. Also I'm from a third world country and the fearmongering behind covid is a thing here as well.
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/04/25/indias-covid-crisis-has-been-hijacked-the-mainstream-media-are-lying-to-you/
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 No.395499

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 No.395503

>>395497
We should be imprisoned? We're the ones responsible for losing two years of our lives? You should be imprisoned for posing a public health threat to the rest of us.
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 No.395505

>>395499
Americans
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 No.395506

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 No.395508

>>395499
Imagine actually believing this.

>>395503
Stay at your house if you are scared of covid. I'm not the one supporting lockdowns that have driven people to alcohol, drugs, depression, unemployment and people not getting medical treatment because of this virus taking the spotlight.
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 No.395511

>>395508
I'll go places, but if you're there, I'll go somewhere else. I don't want to be around you.
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 No.395520

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>>395506
>small business owner
I hope he gets declassed and becomes a communist, or I hope he gets shot. With the vaccine. A weapon will nevertheless do.
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 No.395527

>>395520
Why the fuck would he need a vaccine when he already has natural antibodies? You're just a little boot licker
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 No.395548

What's the threshold for anti-lockdownies getting banned? I'm tired of these stupid cunts sucking air.
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 No.395555

>>395548
>t. tough guy cowering in his tanky-wanky for fear of getting the cold
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 No.395655

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 No.395661

>>395548
you're welcome to ban us as soon as you can convincingly argue against our points, but it's been over a year and I haven't seen that yet tbh. it's ad hominem all the way down
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 No.395666

>>395497
>people whose worst sin is trusting the media should be imprisoned
>>395503
>people who dare to go outside despite the big bad virus should be imprisoned
you're both wrong. trusting the media at this point is legitimately retarded but the solution to that is giving people the actual facts and listening to their concerns not allowing the ruling class to divide us further like it wants
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 No.395691

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>>395661
>our points
You made none.
>Fake News!
<actually fake to show a better picture than reality
>REEEEE, FAKE!
This is not a point.
>It's a conspiracy to take away "prole" property!
<Petite-booj aren't proles, and the real proles want safer conditions and support, while they weather the pandemic.
>REEEEE, STOP OPPRESSING PROLES!
This isn't a point, either.
>Muh life, muh choice!
<You show solidarity by preventing spread to fellow proles.
>REEE, GOODBYE GRAMMA!
All you did was bitch like the dumb fucking petite-booj fuck you are. I don't care how, I don't care why petite-booj repeatedly come here to open their stupid fucking mouths, but I want all your property seized, and you to literally fucking die.
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 No.395697

>>395666
that's reasonable but sadly too optimistic
>>395691
>I wanna make the petty-booj pay but the repressive forces of the capitalist state should do it bc I'm afraid of gong outside and being in contact with people (might catch a cold)
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 No.395730

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Covid, Health Pass, Control and Enforcement
Some thoughts on the government announcements

machine-translated from:
https://lundi.am/Covid-pass-sanitaire-controle-et-repression

As Emmanuel Macron announced last Monday, the strategy to fight the 4th epidemic wave will be based on key values: threat and blackmail, control and repression. There is much to say and think about what the Health Pass will produce and the thousand invisible borders it will create around us, the division between good citizens and marginal co-responsible for the epidemic. For the government, this is a win-win situation: on the one hand, it is a way of bringing its population to heel in order to get the economic machine moving again, and on the other hand, it is a way of creating an opposition that is easily taxed with conspiracy and vitiated by the extreme right [1]. We have received this "mood bill", whose observation we share but not whose meager hopes we do not: the dynamic between "society" and the margins seems to us to be at the heart of the government's mechanism, and it is therefore this division that we believe must be exploded. Nevertheless, it represents a relevant contribution to the ongoing debate.

On Monday, the announcements were made: mandatory vaccination for health care workers, third dose for those vaccinated at the beginning of the year, vaccination campaigns for high school students, curfews in Martinique and Reunion Island, PCR tests to be paid for and, as the icing on the cake, verification of "vaccination status" for access to most public places. In the next few months, we may well find ourselves willy-nilly in the world of the future, with a health pass to back it up.

It's going to look like a first-person testimony, a bit embarrassing, but that's the nature of this kind of political operation: historical completion of the control society, of the cybernetic world and of the smart city, which assigns us to our miserable individual condition.
Here we are: no vaccination obligation, but we will have to carry our precious health pass to spend our meager savings at the supermarket, to connect to cultural flows at the cinema or in an official concert hall, to work in the medical sector, to travel by plane, TGV or bus, to maintain the machine at the sports club. "We don't force you to do anything, you can do as you like, but if you make the wrong choice, life will be much more unpleasant.

We finally reach this soft apartheid which sees the smart people accessing society by right and the losers (without a smart phone, suspected of being backward, conspiracy freaks, irresponsible reactionaries, well or fountain poisoners) sliding irremediably to the margins. Crucial political question: how to populate them?

I had the covid, a stroke of luck without much damage. I had nothing against the principle of vaccination, I don't believe that my DNA will be mixed with that of the reptilian Bill Gates at each injection. But I will refuse this forced deportation to the next world. Because the virus, as a deadly living particle, will always take less life than the great capitalist machine that we are forced to support by funding its most dynamic sectors (pharmaceutical industry, control sectors, new tracking technologies, and other small gadgets that are necessarily smarter than us). Because I don't like to run when Macron whistles at me on TV. Because I don't like to fill out certificates.

I hope that all the people thrown out of this world will give shape to rebel geographies, in all the interstices, right next to the obligatory passages; outside the shopping malls, in spaces outside the frame, etc. Little hope: what will the comrades of the friendly places with a street name do, who will have in front of them a new arsenal to impose the administrative closing of any place that disturbs, with the infamous mark of the poisoners? There is little hope: the psychic catastrophe implied by this massive locking down or securitization of existence (I have a badge at school, I have a badge at the swimming pool, I have a badge at the concert, I have a badge to take my train, I potentially have to be able to justify my identity everywhere) will generate its share of "lone wolves" as they say; all those people that the certainty of not belonging to that world will easily lead to more or less visible outbursts of rage or apocalyptic caliphates, and to the deflagration of acts of violence More human pieces are thrown away to relaunch the anti-terrorist mechanics: thus a little more intelligent cameras, a little more tracking, a little more means for the forces of order, a little more president on TV.

The world is closing in a little more. "With your Health Pass, you who enter here abandon all hope. Except perhaps that of secession, since they throw us in. So we find ourselves down in the half-world.

[1] We invite those who might still have doubts to watch the first broadcast of La Une TV last night, which brought together some forty figures of the "movement". If some of the names are unknown to you, the live tweet of the extractor will allow you to find your way around between the muses of the extreme Catholic right, former gendarmerie putschists, former reality TV stars who are hunters of the illuminati, disappointed Soralians, former yellow vests who are now convinced that the yellow vests were in fact a manipulation of the world government, etc.
That these self-proclaimed representatives are rotten apples obviously implies only themselves and not the thousands of demonstrators who marched this Saturday against the new government measures. It remains to be seen whether they will manage to recover this spontaneous movement or whether they will sink into the limbo of their respective delusions.
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 No.395777

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>>395497
>"Source" believes in the "Great Reset"
>Lolbertarian vertue signaling site
Discarded
In a great irony, it is always people like you, who are the most gullible.
You should go to the gulag.
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 No.395792

>>395777
>doesn't believe in the great reset even though the highest coordinating bodies of the ruling class constantly and openly advocate for it because that would mean admitting conspiratards actually notice real things occasionally
>>395781
>"the poor have never been anarchists"
lmao the fatass retard even looked like the /pol/ autists that idolize him today
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 No.395799

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>>395792
>the highest coordinating bodies of the ruling class constantly and openly advocate for it
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>>395802
>pet project of some chump porky with net worth of $1.1 mil, running an NGO with net worth of $120 mil.
>the highest coordinating bodies of the ruling class
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 No.395813

