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READING
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
For a complete reading list, see: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2020/05/01/two-reading-lists/

Cockshott's Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/williamCockshott/

Cockshott's youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ

Cockshott's Blogs
https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/
http://paulcockshott.co.uk/

Cockshott's videos torrent archive
Here's the torrent with all of Paul Cockshott's YouTube channel videos up to 27/10/2020 (i.e. Eliminating inequality):
Magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d5e5cc7a91228fef2ea213f816b27cfea8185961&dn=Paul%5FCockshott%5F%28October%5F27th%5F2020%29&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.cyberia.is%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fp4p.arenabg.ch%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker1.itzmx.com%3A8080%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker3.itzmx.com%3A6961%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.zerobytes.xyz%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tiny-vps.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ds.is%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.si%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fretracker.lanta-net.ru%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopen.acgnxtracker.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.moeking.me%3A6969%2Fannounce
Torrent file:
https://anonymousfiles.io/RileL0Sn/

This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT.

Archives of previous thread
https://archive.is/uNCEY
https://web.archive.org/web/20201218152831/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/997358.html
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 No.364862

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 No.366290

Just checking any real world application of Cockshott models yet or are we still in la la land
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 No.366449

>>366290
We will be in "la la land" until cockshottists get political power there are already models that apply his work but non of that matter without political power.
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 No.366627

>>366290
pretty much what >>366449 said. I have a theory that we can build cybersoc bottom-up, but that's probably wishful thinking
best bets right now is likely the DPRK or Bolivia, unless the CPC stops with the revisionism
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 No.366690

>>366627
Imo I'd add Nepal and Philippines strongly and put 'Latin America' and 'India' more broadly in a '?' category for 'attentive analysis', because they are definitely major areas of potential vs the remaining, unnamed places of the planet.
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 No.367449

>>366690
I guess we can summarize this as: wherever socialists happen to come into power
the massive strike in India makes me hopeful. seems plugging cybersoc to naxalites would be worthwhile. any india anons in here?
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 No.367454

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>>362309
I made that one! Here is my more recent video in 720p.
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>>367449
You have to adapt cybersoc to Indian conditions, they still have the cast system going, and you need to add a few additional steps to Cockshott's program to smash the remnants of the cast system.
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 No.367626

>>366290
the same mathematical apparatus that cockshott uses is already used by large internationals to plan and optimize internal production, only their objective function is profits maximization

>>366627
>>366690
>>367449
>>367459
funny how you technocracy wannabes always completely ignore the politics aspect and democracy as an economic mechanism, and threat socialist project like a purely technical problem even tho cockman seems to understand the importance of politics
fucking stem idealists ruining everything as always
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 No.367890

>>367626
hush normie

>>367459
I trust indian comrades, who have way more insight into this than I ever could, have plenty of ideas how to deal with it
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 No.368135

>>367890
>I trust indian comrades, who have way more insight into this than I ever could, have plenty of ideas how to deal with it
Yes, we could call it cockshottian cybernetic socialism that has the indian patch applied to it.
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 No.368152

>>367890
>how to deal with it
Unironically cultural revolution is the only way to deal with it.
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 No.368886

>>326525
>>327152
Came ITT just to post about this too. The dude seems retarded when it comes to imperialism. Arguably an isolationist rightoid leader might be even more useful than an imperialist "democratic socialist".
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 No.368897

>>368886
Also why does this thread attract so much seethe?
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 No.368941

>>368897
Hell if I know. These threads used to be chill, then an influx in anti-Cockshott posting started a few months ago.
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 No.369002

>>368941
It's at least partially Infracells.
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 No.369026

>>369002
I blame too many newfags and other people who weren't around for the 2017-2018 cybernetics wars
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 No.369208

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>>368135
or, dare I say, socialism with indian characteristics?

>>368152
probably

>>368941
might have to do with paul's channel reaching 10k subs?

>>369026
>the 2017-2018 cybernetics wars
elaborate
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 No.370966

>>352469
Let's see who agrees with Cockshott:

Alan Cottrell (obvious), Dave Zachariah, Anwar Shaikh, Nihls Froehlich, Valle Baeza, Emmanuel Farjoun, Moshé Machover, Victor Yakovenko….


Let's see who enjoys your presence in this thread:

Nobody.
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 No.376825

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 No.376847

>>376825
By that logic he should also have lost his finger and toe nails.
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 No.376854

>>376847
And he'd probably be a nice fresh pink after losing a layer of dead skin cells, dandruff, etc. Plus I wonder what would happen to other organic matter like bodily waste, any dead bacteria that happen to be chilling in the gut microbiome, the bits of detached retina that peel off and turn into "eye floaters", earwax in the ear canal, oh man Neil "Smoke" deGrasse really comes up with some great hypotheticals
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 No.376862

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>>376825
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 No.377050

>>376862
Is there any date that has astronomical significance every ~365.25 days?
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 No.377271

>>377050
earth perigee/apogee?
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 No.377664

>>376865
bâséd
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 No.387260

i was banned from /g/ for shilling dickblast
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 No.387396

>>387260
link?
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 No.388586

>>388572
what even is this word salad
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 No.388589

>>388586
A GPT-3 post
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 No.388591

>>388572
shut the fuck up nick land-bot
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 No.389147

>>388586
2 cyb3r 4 u
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 No.391984

>>389147
:c
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 No.392062

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yo what's up gamers, can anyone tell me anything about the "china DOS union"? is it actually an official union or is just a couple of memers having fun?
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 No.392758

look how this funny fed tries to debunk cockshott
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 No.392799

>>392758
bump
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 No.392803

>>392758
knockoff Hakim but anglo
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 No.392896

>>392758
>New American "Left"
>thinks calculation in kind == soviet-style material balance planning
>planners exist
>planners are a class
>planners are bourgeois
>planners want environmental collapse
come on CIA at least put some effort into your trolls. also who are this "we" that the video refers to?
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 No.392910

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 No.392916

>>392910
what's with the fucking stick?
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 No.392936

>>392896
Could you give a proper breakdown on why he isn’t worn get
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 No.392941

>>392936
you mean "why he isn't wrong"? which "he"?
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 No.392944

>>392941
I mean why new American left isn’t wrong
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 No.392961

>>392944
>why new American left isn’t wrong
be he's wrong
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 No.392964

bump
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 No.393649

>>388572
lmao did you cyber autists really report this
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 No.393652

>>392758
did anyone save it?
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 No.412775

>>231854
You've never done any linear programming modeling in your life if you think it can solve a universal economic allocation problem

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