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 No.409511

Stop it, even Castro hated those faggots. They always had been funded by imperial-core and there are proofs for that
I live in Turkey and those bastards did nothing for leftism at southeast; they didn't make any labor-strike, they didn't spread communism to youth, they didn't make anything for causes like secularism or feminism. What they only did was tricking* the kurdish youth (where they use them as a tool, many of them becomes regretful) and doing terrorıst attacks against civillians, mostly proletariat. They didn't make any attack against our bourgeoisie, while orgs like DHKP-C were literally kidnapping them and killing them at live*(or similar attacks).They did nothing but made racial-relations worse and created an schizoism for nationalism at there, while some of them were literal ultranationalists which called theirselves "Aryan". They made communism's optics really bad, where being anarchist/communist literally means being a (,anti-civillian) terrorıst and you need to say "i'm a communist but not support them" to the people. Those faggots are getting their money from dirty places, such as drugs/prositituon*/gunrunning/human trafficking, which damages the proletariat
Now those son of a bitches flamed 23 forests at there. I'm not saying they killed civillians, they burned the forests with the animals inside. When they were fucking pro-ecology? They literally burned up entire forests and killed a lot of animals while many of proletariat had lose their houses and jobs. HOW IS IT FUCKING RELATED TO LEFTISM, ESPECİALLY FOR ECOLOGY?!
HOW KILLING ANIMALS AND BURNING FORESTS ARE COMMUNIST?!
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 No.409514

>>409511
What is Castro saying there?
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 No.409523

Sorry OP I honestly don't follow Turkey politics so I don't have a real opinion on the matter but I will trust you.
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 No.409524

>I live in Turkey
Not saying PKK is based or anything but why should I trust a Turk to speak fairly about the PKK?
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 No.409525

>>409524
Because the PKK operates in Turkey too and OP is Turk.
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 No.409533

Didn't they stop claiming to be communist in the 90s?
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 No.409535

>>409518
Retard.
>X group kills proletariat, burn forests and does human trafficking
<MuH Y hAteS ThEm, So ThEy ArE BaSeD
>>409524
>why should I trust a Turk
I'm not a Turk
>>409514
> PKK is US's oil-keeper/guard
There are papers about how they get their money:
https://www.refworld.org/docid/52f3438d4.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150303121152/https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/contending-with-the-pkks-narco-terrorism
https://web.archive.org/web/20200612173202/https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=247109
https://web.archive.org/web/20200210190627/https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/tocta/5.Heroin.pdf
>>409533
>Didn't they stop claiming to be communist in the 90s?
They still use communist aesthetics and "name", but there is nothing they did about communism
They even not liked/hated by other communist orgs in Turkey, including """"terrorıst"""" ones
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 No.409536

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what's up with butthurt nationalists lately? first the paki and now this cockroach
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 No.409538

>>409525
But it's like asking a Russian for their opinion on Chechnyan seperatists.
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 No.409543

>>409536
>butthurt nationalists
I'm an internationalist you uyghur, PKK is who are nationalist
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 No.409548

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>>409543
sure thing recep
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 No.409565

>>409548
Kill yourself
They even attacked to the "anti-racist communist" rally and killed youth
Reason? "There can't be any peace between Turks and Kurds"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xmbqbsMjpMo
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 No.409567

>>409565
Video is nsfw by the way
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 No.409628

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 No.409633

>>409535
>>PKK is US's oil-keeper/guard
Did he mean the YPG? Seems like it would be way more accurate term for them than for the PKK
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 No.409635

>>409543
>I'm an internationalist
do you defend the idea of turkey as a nation state and it's territorial integrity ?
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 No.409637

what do you think of ibrahim kaypakkaya and the tkp/ml
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 No.409659

Kek, fuck off turk, Nato harder. They didn’t ruin optics, libs do that all by themselves. A cheap nato trick to simply call them terrorists
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 No.409668

>>409511
Nice to see another turkanon here.

PKK at its inception had all the reasons to wage a guerilla war, turkification policies/massive discrimination (it was literally forbidden to call yourself a kurd lmao) and the state's zero interest in actually developing the region and helping its people certainly helped.

However after some they either lost their principles or went full psycho mercenary.
anyone who had a quarrel with turkey backed these guys.
These ppl are terrorists without a shadow of a doubt. I myself lost a relative (math teacher teaching in a small town in SE Turkey). Like why would you do that;? what does that accomplish? Executing conscripts, civillians, uncooperative villagers?

rant over

A few M-L friends of mine genuinely think that afghan refugees with CIA/US connections started the fires, any info on this? seems far fetched.

While i absolutely expect pkk to have done this, couldn't this be climate change? this year
was especially hot in here (aegean region)

oh also, what do you think about the afghans coming in? i always stood up for refugees based on humanism while you can send syrians back to assad at some point you literally can't send afghans to anywhere,afghanistan is a fucking dumpster since the soviet intervention there.

>>409536
is this just how imageboards are? my homeland is on fire you ass, wow.
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 No.409681

>>409668
Yeah, this is just how imageboards are.
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 No.409691

>>409668
>However after some they either lost their principles or went full psycho mercenary.
Any reason why this happened? Was it because Apo was captured
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 No.409768

>>409691
Capture of Öcalan is my primary guess too, they also abandoned their leftist (and atheist) beliefs to convince sunni kurdish peasants to support them around the same time.
Due to heavy censorship from the state and unreliability of information provided by PKK themselves i might be wrong though.

