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 No.213976[View All]

Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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 No.412357

>>412353
If the virus is mutated enough then it will produce different antibodies to the virus. But so far all the studies are showing 60-70% vax effectiveness to the new variant
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 No.412358

>>412349
Since when did you care about Indians?
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 No.412366

>>412359
It doesnt suppress the immune system, since it’s just the spike protein of the virus its mostly inert therefore the body doesn’t mount a stronger response. The covid virus is more invasive than just spike proteins, it injects dna and rna probably
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 No.412376

>>412369
No it doesnt, i asked you for sources if you have any
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 No.412384

>>412379
No its not you moron, ive never seen anywhere that specifically says it suppresses the normal immune response. It uses the immune response to make antibodies
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 No.412448

I went to look more shit about the vaccine up and now there’s claims it can make women sterile? Why does it seem the world is weary of trusting these mrna vaccines

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9856420671
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 No.412461

>>412393
> Although the current vaccine candidates have demonstrated the ability the reduce symptoms and the number of viruses in the lower respiratory tract, there is as of yet no evidence of sterilizing immunity in the upper respiratory tract.5

>For sterilizing immunity to be achieved, a vaccine needs to trigger a specific immunologic response, typically in the form of neutralizing antibodies (NAb). These are defensive proteins synthesized by the immune system that specifically target and neutralize a disease-causing organism like a virus.

It still reduces the viral load but youre right about the sterilizing thing.
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 No.412477

>>412375
If the strains get more deadlier like your source said the only ones who’ll survive are vaccinated individuals since that will become the baseline anyways
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 No.412514

A report issued on Friday by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) looked at a series of hypothetical scenarios related to Covid-19 variants, finding it a “realistic possibility” that a mutation could appear with a case fatality rate comparable to SARS (10%) or MERS (35%), both of which belong to the coronavirus family.
https://www.rt.com/uk/530756-covid-mutations-death-rate/
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 No.412535

>>412503
Ok so if they came out with a vaccine that replicates the bodys natural immune response and neutralizes it, would you take it then?
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 No.412555

>>412550
So I dont get how this leaky vaccine shit works now. Is it just masking symptoms and the infection remains? How come vaccinated people aren’t getting the same lung damage and effects as unvaccinated people then? Technically if the virus is still there hiding and working in the background it should do the same damage, just with less directly perceptibe symptoms.
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 No.412578

>>412567
>One study from Israel, which leads the world in coronavirus vaccinations, gives some clues about what’s behind this reduced transmission. Researchers identified nearly 5,000 cases of breakthrough infection in previously vaccinated people, and determined how much virus was present in their nose swabs. Compared to unvaccinated people, the amount of virus detected was significantly lower in those who got vaccinated.

>More virus in the nose has been linked to greater infectiousness and increased risks of onward transmission.

I found this study, they are all saying viral load is still reduced in vaccinated individuals and the likelihood of transmission is also reduced. It makes sense though since a coofer would be more contagious than an asymptomatic person. If the vaccine reduces viral load then it should be working, regardless of if you have a minor background infection or not still
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 No.412601

>>412582
If they stop working it should be the same as unvaccinated because the immune system will mount the full neutralizing response for the new strain instead
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 No.412630

>>412620
Shut the fuck up Phil you schizo.
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 No.412642

>>412606
>which is why the vaxxed will be MORE at risk from new variants than the unvaxxed while being LESS able to fight it off thanks to decreased numbers and potency of non specific antibodies thanks to the immune system constantly pumping out these SPECIFIC NOW OUTDATED ones
~ 95% (in some regions even more, 97 or even approaching 99%) of people currently hospitalized with Covid are un-vaccinated. The data is clear and directly contradicts your narrative. You typing in ALL CAPS doesn't change this fact. Seethe more about it.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/07/more-than-99-of-people-hospitalized-with-covid-in-nj-have-been-unvaccinated-murphy-says.html
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 No.412658

>>412650
shut the fuck up schizoid
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 No.412678

‘Craving a vegan sausage roll now!’: Anti-vaxxers go plant-based as law firm says it could be illegal to force Covid jab on vegans

On Thursday, law firm Lewis Silkin told The Telegraph that it was likely ethical vegans would be protected by employment law if employers were to implement rules mandating vaccinations for their staff.