>>395810
https://www.weforum.org/partners
>nothing to see here folks it's just some guy's hobby trust me bro
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 No.395824

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>>395813
>constantly and openly advocate
>have to check the typical resume bloat "here's who I farted next to"-type
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 No.395834

>>395824
It's hard to tell if you are unable to see the forest for the trees or if you simply don't want to. Fortunately it's obvious that you're not worth the effort of spelling it out further.
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 No.395856

>>395813

>The society that tripped and broke it's neck about covid six second in has the capability of transforming anything!!11



Dude, we aint even gonna fix climate change till half the earth in uninhabitable. You OVERESTIMATE the ability of people. We are ran by blind idiots, olympians who fuck up constantly and have more flaws than qualities, not the God of Israel
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 No.395857

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>>395792
Brainwormed. The only thing this pandemic has done to the ruling class is accelerate the accumulation of wealth, by destroying petty booj business, proletarising them and monopolise the economy further – more of the same boring capitalist bullshit. Stick your shitty conspiracy theories up your arse and kys.
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 No.395880

>>395856
the "bourgeoisie couldn't handle covid" narrative is bullshit, they handled it exactly how they wanted to, with police state measures, big pharma / tech profiteering, and eugenics
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 No.395889

>>395880
It was a seriously retarded and short sighted response. Yeah, porky did what they wanted to, but what they want is usually very short term shit. They always end up playing themselves.
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 No.395895

>>395527
>Why the fuck would he need a vaccine when he already has natural antibodies? You're just a little boot licker
Lmfao. He didn't necessarily develop antibodies you stupid idiot. All antibodies are natural, absolute retard. Lmfao you're takes are so shit always, why/how are you so confident?
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 No.396269

>>395880
This. But the lockdown left can't admit this.
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 No.396280

>>396269
two things can be true at once, porky fucked up the lockdown because they wanted to profit from it. really, the entire debate ITT relies on Westerners blinding themselves to the rest of the world. everyone else is dealing with COVID in a much different way, either through actually experiencing catastrophe like India, or ensuring that the state has enough capability to deal with the issue like China or Vietnam.

the West, on the other hand, has done this hybrid approach where most people will never experience the negative effects of the virus but the pain falls disproportionately on invisible demographics who don't go online to say how it's all a fuckin hoax or something. it leads to people like Greaves-san to saying it's all fake and Porky made it all up because they themselves cannot see it. i don't blame Phil here for being such a covidiot, Porky fucked it all up in the first place.

the primary issue is the dominance of financial capital seeking to use any crisis to plunder the working class, but covidiots and anti-vaxxers can't admit it because it would prove that the issue is capitalism rather than government. seriously, every time i watch a Jimmy Dore video, there are tons of rightoids in the comments who think the government is the sole cause of their country's problems, the business leaders are somehow the ones being held back by Demonrat communists. these are the deluded fools you've thrown your lot in with, Phil. i sincerely wish you the best of luck and that they never find out you're a communist.
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 No.396291

>>396280
The virus is real, it just happens to be a nothing burger.
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 No.396315

>>395857
>this pandemic
Exactly. Lets see how many pandemics or global food production disrupting plagues we get in the next few decades.

Betting on many.

/tinfoil
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>>396315
>>396291
>nothing burger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GABLJbNvTIc
There is currently a massive strain on global logistical supply lines, threatening to fuck up global trade.

All conspiracy to the effect that "elites are planning this!" ignores the fact that it would be a suicide play, and a single most based thing to ever happen in history.
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 No.396583

>>272428
Dozens of millions of workers don't vote for closet fascist parties. Dozens of millions of workers don't actually vote because they undersand none of the bourgeois parties represent them.
And yes, as communists we do know better, and we do know not to fall into the stupid muck of nationalism.
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>>395857
so acceleration?
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 No.396704

>>396383
Sometimes the bourgeoisie destroys the productive forces to maintain the class structure. That's essentially the purpose of fascism, for example.
Only ways forward for working humanity are death and slavery under coronafascism or the complete liquidation of the bourgeoisie which imposed lockdowns.
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 No.396728


>haven't gotten the vaccine and ignore wearing a mask as much as possible

>travel from Seattle to LA for the weekend
>get really sick 2 days after coming back
>holy shit is it finally happening
>go to doctor
>its pneumonia

and I was even considering getting that vaccine after that.
covid is a joke
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 No.396765

>>395508
All of those things were major problems before the lockdowns.
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 No.396886

>>396383
based post
based image, i love this pic, laughed hard
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 No.396894

>>396704
Go to bed Phil you faggot.
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 No.397159

>>396894
It's funny how people think only Phil greaves would oppose lockdown.
He was right about Syria when almost everyone else was wrong, maybe more should listen to him.
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 No.397874

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>>397159
Listening to Phil Greaves only results in screenshots on why nobody should listen to Phil Greaves, and how twitter tankies, twitter leftists, and Twitter are irredeemable garbage, that noone should ever take seriously and only laugh at.
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 No.398517

>>397159
shut the fuck up retard
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 No.398576

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/07/links-7-24-2021.html

>About the French Guyana paper from the CDC


>This is how science – the actual process – not the Fauci version – should be working.


>I have repeatedly stated that I am seeing much much more vaccinated positives than one would ever have expected. As I have stated, they seem to be much sicker (though not critically so) and they tend to happen in clusters. For the past two months, this has stuck out from the dominant media narrative. I have never had to fight the cognitive dissonance between the media and my own eyeballs in my life.


>I belong to a large non-public alumni group of my residency program that has literally thousands of IM docs all over America. The first thing a scientist does is to confirm that your observations are general or something you are just seeing. It was quickly obvious from that group that I was far from alone despite the “minimal breakthrough cases” media narrative.


>So, then you do everything you can to hypothesize reasons why you are seeing what you are. I have been a physician for 30 years and that experience plays a huge role as well. Having this gigantic number of breakthrough cases just simply does not happen. I continue to see more than half the cases in vaccinated patients and so do many others. UNHEARD OF IN VACCINES BEFORE NOW.


>Part of hypothesizing why is looking to the literature for evidence. Seldom is this found in RCT at this stage. Case reports and series like this paper are critical. They are seeing the same breakthrough ratio. And they have done a lot more viral research than you can. This is a gold mine for my own questions.


>Is there anything in the paper that could possibly explain what I am seeing. Lots of times, it is not in the headline part but in all the test results and discussion. And yes, there is a very important finding deep in the results.


>Why would clustering and sicker patients be so much more common in the breakthrough patients – there must be a reason for that?


>If you look at the brief discussion of cT or cycle threshold you will see that the vaccinated patients have a SIGNIFICANTLY lower cT than the unvaccinated. That is the way the PCR test works. It basically means the vaccinated have a much higher amount of viral active particles than the unvaccinated. That would account for the breakthroughs I and my colleagues are seeing being a bit more ill. And it would explain the clustering. THe vaccinated breakthroughs have much higher viral load so they are much more contagious and the higher viral load makes them more symptomatic.


>So we now have a suggestion and strong evidence that the vaccinated population may be spreading much more virus than the unvaccinated. I would say that is a critical public health issue and must be further researched immediately.


>This Certainly needs much more work. THis is not confirmatory of any conclusions. But it is consistent with observation on the ground – unlike most of what the media has been spewing to the American people. But this is how science works. This paper is about the gamma variant but a conference yesterday with experts discussed that similar findings were being found in delta and lambda. The suggestion in this paper is now on the front of my mind. I am even now thinking of ways to confirm or falsify these conclusions going forward. This is science.


>Another issue. The writers make the point that the breakthrough rate is extremely divergent from the expected rate. The difference is this paper documents what is happening in REAL LIFE. So much of what we are hearing on our media about vaccine efficacy is research being done in vitro. It is presented as gospel truth. I just want to scream.


>I am doing great and thanks for all the kind words. More about my week later. The commenters here are the best in the internet and I so appreciate my time here.


