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 No.404519

This thread is to discuss potential problems with Marxism in a relativistic society and how theory can solve them.

The first problem that comes to light is the tendency for the rate of profit to fall is affected by time dilation. If a spaceship is moving fast wrt Earth, the tendency for the rate of profit to fall will be slower in the spaceship.

Another problem is, for rates of profit to equalise across industries, it will require higher rates of profit in the spaceship since rates of profit on Earth will appear to be higher in the spaceship. For the same set of commodities to make a higher rate of profit in the spaceship, either exploitation needs to be greater or socially necessary labour time needs to be lower in the spaceship.

Lastly, workers on the spaceship appear to be working slower than those on Earth. Should this affect socially necessary labour time? I don't think so because the workers on the spaceship are also consuming less.

As well as these general problems with Marxism, can Cockshottian planning work in a relativistic society?
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 No.404559

Doesn't really matter all that much.

When ever there is significant enough Delta V between two parts of the systems to cause noticeable dilation, material exchange isn't possible anyway. It's easier to treat parts of the system as separate autonomous systems until they are in the same inertial frame. It's possible to exchange information when moderate dilation occurs, but the cost of reproducing information is below the threshold where you would bother metering costs.

I'm not sure how practical interstellar civilizations are, you wouldn't exactly transport material goods via cargo ship between stars. Just people and their travel supplies.

There would be time dilation for a solar system sized civilisation as well, but only on the level that it messes with computer synchronization. You would just have to lower bandwidth until 0s and 1s are far enough apart for every transmitter in the system to be able to reliably tell them apart. For time synchronization you add an subtract correction seconds in a alternating pattern between inertial frames, so nobody looses or wins time in the aggregate.
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 No.404560

Rick and morty tier rant.
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 No.404567

lmao good one
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 No.404578

>>404519
Any interstellar society will require a warp metric of some sort for propulsion which means relativistic effects won't be experienced since ships will move nonlocally.
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 No.404579

>>404519
Capitalism will die long before humans reach near-lightspeed space travel. Not a problem.
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 No.404622

Guys, what if Narnia was marxist???

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