The firm said that “some ethical vegans may disagree with vaccinations on the basis that they inevitably have been tested on animals,” adding that ethical veganism has been found to amount to a belief by employment tribunal.
https://www.rt.com/uk/530667-britain-covid19-vegan-vaccine/
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 No.412679

>>412667
the use of my cock increased an incredible 600% in your mother. mrs. greaves knows what she likes, what can i say.
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 No.412683

>>412650
>bourgeois doctors
lol
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 No.412694

>>412690
You’re funny in the same sense a gorilla throwing shit at the zoo is funny.
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 No.412696

>>412692
>Over my dead body.
promises promises
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 No.412702

>>412690
>It's the 'Doctors purge didn't happen it should of' retard again.
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 No.412703

>>412690
>Cuba, China, Vietnam and the DPRK should kill all of their doctors.
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 No.412706

>>412697
I hope you will report live for the thread when the U.N.-Gates Foundation-MI5-Globohomo Forces knock on your door.
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 No.412715

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>>412714
>if Cuba does too, that's when you'll know for sure it's abandoned socialism
You dropped this.
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 No.412723

>>412718
>I'm perfectly mentally sane
famous last words
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 No.412728

>>412718
FOR FUCKS SAKE.

The conflict in regards to lockdowns is between the corporate and the petite bourgeoisie with proles and lumpen being mobilised by either side (Anti-Lockdown protests on the side of the petite and this entire 'covid-shaming' culture that has been created by the corporate)

Corporate porkies want the world shutdown giving them an excuse to pay people even more shit, make them work harder and most importantly drive the petite out of business allowing for further consolidation

The petite reason for wanting 'reopening' (a.k.a 'wagies get back in your cagies') is simply because their literally being driven out of the competition.
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 No.412730

I guess Phil was arrested by the UN-Gates Foundation forces
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 No.412894

>>412890
Xposted to PW
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 No.412898

>>412890
Fucking retard burgershits may have doomed us all you shutdown pandemic then you mass vaccinate

Vaccinating like they've done is textbook how to evolve vaccine overcoming strains
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 No.412935

>>412898
Well when you have people that are like oh its just the flu. They assume oh let me take this vaccine and I will be good to go, well then you also have the antivaxxers which creates the perfect storm for a super bug. If anything this is just like the whole issue with the Spanish Flu where the second waves came and were more deadly than the first. So all I can say is be careful burger comrades even if you got the shot. You are still a living incubator.
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 No.412982

>>277901
most top sports players become rentiers or investors, though. something that takes such a toll on your body isn't a lifelong career. by 35 most of them are full-fledged capitalists.
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 No.413014

>>412898
well yeah if it doesn't evolve then they can't sell you booster shots every year

the solution is now, as it has been for a while, to nuke burgerstan into oblivion so the rest of the world can progress
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 No.413128

>>412642
>I don't understand the difference between statements about the present and scientfic predictions about the near future
>New Jersey is the whole world
You're a fucking moron with room temperature iq
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 No.413135

>>412935
>well then you also have the antivaxxers which creates the perfect storm for a super bug
Read the thread.The vaxxed are vectors for more deadly strains - not the unvaxxed.
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 No.413158

Just got the Cuckstra Zeneca
Vaxxxpill me on that one.
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 No.413168

>>413158
You should start transforming into a catboy twink any second now
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 No.413169

So did that fucking retard leninhat finally get banned?
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 No.413181

>>413169
Guess so.
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 No.413207

I wish I could have gotten Soberana-2 or Abdala, I had to take a bourgeois vaccine.
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 No.413235

>>413181
fucking finally
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 No.413442

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Mexico's President AMLO warns, "we must not submit to the dictates of Big Pharma:"
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 No.413454

>>413442
BASADO
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 No.413597

>>413442
Extremely based.
When will they try assassinating him now?
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 No.413600

>>413442
Is it just me or is AMLO getting more and more based in the latest months?
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 No.413649

>>413442
AMLO is decently based, but this is a stupid method to put it. The first few parts are correct that pharmaceutical companies do have the motive to gain profit, so the government should be cautious to not get scammed. The last part, about the "vaccinations for children" and so is quite irresponsible to say, because that just lends itself to antivax BS later down the line, and also gives the A*glo glowie press excuses to call for coups.
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 No.413757

>>413235
He'll be back. They always come back.

Anyway, has China made its vaccine publicly available?
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 No.413768

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>>413442
Didn't AMLO send a boatload of oil to Cuba this past week? Watch him BTFO Bugerstan and work out a deal for Cuban vax manufacturing and cut porky out.
It`s nice to dream…
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 No.413774

>>413768
>Sinovac,Cansino and Sputnik present in Mexico
>Adding Abdala

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