<The article discusses cT values;


<“CT values were not different according to the immune status: median (interquartile range [IQR] of Ct (RdRp1) = 29 (25-35) for non-immune (n = 3),

21.5 (18-25) for vaccinated 1 dose (n=6) and 23 [21-27] for vaccinated 2 doses (n = 13), p = 0.15 with median test. For RdRp1: median [IQR] = 28 [25-33] for non-immune (n = 3), 20 [20-23] for vaccinated 1 dose (n = 5) and 23 (21-26) for vaccinated 2 doses (n = 13), p = 0.09 with median test. For N gene: median (IQR) = 32 (30-34) for non-immune (n = 2), 26 (25-28) for vaccinated 1 dose (n = 5), and 27 (26-31) for vaccinated 2 doses (n = 14), p = 0.30 with median test”

<The P values do not show a significant difference. One problem is n is so small it is hard to detect a difference if it exists.


<There is this Nature communication:


<Initial report of decreased SARS-CoV-2 viral load after inoculation with the BNT162b2 vaccine


https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-021-01316-7

>Yes – these are all true – however – this was a case series – never meant to be a definitive discourse on that issue. If you read what I said – this is a possible signal. Nothing is confirmed. But a very important one. And certainly goes right along with what I am seeing. And a huge swath of my colleagues.The health departments across America should be watching for this right now. But we are not even counting vaccinated positives yet.


>There are now press reports showing up about one vaccinated individual being a superspreader person among other vaccinated and unvaccinated. And this goes right to the debate of masking and mitigation. Unfortunately it is also a very important issue for the vaccination of kids in school issue. You have to assume that all the breakthrough cases are all spreading virus – and they have been told not to mask. So they are just walking around everywhere sharing the wealth. Furthermore, if there is even a chance that they may be carrying around a higher viral load – that must be investigated fully. It would in normal times completely change the operating procedure. But again – we are not even counting breakthroughs right now.


>In my local area this week, we had a report from the Health Department head about our case numbers. I was on tele because I am in quarantine. It became immediately apparent that they have two books – one with the breakthroughs and one without – Let’s just say they are only sharing one to the public – and I think you know which one. The numbers with the breakthrough cases were very similar to this paper. The media is not really running this down.
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 No.399395

>>398576
>the vaccines might actually increase the viral load, making the vaccinated super spreaders

oh, good
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 No.400290

>>398576
is this inversion happening with all vaccines ?
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 No.400350

>>397874
Aside from the one about humour being counterrevolutionary, which is obviously a joke, I see no big problem with those statements. Popular bourgeois culture really does support fascism, infantile coombrains who talk about sex all the time are not serious communists and Marxism-Leninism is a science, not an imageboard.
It's all the same people who cheered on the NATO destruction of Libya and Syria who are now backing lockdowns. And like I said, Greaves was ahead of the curve because he actually understands the world dialectically.
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 No.400397

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Russian communists organising against forced vaccinations.
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 No.400868

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 No.400905

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202107/1229526.shtml
>Petition calling for Fort Detrick lab probe comes under attack from US IP addresses as signatures reach 10 million
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 No.401150

>>400419
but the dems support vaccine passports so we must to to oppose evil drumphtler
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 No.401245

>>401150
Trump imposed lockdowns, masks etc as well.
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 No.401621

Feels good to be in a place where vaccine passports are banned. I'm never taking that porky vaccine and I'm going to buy a bunch of guns to protect myself against any fascist scum who try and inject me with it.
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 No.401654

>>401245
source?
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 No.401695

>>401621
>>401621
Lucky, but don't imagine they'll spare you forever. They indeed plan to exterminate the working class.
>>401654
Don't you remember 2020? Trump is part of the bourgeoisie, he's in on the whole thing.
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 No.401696

Using COVID Paranoia To Hold Back Economies Will End In Tears
https://boffyblog.blogspot.com/2021/07/using-covid-paranoia-to-hold-back.html
But, its also hard not to see that, whenever economies have started to grow rapidly in recent years, causing interest rates to rise, which then threatens to crash asset prices, some means has been found to hold back that economic growth, and so reduce the threat to those assets. In 2010, conservative governments everywhere implemented fiscal austerity, for example, which cratered economic growth. In 2018, as economic growth again increased, interest rates rose, and financial markets fell by 20%, Trump stepped up his global trade war, which reduced global trade, and curtailed global growth, whilst the resulting slowdown was used as an excuse for the Federal Reserve to reverse its tapering programme, and again begin to inject liquidity that pushed up bond and share prices once more.

After the initial shock of COVID in Spring 2020, the even greater amounts of liquidity thrown into circulation by central banks led to global stock and bond markets rising to even greater astronomical heights, again showing that these forms of gambling have nothing whatsoever to do with the real economy, which at the time was seeing the greatest slowdown in 300 years, and company profits disappearing across the board, and turning into losses. But, as economies began to open up over the last few months, monetary demand has surged. In part that is fuelled by all of that same liquidity that central banks have injected. As businesses were forced by competition to respond to this increased demand, by accumulating additional capital, they have found labour shortages, and supply bottlenecks that have sent their input costs soaring in a manner described by Marx in Capital III, Chapter 6, and in Theories of Surplus Value, Part II. With many of them having no profits to use to finance that accumulation, and others also having run down their balance sheets to cover costs over the last year, they have had to go to the capital markets to borrow.

In previous years, we have seen companies using profits to buy back shares. Already, this year, there has been a record number of IPO's, and of additional share offerings as firms tried to get money-capital to invest in additional capacity. The result is inevitable. Additional supply of debt instruments – bonds, shares – means that there prices fall, which means that the yields on them rise, along with interest rates. Higher interest rates means a lower capitalised value of revenue producing assets such as shares and bonds, as well as land and property. Over the last few months, bond prices began to fall, and yields rise, a clear sign that interest rates were rising in the economy, as the demand for money-capital rose relative to supply. As frequently happens, the fall in bond prices saw a rotation into shares, as speculators bet that this increase in economic activity would result in higher profits, and, thereby, higher dividends. But, that would inevitably be short lived, as increased masses of profit is not the same as increased rates of profit. Falling rates of profit mean that, although rates of interest rise, they do so, not via any significant increase in the amount of interest/dividends paid, but via a fall in the price of the assets themselves.

Such a sharp fall, let alone a crash in asset prices strikes fear into the heart of the top 0.01% which owns its wealth now exclusively in this form. It needed by hook or by crook to slow down the rapid pace of economic expansion, and so relieve the pressure on interest rates and asset prices. COVID paranoia fulfils that function. Of course, there are others who have a vested interest in promoting COVID paranoia. There are sections of the Left, who have a crude and vulgar view that anything that is bad for capitalism is somehow good for Socialism, and so who relish any economic difficulty.
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 No.401708

>>401695
>Don't you remember 2020? Trump is part of the bourgeoisie, he's in on the whole thing.
so when did
<Trump imposed lockdowns, masks
this happen?
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 No.401723

>>401708
April 2020, when the US government which he led imposed laws across the country.
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 No.401728

>>401723
can you elaborate? can you give specifics?
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 No.401773

>>401723
>>401728
guess you don't know what you're talking about
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 No.401897

>>401723
The federal government didn't impose laws across the county. The response was down to local and state governments.
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 No.401907

>>400290
Like the author of the comments says, it's impossible to know without dedicated study whether this is specific to some vaccines in particular, the vaccines in general, or if it's even happening at all. It's made even more difficult because the exact information we'd need to be able to tell, the CDC is refusing to collect, or at least to publish it.
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 No.403711

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Sinovac Covid-19 vaccine antibodies begin to fade 6 months after 2nd dose – study

https://www.rt.com/news/530287-sinovac-covid-vaccine-antibodies-fade/

The antibody protection generated in recipients of the Sinovac Biotech Covid-19 vaccine begins to fall 6 months after the second dose has been administered, according to a new study from China-based researchers.

A research paper published on Sunday found that only 16.9% of people who had received two doses of the Chinese vaccine two weeks apart, and 35.2% of those who had both jabs four weeks apart, still had antibodies above the neutralizing threshold six months after that second vaccine.