Another rant because if i spoke about these things in public nationalists would lynch me


I fucking hate this conflict. Thousands of people died, countless atrocities by both the state and pkk, cost of the war hampering the economy's growth and development of the east .. its just painful. God i really hoped for erdog's peace process to work and i honestly think the US sabotaged it (a cop was killed, talks broke down, pkk repeatedly denied that they carried out the attack)

Why is peace so hard anons?
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 No.409775

>>409536
>cockroach
>>409536
>paki

Fuck off /pol/(falseflag)
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 No.409780

>>409668
>A few M-L friends of mine genuinely think that afghan refugees with CIA/US connections started the fires
least retarded turks
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 No.409792

>>409782
You don't even try to hide your /pol/ origins lmao, get banned.
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 No.410650

>>409659
Fuck off uyghur. I hope your friend or family would die at """"leftist""""" terrorıst attack
>>409668
>A few M-L friends of mine genuinely think that afghan refugees with CIA/US connections started the fires, any info on this? seems far fetched.
1-They found a lot of suspicous members, like :https://twitter.com/pusholder/status/1420836475332186113?s=19
2-Slightly afters flames began, some PKK-supporters celebrated them
>oh also, what do you think about the afghans coming in? i always stood up for refugees based on humanism while you can send syrians back to assad at some point you literally can't send afghans to anywhere,afghanistan is a fucking dumpster since the soviet intervention there.
İt's complicated. I think we should take children, disabled and some women but ı'm confused about others. What i think is we should take them, but not give them freedom and reeducate them to being integrated, secular, modern and tolerant civillians. Many of them are very ultra-conservative or bigot
>>409637
>tkp/ml
Either glowie honeypot or faggot/schizo center(such as nazbol-esque,macho-stalinist,polpot/prim) like other big-orgs
We have a lot of anprims at there, they do open rallies at big cities
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 No.410704

>>410650
>>tkp/ml
>Either glowie honeypot or faggot/schizo center(such as nazbol-esque,macho-stalinist,polpot/prim) like other big-orgs
Dude you sound like a complete moron.
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 No.410717

Oh Kurdistan, the one thing that'll turn an anarchist into a nationalist at the drop of a hat
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 No.410725

>>410704
>Dude you sound like a complete moron.
Reason? Every big leftist org is full of glowies and that's fact
Also, i don't know much about tkp/ml but tkp is garbage; there are also many garbage parties too. The problem is, those parties are generally "backward" on social causes and they are not much democratic, they also had retarded views. At one of their videos, they claimed that they will ban being unemployed and homeless and so on similar ideas. You can also add boomer-leftists similar to greek communist party
What i know an decent party/org is an one eco-socialist party
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 No.410772

>>410650
You’re a gusano and an idiot
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 No.410781

Sweet, another "fellow communists, we must denounce -" thread
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 No.410796

>>410725
https://www.marxists.org/archive/kaypakkaya/works/1972-kurdi.htm have a read. if you don't know so much about tkp/ml, this is on the relation of turkey and kurdistan
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 No.411003

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>>409511
>hate communist because not true communism
>love islamists like taliban and hezbollah
>t. Leftypol
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 No.411086

Have you guys tried bombing the fires with some drones ?
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 No.411141

>>411003
>islamists
>Hizbullah
OP here with fifferent phone
I don:t know what to say about you
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 No.411456

a kurdish family in konya was attacked (7 dead)
reason unknown, some say that the attack was racially motivated while some say that the attackers had a feud with them before.

What the fuck is happening in this country? i still didn't finish uni man i don't want race riots wtf
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 No.411486

>>411086
or some good old white phosphorus
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 No.411496

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>>409511
>root your movement in nationalism
>it ends up as nationalism
Surprise surprise. National liberation is a fucking meme
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 No.411516

im at a point where i believe most guerillas are actual retards and funded by cia tier shit
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 No.411517

>>409523
Basically, YPG are the only Kurds who aren't ethnic nationalists.
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 No.411527

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are these guys cool or all of them just shit
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 No.411541

This thread is what too much nationalism does to a mf
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 No.411550

>>411527
man that was unbelievable based
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 No.411553

The Kurds are quite clearly an oppressed nation, fuck off.
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 No.411718

those damned terrorists!
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 No.411817

>>411718
bruh they even got their names in the same format
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 No.411843

>>409565
>There can't be any peace between Turks and Kurds
They are right, though.
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 No.412900

>>411456
>a kurdish family in konya was attacked
>Konya
That's the problem. Konya is utter shithole and probably asshole of Turkey. You SHOULDN'T go there
>>411496
>Surprise surprise. National liberation is a fucking meme
İt's same with Kemalism. Now it's nothing but secular-nationalism
>>411527
>are these guys cool or all of them just shit
I'm talking about them, yeah. They made a lot of shit like that while PKK just attacked proletariat
>>411553
>The Kurds are quite clearly an oppressed nation, fuck off.
Opressed by forests?
Fuck off leninhat
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 No.412908

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>>412900
>Fuck off leninhat
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 No.412943

>>412908
Wait, Phil Greaves=Leninhat ????
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 No.412944

>>412943
The guy who writes at GlobalResearch.ca ?*
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 No.413120

Aside from the various rambling, can someone give me a QRD on how serious this fire situation is?
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 No.413122

>>412943
It's either him or an incredibly close devotee of his
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 No.413653

>>409565
What's your source for the PKK being behind this? I thought the evidence pointed to ISIL
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 No.413681

>>411516
>A western ML moment
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 No.413726

>>409511
Anon do you support Uyghur independence?
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 No.413780

>I live in Turkey

stopped reading there
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 No.413781

What did maoists like Kaypakkaya think about the Kurds? What was their fix for the Turkish-Kurd conflict?

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