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Sentience Anonymous 2021-07-30 (Fri) 21:50:26 No.411635

Let's stop thinking about sentience as exclusive to humans and mammals but rather as a state of self awareness found in objects that posses the following traits
>the ability to observe their surroundings
>the ability to feel and react to stimuli
>the ability to have goals and desires
1 could say let's just use a simply spherical robot for example could be considered sentient if it's main purpose was to shoot apples with bullets, if that robot had a built in camera and auditory system that allowed it to navigate its surroundings and if it was able to react to things that threatened that robots survival and ability to find and shoot apples. Its sounds simple yet sentience can extend alot deeper than something as small as and apple shooting ai, think of sentience as not just a trait but a quantifiable measurement of abstraction that allows an entity to become increasingly self aware with the more diverse reactions, observations and desires it has the more sentient or "human" it becomes and likewise entities like androids may become easier to achieve than one would think if admittedly the tech that's available is far below what a true android could utilize. Oh well just a thought

Anonymous 2021-07-30 (Fri) 21:52:34 No.411639

How is this related to leftism in any way. You do realize this isn't a random schizo thoughts board right?

Anonymous 2021-07-30 (Fri) 21:54:31 No.411642

>>411639
How is it not. The collective of proles posses similar wants reactions and observations on their lives being the wanting for better payment and working conditions, the ability to observe better working opportunities and the ability to react poorly to shit vs good working conditions benefits and wages. Something like that would be useful for any leader

Anonymous 2021-07-30 (Fri) 21:55:52 No.411644

OP I think you're confusing sentience with sapience. This is already what sentient means.

Anonymous 2021-07-30 (Fri) 21:55:59 No.411646

>>411642
This cop out reminds me of randoms /tv/ threads with 'kinos for this' in the OP

Anonymous 2021-07-30 (Fri) 22:56:41 No.411777

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>>411635
>implying most humans are even sentient in the first place

Anonymous 2021-07-30 (Fri) 23:47:16 No.411836

>>411777
>le everyone is an npc meme
Yeah I'm aware about how many people dont have an internal monologue but that doesnt deprive them of the ability to learn much less prevent their body from sending basic stimuli when shit hits the fan and they're being abused you dumb fuck

Anonymous 2021-07-31 (Sat) 00:04:04 No.411862

>>411836
I'm not even sure I buy the idea that most people have no internal monologue. How the fuck would that even work

Anonymous 2021-07-31 (Sat) 00:25:46 No.411890

>>411862
You'd be surprised just search it up, most of the human population lacks the ability to hear their own voice in their head

Anonymous 2021-07-31 (Sat) 00:32:36 No.411896

>>411836
>>411890
Reminder that the study your likely referring to was completely bogus and done without any proper constraints for testing, like control groups and what not. Literally everyone has an "internal monologue", it's called thinking and thinking with your voice. You of course aren't actually hearing voices outright.

Anonymous 2021-07-31 (Sat) 00:36:23 No.411898

>>411896
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/aug/24/experience-i-cant-picture-things-in-my-mind

Anonymous 2021-07-31 (Sat) 01:34:07 No.411961

>>411898
>Extremely rare metal deficiency is "the majority"
If it truly was the majority, the article wouldn't surprised in the first place, and we'd have an article opposite in its topic.

Anonymous 2021-07-31 (Sat) 02:17:03 No.412024

>>411896
that's entirely false. some people are visual thinkers, some are a mixture, and some think with more ambiguous feelings. not everyone has the internal voice like in a romcom describing everything that's happening or what they're doing.

Anonymous 2021-07-31 (Sat) 02:47:37 No.412061

>>412024
>not everyone has the internal voice like in a romcom describing everything that's happening or what they're doing.
That's not what people mean by "internal monologue". If you can actually "hear" something, as in your brain to you ears, as opposed to imagining a voice as if you were just talking to yourself (but in your head), something is actually up.

Anonymous 2021-07-31 (Sat) 05:55:09 No.412347

AI is a meme and the desire to attribute sentiance to it is just techie autism.

Consider the following, is, according to your three traits, a kettle sentient?
>Observe
Yes, it has a bi-metal plate to sense heat
>React
Yes, the bi-metal plate bends and thus powers off the kettle at the right temperature
>Goal
To boil water

If we follow this line of logic, we see that by your description, basic automation = sentience. At the end of the day even the most advanced "AI" is just a kettle, only with hundreds of times more sensory organs and internal logic calculators instead of a singular bi-metal plate.

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