While the paper has not yet been peer-reviewed, researchers at the disease control authority in China’s Jiangsu province examined blood samples of healthy adults aged between 18 and 59 to see the lasting impact of having two doses of the Sinovac jab.

As well as exploring the effect of two doses, scientists investigated the benefits of a third booster shot, finding it had a strong positive impact on increasing the level of antibodies within recipients if given six months after the second jab. When people had that booster jab, researchers saw a three- to five-fold increase in their level of neutralizing antibodies, indicating the additional shot could help to maintain protection against the virus.
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 No.403797

>>403711
Is Sinovac effective against the newer variants?
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 No.403891

>>403711
>When people had that booster jab, researchers saw a three- to five-fold increase in their level of neutralizing antibodies, indicating the additional shot could help to maintain protection against the virus.
Choose which pharmaco you subscribe to well, the boosters will be for life, and this is just the beginning of the ride!
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 No.404330

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/06/30/pers-j30.html
Delta variant surge explodes claims that the pandemic is over in the US
>For months, the Biden administration, the media and major corporations have promoted the fiction that the COVID-19 pandemic is all but over, but the spread of the virus remains a serious and growing threat.

The resurgence of Delta variant of Covid-19 in more then 85 countries exposes the claims of all bourgeois governments in this regards. What is making matters worse is that this is happening at a time when most restrictions have been already eased while at the same time more then three quarters of population of this world have not yet been vaccinated. For this reason building a rank and file safety committees of workers on the international level becomes highly imperative under these conditions.
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 No.404376

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/09/pers-j09.html
Scientists demolish “Wuhan lab” conspiracy theory of coronavirus origins
>On Wednesday, 21 of the world’s leading experts on the origins of infectious diseases published a preprint paper demolishing the conspiracy theory promoted by the Biden administration and the US media that COVID-19 was a man-made virus.

Good news from the scientific community. The zoonotic hypothesis was always far more likely since consistent with known evidence. I wonder if the mainstream media will report or censor this important news?
Good to see the WSWS denying the status of "theory" to the Wuhan lab conspiracy theory: it was only ever a dubious hypothesis, now discarded by the WHO and world experts in virology and epidemiology as an impossibility.

Naturally, the US government will keep on ignoring the truth in order to push their war agenda. We however must fight back, knowing the truth is on our side. The truth must spread exponentially rather than their lies.
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 No.404383

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/10/pers-j10.html
As European governments demand population “live with” COVID-19 surge, workers must take up a socialist strategy
>The policy of the ruling class means the continuation of the pandemic and, with it, mass death and social devastation. The only social force able to stop this war on society is the international working class.

Leon Trotsky once wrote, “The task of the working class – in Europe and throughout the world – consists in counterposing to the thoroughly thought-out counter-revolutionary strategy of the bourgeoisie its own revolutionary strategy, likewise thought out to the end.” This is our guiding motto. As the European governments demand the masses should live with the pandemic, even under conditions where 100,000 new cases reported the day around Europe, the ICFI put forward, the worker must take up a socialist strategy. As more than one million deaths took place in the continent, there is no other way out.
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 No.404403

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/15/pers-j15.html
Over 1,200 doctors and scientists condemn UK COVID-19 policy as “dangerous and unethical”
>Dr Helen Salisbury, a lecturer at Oxford University and columnist for the BMJ, described the government’s pursuit of herd immunity by infection, rather than vaccination, as “criminal.”

The leading scientists are correct to reveal that the UK government's policy responses in regards to Covid-19 would only further exacerbate the infections and the spread of new contagious variants. So the claim coming from bourgeois governments that we should live with the virus is outright criminal.
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 No.404415

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/19/pers-j19.html
Urgent action is necessary to stop the US Delta variant surge!
>The United States is in the midst of a major new upsurge of the COVID-19 pandemic that threatens a “wave of infection” throughout the country.

They are easing all restrictions today at a time when Delta variant is spreading at greater pace. When profit interests is all that matters in this existing social order then humanity has no choice but to seek a higher order which is Socialism in this case.
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 No.404421

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/21/pers-j21.html
A crime against humanity: COVID-19 has killed an estimated four million people in India
>India’s massive death toll is a colossal crime, in which the entire imperialist world order is implicated no less than the Indian ruling class.

This is a comprehensive article on COVID in India paying due attention to the socio-economic system of the country that did not care at all to the social murder. Instead the pandemic was abused by the ruling oligarchy to enrich the country's bourgeoisie. This heinous crime was the same in rest of the capitalist world apart from China which managed the pandemic through a comprehensive program to save many millions of lives. What is being proved by the day is that capitalism/imperialism has to be wiped out from the face of our planet. International Working class must build the IWA-RAF to topple this anti-human system and establish international federation of socialist states to salvage the humanity. Victory to the ICFI/SEP/IYSSE. Death to Indian and global capitalism.
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 No.404426

>>404421
If COVID was a crime against humanity, who made it first? Is it China or the US?
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 No.404435

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/23/pers-j23.html
Global school reopenings pose massive threat to children
>Well aware of the dangers posed to unvaccinated children by the global surge of the Delta variant of the coronavirus, governments worldwide are nevertheless deepening their drive to fully open schools for the fall semester.

In Europe and in France it's school holidays till the end of August. The French Covid figures are, like their unemployment figures, ludicrously low given the very limited and sporadic measures to prevent the spread of Covid 19. The partial vaccination of the adult population appears to have limited the number of deaths, but schools were open for most of the school year with only a March to June lockdown in 2020. Testing, which was never very comprehensive, is being reduced. There are significant numbers of people who are afraid of being vaccinated due to the negative press in the MSM and due to competing manufacturers, none of whom are French companies.

There is a huge lack of skilled jobs, many are looking for work. Many big companies are advertising jobs in a pro-forma manner that are already filled by internal candidates, pending forced redundancies. Given the parlous state of the real economy (apart from the stock market), there will be a major push by the Macron government to keep schools open from September just like in the US and Brasil. The predictable results of failing to stop the spread of Covid, now in its 4th wave in France, will favour the neo-fascist Marine Le Pen in the national elections.

The unions in France, after initially feigning sympathy and starting some small actions, now abandoned, have been complicit since March 2020 in covering up the seriousness of the pandemic and in isolating teachers and preventing strikes. They pretend to be concerned about kids' mental health but never mention the risks of actual illness and death of children, siblings, parents and teachers. They are really only concerned about their social status, share portfolios and the national economy.

Personally I am worried about the long term health impacts of Covid on children, especially since there is no access to vaccines for under 12 year olds. The "choice" between jobs and health, is false and must be rejected by workers. We must form our own committees to fight for a scientific and socialist response to the pandemic.

The WSWS is the most reliable source of information on Covid for working people. Thank you to WSWS for their accurate and timely reporting.
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 No.404438

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/24/pers-j24.html
The Olympics open in the shadow of mass death
>The ongoing spread of the COVID-19 Delta variant threatens to transform this year’s summer Olympics, which opened July 23, from an international sporting event into a global superspreader event.

Despite more than 80% of the Japanese population being opposed on health grounds, their government and the International Olympic Committee organizers go ahead with a super spreader event during the 4th and most dangerous wave of Covid to date. This is true anti-democracy in action: profits before lives. No one can fail to understand what is driving this year's Olympic games, and it has nothing to do with "moving forward."
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 No.404441

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/26/pers-j26.html
COVID-19 surge explodes Biden’s claim of “independence” from pandemic
>Biden’s lying declarations of victory over COVID-19 were aimed at justifying the abandonment of restrictions on the spread of the disease.

