>>411140impressive use of death of the author to spin your own interpretation, alas i'm quite undead and here to offer my own view:
a more apt interpretation would be that i'm mocking tech autists for their idealism: they don't appreciate the material factors that drive people to use one product over another, and as such they're bad at evangelizing. they get to feel superior, sure, that's even a social pull for some people, but if your end goal is to have everyone using good software and not bad software, you're on a road to nowhere with the present strategy.
i trust you can't see the gigantic flashing "hint hint" on this, but others might enjoy it.
>>411144what about bus drivers, teamsters, train drivers, and on and on and on. your own definition only really captures the means of production. distribution and exchange be damned?
>>411158genuinely impressive how many posters on /leftypol/ can find a post that is essentially attacking idealism, saying that a common idealized image people hold has no modern material basis, and go "ah, yes, idealism."
but very telling that none of them manage a comprehensive response. none say "this is idealist, and here is why", all the bulk of them can say is "idealism! sage!"
>>411172>what matters is their relationship with the means of production, have you forgotten?on the contrary, it is what i am trying to emphasize. the problem is that people think "workers relation to the means of production" and then go "yes, a coal miner and his coal, a steelworker and his steal" rather than a checkout operator and her till. a shelf stacker and his cans. an airline catering worker and her i (i freely admit i don't know anything about airline food).
>a bunch of imageboard-using retards being mad about "le normies" is not indicative of any real problem of the non-american leftit is, however, something that people on this board do. something it might be useful to point out so as to make them angry and bring them into the open, something which (even if you will go to your grave calling me an idealist) i'm sure you will agree has been successful.
>>411275bold and brash, i like it.
411309 (no you) jesus christ
>>411416>"worker" which is a vague term, Marxists used proletariat I'm glad nobody on /leftypol/ ever says worker.
>there is no "image of the average worker" the work force is incredibly diverse Google image search "worker", quite literally everyone is wearing hard hats.
>Is there even a point you're making here?Several, but this post has gone on quite too long already and I like to leave it so that we get posts like…
>>411452Because it really is amazing how you can make people contort their interpretation of a post just by using a certain flag.
(And really, The Guardian! I won't settle for less than the New Statesman.)