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 No.401385

this might belong in /b/ but, I was thinking about Ferdinand Sassure and linguistics and how, no words or concepts are atomic. Every concept is an interface in the sense that it's meaning is based on relations to other objects/concepts. Even things like awareness (implies being aware of something).

So with that in mind, the concept of woman is not an atomic one, it involves many things and objects that are all related to each other. It isn't culture specific either because any Bedouin or Siberian man would agree that a white woman is still a *woman*, even though she has different customs and her own ideas of femininity that aren't theirs.

Transgender people are called trans women or Two-spirit and not women because they are a fundamentally different thing than regular women. Like, nobody can say they are 100% the exact same thing, right? that's like calling red blue
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 No.401404

>>401385
>or Two-spirit
uygha are you a native american from 1812 or some shit
anyways trans women is as much a concept as womanhood as a tomboy is, and just as tomboy was once excluded from the mainstream conception of what womanhood constituted, trans people will be integrated into the conception of belonging as well - that or the very concept of womanhood itself will be destroyed as a consequence of rapid social upheaval under socialism redefining what it even means to begin with.

its all largely academic and mostly pedantic, nobody cares much for the exact definitions because people only loosely associate with the identity to begin with, the idea of the identity itself is a mix of cultural stereotypes and personal biases creating a false image of being
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 No.401413

>>401404
>anyways trans women is as much a concept as womanhood as a tomboy is, and just as tomboy was once excluded from the mainstream conception of what womanhood constituted,

there's a key difference, and I grew up in that time so I would know. tomboys were still considered women, but not womanly. so, a tomboy was an unfeminine woman, but still a woman nevertheless.

>trans people will be integrated into the conception of belonging as well - that or the very concept of womanhood itself will be destroyed as a consequence of rapid social upheaval under socialism redefining what it even means to begin with.


You don't know that. Far more likely to happen will be that, under Communism, transgender men will experience difficulties in finding sexual relationships and remain rare unless the population continues to boom, requiring more of them

>its all largely academic and mostly pedantic, nobody cares much for the exact definitions because people only loosely associate with the identity to begin with, the idea of the identity itself is a mix of cultural stereotypes and personal biases creating a false image of being


A Siberian man would still consider a woman from another culture a woman, it isn't cultural
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 No.401503

womanly is cultural, woman is not

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