As Trump declared that there is nothing call COVID-19 During the initial stage of the pandemic, Biden declared the pandemic is over. History has given the verdict on both. Both presidents and the system they represent are so decayed, one doesn't have to wait months, only weeks, to prove that they are wrong. But the problem is the masses had to pay with their lives. With little paraphrasing on what Biden said, we can say, 'Take your mask off. You can pay with your life.' But sadly, that is the reality. When Fauci said, that America is “going in the wrong direction”, he was just thinking about the pandemic, but the words really sum up the situation in America and the whole world under capitalism. Yes, the system is going in the wrong direction, not just from the last year, or in the last decade, but nearly more than a century. British imperialism, which spearheaded colonialism in the 19th century, now spearheading the “pre-pandemic life in the face of fast transmitting versions of the virus.” It seems the new estimations of four million deaths in India are a glimpse of what we are going to get. This is what is going to happen in the future with capitalism if it is allowed to survive.
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 No.404449

>>404426
The crime against humanity is the social murder committed by allowing covid to run amok.
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 No.404451

>>404435
>The WSWS is the most reliable source of information on Covid for working people. Thank you to WSWS for their accurate and timely reporting.
Are you clearing your backlog of WSWS articles or something? I mean, I appreciate not creating new threads over it, but, uhh..?
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 No.405102

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/27/pers-j27.html
Rand Paul, Anthony Fauci and the witch-hunt against science
>Last Tuesday, Senator Rand Paul publicly accused Anthony Fauci of having helped to genetically engineer the virus that caused the COVID-19 pandemic.

It seems like we are back in the medieval period. Yes, it is. That is where the ruling elite is heading to. This is a thought-provoking article, which sums up the present situation in America and also in the world. The bourgeois has become so reactionary, so degenerated, now its sections are leading the witch-hunt against science. And this is in America, the country which lead the scientific innovations in the period of rice, and which was based on the technological innovations during the last century. But it is so rotten today, they know that there is no other way out than witch-hunting against own against its own scientists. Anthony Fauci, director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who is working to defend the lives of the millions of the masses, is now accused of responsibility for the mass deaths. It is like, the clock is ‘ticking’ the other way. The accusation is this time done by, Rand Paul, the COVID-19 vaccine denier and proponent of mass infection, and also former president Donald Trump.

The reaction of the Democratic Party shows, that there is no principal difference between the right-wing fascistic forces and them. Whatever their “support” for Fauci is cynical. As the article says, there is no denouncing of the vaccine denier by any of them. It may be, the Democratic Party “colleagues” are congratulating the proponent of mass infection, behind the scene. No one in the ruling elite seems it is necessary, even to distance, let alone denounce the right-wing campaign of the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal. As the bogus campaign against Iraq’s “mass destruction weapons” lead, the way for the invasion of the country, this bogus “Wuhan lab” theory is paving the way for nuclear confrontation with China, which will be destructive to the whole human culture. The bullying and the intimidation of the scientists Should be opposed vigorously. The defending of science goes hand in hand with overthrowing the capitalist system.
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 No.405484

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/07/200pm-water-cooler-7-27-2021.html


<IM Doc

<July 27, 2021 at 3:31 pm

>About the Joan Walsh/Salon sequence above in the links – about Kay Ivey not being gung-ho about the vaccine.


>As usual, these media types never surprise me any more – what a liar!


>I am getting very tired of the whole blame the unvaccinated trope. Maybe it is me being a physician for 30 years – having been part of numerous epidemics of the flu which were pretty bad in their own right – and having absolutely no one say a word about anyone’s vaccine status. My job is to take care of people where they are – it is not to judge them when they are ill. The media is doing the devil’s work for sure. Psst – guys – it is not working. I am on the front lines – believe me – you are making things much much worse. It is almost like you want a civil war.


>An update for today – I have had a new superspreader event that I am dealing with all morning. So far no one in the hospital – but we are getting close on two different patients. This particular time was a planned event. There were 20 invitees – and part of the condition of coming to the event was all had to be vaccinated. So far we have 12 positives for sure – and 3 more who are sick and likely positive. All fully vaccinated. Again – no one in the hospital. The sick include many 20somethings breakthroughs. Interestingly, many of these people were just vaccinated in the past month in response to being invited to this event. So at least in their bodies, the vaccine has not “had time to wear off” – but positive they are. We even have managed to infect two of the hired staff – both vaccinated. And that was it. There were no others involved. No unvaccinated deplorable to blame. Gee whiz – this virus just does not take the time to read the Salon.com narratives. Multiple others in contact with them are now being tested. I have not had time to deal with the health department yet, but almost assuredly, none of these people will be counted – they are not hospitalized nor are they health care workers.


>We still have just the 1 patient in the hospital who is doing better – and there are no new ones in the ER right now. Still pretty quiet.


>In my old urban core hospital before I moved to this area, the unvaccinated are about 75% of the admissions. The other vaccinated 25% are mostly diabetic, obese or immunocompromised – mostly elderly. Basically, the same crowd that fell victim last year.

This is the same city whose reddit and twitter feeds are playing one video after another for the past month of multiple gigantic night clubs of all ethnic backgrounds with thousands of people bumping and grinding with no mask in sight. And yet Joan Walsh has the gall to just blame “the unvaccinated” for this situation. There really is no shame – nor is there any medical truths in these proclamations. There are consequences when you put all your eggs in just one basket when dealing with any epidemic. We have NEVER – NOT ONE TIME – deployed this public health strategy in my lifetime.

>I am pretty much telling all my patients right now on every visit – It is clear that these vaccines offer you no immunity from getting COVID. It is literally a flip of the coin. They do seem to at this point make the symptoms less. That is all I am willing to tell them – because I am now reporting truths that I am seeing with my own eyes. Long ago I realized that telling even white lies to patients is never a good strategy. So I do not.


>For those who are at special risk – the elderly, the obese, diabetics, or immunocompromised – all visits are on tele – and I am encouraging them strongly not to leave the house.


>I still strongly feel that high risk patients should be vaccinated – and I go through this multiple times daily.


>For everyone else – out in the sun as much as possible, exercise, lose weight, vitamin D, decrease stress, sleep well, and hug your kids and your spouse as much as you can. Do not , like Joan Walsh and many others like her, be the source of contention and strife.


>Sorry about the rant – it gets harder and harder to stomach the lies.


>Take care and God Bless.


>In my last paragraph – Should have added – For everyone else – vaccination is certainly OK – I am never going to discourage it. But if you do not – get out in the sun, exercise, etc etc.


>This is a decision we are all going to have to make. And I am afraid for all the Joan Walsh types out there that celebrating deaths of unvaccinated patients like I have see in the media repeatedly this past few weeks is unbecoming of a moral person. It is literally ghoulish. And is making things much much worse for those of us trying to do the right things on the front line.
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 No.405767

>>405102
Senator Rand Paul is a doctor who is driven by political ideology. He is an ophthalmologist by training, yet he cannot see with his own eyes, the reality right in front of him. Now we can understand where Dr. Joseph Mengele came from, the Nazi doctor who experimented on prisoners in the concentration camps. Many doctors collaborated with the Nazis. These horrors could recur, right here in the U.S. The entire program of "herd immunity" is a deadly experiment on human beings. On the mainstream news programs, I notice a parade of scientific “experts,” Dr. Rachel Walensky of the C.D.C. and others capitulating to political pressure, justifying the reopening of schools, falsely claiming we can reopen safely. Lies and more lies.
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 No.405775

>>405767
what is wrong with Rand Paul? you're basically just whining
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 No.405789

>>404435
Poor girl.
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 No.405813

>>405775
Rand Paul is a COVID-19 vaccine denier and proponent of mass infection.

