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 No.401929

What do you think should be done with the homeless people living in California? Some of them are forced into destitution by capital or mental illness but a lot of them aren't. What should be done about lifestyle-vagrantism?
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 No.401935

Seize empty houses and rehouse them there under state supervision. If there aren't enough (I don't know about the housing situation in California), build more houses.
Any other "solution" is stupid.
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 No.401937

Give them a job and a gf
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 No.401940

Start a migrant caravan towards Canada
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 No.401953

If the government is inescapable of protecting and severing it's citizens, then the people have the right to protect and liberate themselves from a corrupt system
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 No.401955

>>401953
>inescapable
Fuck me retarded, *incapable*
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 No.401966

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 No.401983

First we have to educate retards like you who don't know how homelessness exists or that it can be solved overnight.
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 No.401995

>>401929
Re-education camps.
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 No.401997

Offer them a job and a home.
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 No.401999

>>401929
I've been thinking about making a similar thread for awhile. I'm not sure what proportion of homeless people are lumpen, but there are certainly more lumpen homeless people than in any other group. Also, there's a significant minority that is straight up dangerous due to mental illness.
The first step would be housing as many people as possible and those who do not accept housing will have to face some kind of consequence. If you're guaranteed a job and place to live you have no reason to live on the street.
For those who are mentally ill, involuntary commitment will have to be brought back. The issue with the old system was it was used to warehouse "undesirables" in a place where no one had to see them. A revamped system will need to have a clear path for reintegration, simply warehousing people will not work.
In large California cities, like LA, large housing projects are needed, similar to those carried out during the Red Vienna period. That coupled with the seizure of unoccupied houses (whether their vacation or investment properties) should create enough housing to house all those who want a place to live. That way you can separate out the lumpen pretty easily.
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 No.402001

>>401929
>What do you think should be done with the homeless people living in California?
Press them into the new Cheka against landlords.
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 No.402002

>>401983
>>401997
He's referring to what are essentially lifestylists, not people who have fallen through the cracks. People who wouldn't accept a job/housing even if they were given one.
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 No.402004

Don't a lot of homeless people have jobs?
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 No.402007

>>402004
I think it's about ~10-20% according to the LA statistic
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 No.402009

>>402002
Genuinely sane people who choose the homeless "lifestyle" are so rare that they're basically not worth talking about. It's just a conservative boogeyman to discourage people from supporting welfare/housing programs.
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 No.402012

>>401929
Construct state factories, give them jobs, and then subsidize production so that it can undercut private competition.
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 No.402015

>>402002
Are you telling me that tens of thousands of homeless people are "lifestylists"? Yup I'm 100% convinced that either you and OP come from /pol/ or that you both are glowies spouting stupid shit. We have been getting raided recently with increasingly absurd posts so there's nothing you can do or sat to get out of your schizo shit.
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 No.402020

>>402015
OP is talking about "lumpen" homeless people, not all homeless people you fucking retard
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 No.402021

>>402020
In that case, OP should stop using the word "lumpen" as if it's some kind of moral judgment. In Marxian terms, all non-working homeless people are lumpens. It has nothing to do with their intent or their moral character, it's just a class observation.
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 No.402024

>>402020
That makes it worse because there's zero materialist analysis about the Lumpen. This shit has been already expounded upon by people more smarter than you, or me or OP. If OP wants answers he should read instead of wasting space. /thread.
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 No.402042

Commie blocks are comfy if well maintained.
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 No.402051

>>401966
why is middle host such a fucking cunt?
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 No.402057

By building more homes to drive down demand and hence prices
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 No.402063

>>402021
homeless populations also often include parts of the reserve army of labor, the reality is that working class, reserve army, and lumpen are all fluid categories than an individual is likely to move in and out of their lifetime. Marxist Feminists have also spent some time arguing that unwaged housework is just as crucial to the reproduction of the working class as that of wage labour and should therefore be considered an element of it - I find attempts to write off entire segments of the population as 'not a worker' as extremely dishonest is my point.
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 No.402122

>>402063
You have a point, but I think there's a pretty unmistakable and not totally insignificant portion of the population who neither engage in productive labor nor have any interest in doing so.
I do think Marx was arguably too harsh with his concept of lumpens, and Engels is actually generally the better analyst. His view was much closer yours i.e., he emphasized that the lumpenproletariat were still broadly proles, they just less class conscious/respectable proles.

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