Rand Paul reveals a seamless transition from the right-wing anarchism of the Libertarian ideology to outright fascism. The accusations against scrupulous scientists is particularly ominous. As we have said on multiple occasions, bourgeois democracy is on its deathbed. Actually, its funeral arrangements and burial are imminent. A suitable punishment for Paul and his coterie of right-wing mystics and ignoramuses would be to re-institute the pillory and stock for public ridicule, and some rotten tomatoes.
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 No.405818

>>405775
>what is wrong with Rand Paul?
are you serious
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 No.405846

>>405813
<Rand Paul reveals a seamless transition from the right-wing anarchism of the Libertarian ideology to outright fascism
how can you be a marxist and believe this liberal hysteria
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 No.406885

>CDC reverses course: Fully vaccinated Americans are now asked to wear masks indoors in places with "substantial or high" transmission (including schools) again.
>CDC Director says "new data" shows "breakthrough cases" of vaccinated individuals can have as much virus to shed and spread as an unvaccinated person.
Imagine actually haven gotten the vaccine and being made to wear the muzzle anyway. What fucking cucks
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 No.407408

>>407391
Buy my album
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 No.408332

>Over 25% of new COVID-19 cases in Los Angeles County are fully vaccinated people
ohnonono
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 No.408447

>>407391
>>408332
>>406885
Anti-Vaxxer logic: Seat belts & car brakes don't 100 percent prevent car accidents, therefore they don't work

Condoms don't 100 percent prevent pregnancy & STDs, therefore they don't work

Bullet-proof vests don't 100 percent prevent bullet penetration, therefore they don't work
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 No.408508

>>408447
>wearing condoms
Revolutionaries know condoms are alienation
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 No.408589

>>408447
Ask yourself:

If brakes work, why do we have seatbelts?

If seatbelts work, why do we have brakes?

If brakes and seatbelts work, why does the government force you to have an explosive "air" bag controlled by a microchip inches away from your face?

Do the research. Cars are a hoax
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 No.408727

Just had my second shot and GOD it hurts way more than the first one.
I feel completely hammered by this shit.
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 No.408729

>>408727
Stop feeding the geese so much boobaposter, let the arm rest
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 No.408989

>>408332
Based Coronachan will soon defeat the vaccines
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 No.409020

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>>408447
Cope and seeth.
Enjoy taking your course of Anti retro-viral HIV treatment to cure the coof.
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 No.409265

>>408447
lmao still not getting vaxxed deal with it liberal
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 No.409311

>>408447
An ounce of prevention still beats a pound of cure.
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 No.409499

The anti-vaccine movement has been internally debating exactly *what* the vaccine will do to kill everyone, but it looks to me they have finally settled on prion diseases causing the zombie apocalypse. Early on it was blood clotting and heart attacks, then it became antibody dependent enhancement and now they have chosen prions because the window for the previously predicted mass dieoffs have closed.
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 No.409505

>>409499
This theory is being spread by a bot on 4/pol/ that uses the Canadian flag.
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 No.409508

>>404441
Good thing I didn't work in the US for 'higher wages' lmao fuck the American Dream
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 No.409905

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>for those that don't want it…for all i care you can die anytime
Kek antivaxxers btfo
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 No.409910

>>409905
pure sigma male energy.
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 No.409915

>>409905
>praising Duerte
Retard
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 No.409946

>>408508
A condom appears, at first sight, a very trivial thing, and easily understood. Its analysis shows that it is, in reality, a very queer thing, abounding in metaphysical subtleties and theological niceties. So far as it is a value in use, there is nothing mysterious about it, whether we consider it from the point of view that by its properties it is capable of satisfying human wants, or from the point that those properties are the product of human labour.
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 No.410770

>>409905
When he's right, he's right.
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 No.410872

>>271931
a friend of mine was hospitalized and hasn't properly recovered ever since. the parents of one of his friends both died in the same month because of it. kys retard
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 No.410874

>>292299
better to get that 1% chance of permanent pulmonary hypertension from the virus than the 0.1% chance of subclinical myocarditis from the vaccine
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 No.411547

Bongistani advisory board apparently made some pretty radical proposals
>actual eradication of SARS-CoV-2 impossible at this stage
>vaccine failure almost a complete certainty at current mutation rates and paths of mutation
>given the large reservoir, dangerous and more lethal mutations are becoming more likely
>proposed the elimination of zootonic reservoirs, including minks, dogs, and cats on a wide scale.
Also noted that the plastic screens people have put up have no impact on reducing viral spread
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 No.411573

>>411571
kill yourself
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 No.411660

>>411571
Sinovac=Based
Pfizer,moderna, jj, az=Cringe
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 No.411677

>>411571
>you obey like a bunch of libs
This board is unironically 95% PMC libs larping as socialists. I know this is true because whenever I point it out I usually get a flurry of assblasted replies rationalizing it.
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 No.411717

The doctor spreading the "vaccines cause prion disease" thing is a convicted fraud btw
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/omaha/press-releases/2009/om082009.htm
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 No.411723

If vaccines were actually good for you, the same people who steal mine and your labour power wouldn't promote them. The same people who've destroyed countless countries in the last twenty years alone wouldn't promote them. The same parasites who've robbed the world for 400 years wouldn't promote them.
You can't get a penny from these people, they're our class enemy.
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 No.411732

If seatbelts were actually good for you, the same people who steal mine and your labour power wouldn't promote them. The same people who've destroyed countless countries in the last twenty years alone wouldn't promote them. The same parasites who've robbed the world for 400 years wouldn't promote them.
You can't get a penny from these people, they're our class enemy.
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 No.411869

>>411717
Another big part of this is this website
https://prions.rip/
It's built by Adam Gaertner, a Qanon adjacent guy who has been spending the entire pandemic selling fake cures for Covid. He's currently shilling some random drugs as a cure for prions.
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 No.411877

>>411869
Another major figure involved is Kevin McCairn, who is an Australian nazi employed by a shady university in South Korea.
https://www.mccairndojo.com/memes
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 No.411895

>>213976
The mode of action in the mRNA is as stated
>1/instruct the immune system to NOT respond/stand down in the presence of covid viruses
>2/produce spike proteins whether you have covid or not
The rationale is as follows
>1/dramatic immune responses cause symptoms which can do damage to the patient and assist spread of virus
>2/the spike proteins can neutralise the covid virus instead
This fails to account for the following
<1/patient now has an immune system that will FOREVERMORE cease to respond to covid viruses incl the flu or future sarss viruses
<2/the spike proteins can cause serious side effects eg clots,fertility issues,heart problems
<3/ when the covid19 virus mutates - the spike proteins may no longer "fit" ie will be useless ie CONSTANT boosters will be needed perhaps biannually with updated spike protein mRNA commands
<4/ "vaxed" people can still catch covid19 and spread it but because they are less likely to show symptoms,they are much more likely to spread it and will have a higher viral load without being aware of it.This could actually assist the virus in producing deadlier strains rather than vice versa as normally happens with viruses.
Whoever thought this was a good idea should be taken out and publicly shot.
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 No.411905

>>411895
Interesting. Certainly explains some stuff thats been reported.
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 No.411913

>>411905
They know all this and yet still push this insane novel mRNA "therapy".It's not a vaccine.
Lifetime patients for big pharma who will need ongoing "booster" shots atleast annually for life.
Each booster will increase likelihood of debilitating or fatal side effects - ie more potential profits for pharma
Big pharma know all this.They are evil. No other word for it.
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 No.412002

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 No.412004

>>411895
Wtf where are you getting this from. The mrna vaccine doesnt instruct the immune system to stand down, it just has it make the spike protein, transports it to the outer cell and the immune system does the rest by producing antibodies. Next when people get covid the antibodies ARE the immune response
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 No.412055

>>411660
Russian, too.
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 No.412066

>>412037
literally kill yourself you lying stupid faggot
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 No.412070

>>412066
>Has no refutation so spaz out

Lol
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 No.412073

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 No.412074

>>277933
how is that profitable lol
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 No.412077

>>412074
Phil Greaves Lenincap has been schizo-posting in this thread for so long, there are occasional posters satirizing him.
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 No.412091

I remember early last year when people were panicking about covid being airborne AIDS with a 100% fatality rate, then they changed their mind and focused more on anti-lockdown. I think the vaccine hysteria is the same, it's the same people doing the same thing. I think the feds will eventually wrangle them into panicking about how the disgusting third worlders are filthy and keep creating variants.
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 No.412112

>>412091
No.The feds will be too busy dealing with the vaxxed mobs once they realize they have permanently compromised immune systems and will need "booster shots" annually for life.
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 No.412117

>>412091
>>412112
The "vaxxed" are now totally dependent on the govt and big pharma for the rest of their lives - for their "booster shots". Neo-serfdom.
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 No.412126

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>>412091
Lowering trust in government/authority + worsening economic conditions + increasingly unstable geopolitical situation = you're watching the pacifying spell of peaceful legality on the public disintegrating in real time.

You're just giving undue attention to actual schizos/misc. loudmouth groups being load/schizo at different times.

The initial panic actually came from lolbert preppers (who took the threat of COVID the most serious of all right-wingers), who were worried that it might transmittable by mosquitos, if they wanted to fuck off innawoods. (it isn't)

Then came petite-booj "muh Great Reset" Walking Braindead, who screamed about lockdowns being literally communism.

And now we have conspiracy "Plandemic" schizos thinking all of this was a plot to render them infertile. (who the fuck would want to fertilize with them?)

This last group keeps getting mixed up much more with the reasonable people, who are merely hesitant, because side-effects, and the vaccines were way too rushed, and pushed way too hard, and it's better to just stay safe and inside.
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 No.412142

>>412134
Actual draconian responses would work, that high survival rate assumes timely intervention by a functioning healthcare system, and does not include issues caused by the long lasting damage that COVID did to a person. Good bye.
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 No.412162

>>412117
That's a horrible plan. Everybody with the power to regulate them would hate them.
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 No.412213

>>412169
The pharma companies would not have a monopoly over the world's immune systems for very long. Other countries have the ability to make these boosters but are not doing so because they want to remain friendly with Burgerlandia, which would have burned its goodwill by allowing this to happen. New generations would no longer be exposed to this tech at all and the world as a whole would have a permanent hard skepticism towards anything did because of this brazen attack on them. Big pharma would, at best, get a monopoly over a few generations of predominately older Anglos, many of whom work in industries that have power that can fuck with them. This plan only makes sense if they have a short term (for big pharma) desperation for cash that outweighs any long term planning, and that they have an incredible amount of co-conspirators in the Atlanticist world that think this is worth sacrificing their clout for.
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 No.412214

>>412072
>How do you think "vaxxed" people can get covid but have far fewer symptoms you dunce?
Because they can fight the virus more effectively?
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 No.412218

>>412213
That's not to say it's impossible for some devastating problem to happen, but that it would be disastrous for pharma and the geopolitical interests of the American empire.
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 No.412223

>>412220
But not all immune responses are symptoms. A vaxxed body would not need to rely on such desperate measures to fight the virus.
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 No.412231

>>412230
If you are gonna spaz out like that maybe you are the one that need to read a book about immunology then
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 No.412250

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>>412233
>it is epidemiology 101 to insist that all symptoms ARE immune responses
Sure it is.
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 No.412265

>>412072
Bro are you retarded? Symptoms are not the first line of defense when you get infected lmao. It takes time for the body to mount an immune response, you usually get symptoms in the middle stage of contracting a virus. Then the body produces antibodies and the symptoms of the virus die down. The inflammation and fever are the body mounting a response, the first cold and sniffles are the virus causing symptoms
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 No.412268

>>412262
Source for any of your bs claims? Where is 2/3 of the vaccinated polulation dying from covid
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 No.412269

>>412255
>Most symptoms ARE immune responses.
There is the massive climbdown lol.

>EVEN IF those antibodies no longer work on new variants.

Then the body would just deal with the new variants?
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 No.412276

>>412043

What the hell, it’s not instructing your body to stand down dork its having them make antibodies. The reason you dont get inflammation fever etc, is not because the body is “standing down,” its because the b cells have memory and when it sees the virus it surrounds the spike protein with the antibodies. Thats how immunity works, your body only does the inflammation and fever symptoms as a first line of defense while its trying to manufacture antibodies.

Because vaxxers already have the antibodies it doesnt need to do that. I’m open to antivax arguments but not retarded ones with no understanding of basic biology
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 No.412280

>>412271
>muh im an immunology expert trust me bro

Not an argument retard, you’re the one who thinks the body is standing down. Source for your idiocy?
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 No.412282

>>412262
>2/3 of serious cases involve vaxtards now.
Because most serious cases are among elderly and sickly people, who have the highest vaccination rates.
The statistics saying Delta spreads like wildfire among the vaccinated are built off of studies from a town that is near 100% vaccinated and is essentially a big gay sex resort. An intentionally misleading piece of information is being spread on purpose.
https://news.yahoo.com/eight-hundred-cases-seven-hospitalizations-and-no-deaths-the-provincetown-outbreak-shows-vaccines-work-125324207.html
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 No.412291

>>412285
Read this article, the big delta outbreak among vaccinated people killed nobody and only hospitalized seven people, who were probably overweight/old gay men in the bear community (there was a bear festival on July 10).
https://news.yahoo.com/eight-hundred-cases-seven-hospitalizations-and-no-deaths-the-provincetown-outbreak-shows-vaccines-work-125324207.html
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 No.412294

>>411723
>If vaccines were actually good for you, the same people who steal mine and your labour power wouldn't promote them
You need scientific refutation first. It is not only one power group promoting them, and it is not easily debunked.
I hope you die convulsing in your own COVID mucus, while a bunch of doctors pisses on you.
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 No.412297

>>412277
> It can't you dozy fuck because non specific antibodies are now blocked by the PERMANENT antibodies continually created by the spike protein via mRNA command

You’re an antiscience retard. Thats not how mrna and antibodies work. They are not continually created you dipshit. Mrna is broken down extremely fast by the body too, like within 15 minutes you blubbering buffoon.
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 No.412308

>>412304
The message is not continually produced you dipshit, you dont know how mrna works. It makes the body produce spike proteins in some of its own cells within cytoplasm. The protein is then transported to the outside of the cell and when the body detects these anomalous cells it creates antibodies to get rid of them. Its dose dependent, antibodies dont continuously circulate your body moron. They are only made when b cells instruct the production in the presence of antigens
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 No.412311

So, no one will post any paper or book page to read about these claim?
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 No.412319

>>412300
Viral load is dependent on many factors moron. If you mouth kiss your faggy bf with covid you’d get a higher viral load than wearing a mask.
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 No.412328

>>412317
No it’s not its not permanent, where the fuck are you getting that from? Mrna messages are never permanent they make the body produce a protein once depending on the dose. Thats why boosters are needed. Where are you getting this permanent instruction from, show me a source
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 No.412345

>>412337
That's not how the immune system works. There's no continuous production of spike protein the immune system gains a memory of the spike protein for future defense like with real pathogens. When we get the flu our bodies don't produce flu virus for the purpose of ongoing practice against a larger flu assault. Same concept.
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 No.412346

>>412337
Bro that sounds like schizo theory. The mrna protein is reverse engineered from the covid virus and is just the part that makes the spike protein. Mrna instructions only make proteins, they cant instruct the body to do things long term. Wheres your source for that?
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 No.412352

>>412349
thankfully, we're immune because we are Judeo-Bolsheviks
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 No.412357

>>412353
If the virus is mutated enough then it will produce different antibodies to the virus. But so far all the studies are showing 60-70% vax effectiveness to the new variant
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 No.412358

>>412349
Since when did you care about Indians?
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 No.412366

>>412359
It doesnt suppress the immune system, since it’s just the spike protein of the virus its mostly inert therefore the body doesn’t mount a stronger response. The covid virus is more invasive than just spike proteins, it injects dna and rna probably
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 No.412376

>>412369
No it doesnt, i asked you for sources if you have any
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 No.412384

>>412379
No its not you moron, ive never seen anywhere that specifically says it suppresses the normal immune response. It uses the immune response to make antibodies
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 No.412448

I went to look more shit about the vaccine up and now there’s claims it can make women sterile? Why does it seem the world is weary of trusting these mrna vaccines

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9856420671
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 No.412461

>>412393
> Although the current vaccine candidates have demonstrated the ability the reduce symptoms and the number of viruses in the lower respiratory tract, there is as of yet no evidence of sterilizing immunity in the upper respiratory tract.5

>For sterilizing immunity to be achieved, a vaccine needs to trigger a specific immunologic response, typically in the form of neutralizing antibodies (NAb). These are defensive proteins synthesized by the immune system that specifically target and neutralize a disease-causing organism like a virus.


It still reduces the viral load but youre right about the sterilizing thing.
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 No.412477

>>412375
If the strains get more deadlier like your source said the only ones who’ll survive are vaccinated individuals since that will become the baseline anyways
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 No.412514

A report issued on Friday by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) looked at a series of hypothetical scenarios related to Covid-19 variants, finding it a “realistic possibility” that a mutation could appear with a case fatality rate comparable to SARS (10%) or MERS (35%), both of which belong to the coronavirus family.
https://www.rt.com/uk/530756-covid-mutations-death-rate/
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 No.412535

>>412503
Ok so if they came out with a vaccine that replicates the bodys natural immune response and neutralizes it, would you take it then?
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 No.412555

>>412550
So I dont get how this leaky vaccine shit works now. Is it just masking symptoms and the infection remains? How come vaccinated people aren’t getting the same lung damage and effects as unvaccinated people then? Technically if the virus is still there hiding and working in the background it should do the same damage, just with less directly perceptibe symptoms.
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 No.412578

>>412567
>One study from Israel, which leads the world in coronavirus vaccinations, gives some clues about what’s behind this reduced transmission. Researchers identified nearly 5,000 cases of breakthrough infection in previously vaccinated people, and determined how much virus was present in their nose swabs. Compared to unvaccinated people, the amount of virus detected was significantly lower in those who got vaccinated.

>More virus in the nose has been linked to greater infectiousness and increased risks of onward transmission.


I found this study, they are all saying viral load is still reduced in vaccinated individuals and the likelihood of transmission is also reduced. It makes sense though since a coofer would be more contagious than an asymptomatic person. If the vaccine reduces viral load then it should be working, regardless of if you have a minor background infection or not still
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 No.412601

>>412582
If they stop working it should be the same as unvaccinated because the immune system will mount the full neutralizing response for the new strain instead
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 No.412630

>>412620
Shut the fuck up Phil you schizo.
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 No.412642

>>412606
>which is why the vaxxed will be MORE at risk from new variants than the unvaxxed while being LESS able to fight it off thanks to decreased numbers and potency of non specific antibodies thanks to the immune system constantly pumping out these SPECIFIC NOW OUTDATED ones
~ 95% (in some regions even more, 97 or even approaching 99%) of people currently hospitalized with Covid are un-vaccinated. The data is clear and directly contradicts your narrative. You typing in ALL CAPS doesn't change this fact. Seethe more about it.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/07/more-than-99-of-people-hospitalized-with-covid-in-nj-have-been-unvaccinated-murphy-says.html
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 No.412658

>>412650
shut the fuck up schizoid
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 No.412678

‘Craving a vegan sausage roll now!’: Anti-vaxxers go plant-based as law firm says it could be illegal to force Covid jab on vegans

On Thursday, law firm Lewis Silkin told The Telegraph that it was likely ethical vegans would be protected by employment law if employers were to implement rules mandating vaccinations for their staff.

The firm said that “some ethical vegans may disagree with vaccinations on the basis that they inevitably have been tested on animals,” adding that ethical veganism has been found to amount to a belief by employment tribunal.
https://www.rt.com/uk/530667-britain-covid19-vegan-vaccine/
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 No.412679

>>412667
the use of my cock increased an incredible 600% in your mother. mrs. greaves knows what she likes, what can i say.
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 No.412683

>>412650
>bourgeois doctors
lol
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 No.412694

>>412690
You’re funny in the same sense a gorilla throwing shit at the zoo is funny.
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 No.412696

>>412692
>Over my dead body.
promises promises
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 No.412702

>>412690
>It's the 'Doctors purge didn't happen it should of' retard again.
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 No.412703

>>412690
>Cuba, China, Vietnam and the DPRK should kill all of their doctors.
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 No.412706

>>412697
I hope you will report live for the thread when the U.N.-Gates Foundation-MI5-Globohomo Forces knock on your door.
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 No.412715

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>>412714
>if Cuba does too, that's when you'll know for sure it's abandoned socialism
You dropped this.
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 No.412723

>>412718
>I'm perfectly mentally sane
famous last words
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 No.412728

>>412718
FOR FUCKS SAKE.

The conflict in regards to lockdowns is between the corporate and the petite bourgeoisie with proles and lumpen being mobilised by either side (Anti-Lockdown protests on the side of the petite and this entire 'covid-shaming' culture that has been created by the corporate)

Corporate porkies want the world shutdown giving them an excuse to pay people even more shit, make them work harder and most importantly drive the petite out of business allowing for further consolidation

The petite reason for wanting 'reopening' (a.k.a 'wagies get back in your cagies') is simply because their literally being driven out of the competition.
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 No.412730

I guess Phil was arrested by the UN-Gates Foundation forces
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 No.412894

>>412890
Xposted to PW
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 No.412898

>>412890
Fucking retard burgershits may have doomed us all you shutdown pandemic then you mass vaccinate

Vaccinating like they've done is textbook how to evolve vaccine overcoming strains
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 No.412935

>>412898
Well when you have people that are like oh its just the flu. They assume oh let me take this vaccine and I will be good to go, well then you also have the antivaxxers which creates the perfect storm for a super bug. If anything this is just like the whole issue with the Spanish Flu where the second waves came and were more deadly than the first. So all I can say is be careful burger comrades even if you got the shot. You are still a living incubator.
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 No.412982

>>277901
most top sports players become rentiers or investors, though. something that takes such a toll on your body isn't a lifelong career. by 35 most of them are full-fledged capitalists.
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 No.413014

>>412898
well yeah if it doesn't evolve then they can't sell you booster shots every year

the solution is now, as it has been for a while, to nuke burgerstan into oblivion so the rest of the world can progress
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 No.413128

>>412642
>I don't understand the difference between statements about the present and scientfic predictions about the near future
>New Jersey is the whole world
You're a fucking moron with room temperature iq
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 No.413135

>>412935
>well then you also have the antivaxxers which creates the perfect storm for a super bug
Read the thread.The vaxxed are vectors for more deadly strains - not the unvaxxed.
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 No.413158

Just got the Cuckstra Zeneca
Vaxxxpill me on that one.
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 No.413168

>>413158
You should start transforming into a catboy twink any second now
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 No.413169

So did that fucking retard leninhat finally get banned?
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 No.413181

>>413169
Guess so.
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 No.413207

I wish I could have gotten Soberana-2 or Abdala, I had to take a bourgeois vaccine.
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 No.413235

>>413181
fucking finally
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 No.413442

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Mexico's President AMLO warns, "we must not submit to the dictates of Big Pharma:"
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 No.413454

>>413442
BASADO
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 No.413597

>>413442
Extremely based.
When will they try assassinating him now?
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 No.413600

>>413442
Is it just me or is AMLO getting more and more based in the latest months?
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 No.413649

>>413442
AMLO is decently based, but this is a stupid method to put it. The first few parts are correct that pharmaceutical companies do have the motive to gain profit, so the government should be cautious to not get scammed. The last part, about the "vaccinations for children" and so is quite irresponsible to say, because that just lends itself to antivax BS later down the line, and also gives the A*glo glowie press excuses to call for coups.
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 No.413757

>>413235
He'll be back. They always come back.

Anyway, has China made its vaccine publicly available?
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>>413442
Didn't AMLO send a boatload of oil to Cuba this past week? Watch him BTFO Bugerstan and work out a deal for Cuban vax manufacturing and cut porky out.
It`s nice to dream…
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 No.413774

>>413768
>Sinovac,Cansino and Sputnik present in Mexico
>Adding Abdala

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