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 No.400674

Yet that doesnt feel like the case as I've gotten older I've only resented capitalism more and more it's been documented that Good working conditions, Embracing rapid technological growth, Increasing population densities and the size of cities along with promoting Full employment are the biggest factors behind the rapid accumulation of material wealth for an economy, all of whom are almost never promoted in capitalist societies like the united states if profit is lost, neoliberal cities like New York city, paris, sao Paulo, tokyo, London etc feel like hell on earth due to the rampant homelessness, crime, corruption, poverty and wealth inequality that occur in those cities, problems that could easily be fixed in a month at most yet keep themselves alive because neoliberal policies keep them alive as it generates profit. Hell most of the "successful" buissnesses like amazon and apple dont even make an actual profit anymore they get their money directly off tax payer money to fulfill government interests but the tax payer is completely alienated from any of the benefits these borderline government institutions bring, this is all happening while technological innovation is actually decelerating in growth if not halting completely like what's going on in Europe while companies like Pfizer and moderna are making billions off scamming people to take a never ending barrage of nonworking vaccines. Whatever the fuck happens to the rich in the near future is anyone's guess but it's not gonna be a pretty site for them as they're causing alot of problems and at this point are viewed by me less like hardworking individuals or at the very least individuals that were smart enough to organize people into doing great things but rather as international thieves and scammers
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 No.400684

Dumb truism spoken by labor aristocrats.
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 No.400708

>>400684
I have at least 1 thing to ask, how do so many people trust that modern neoliberal policies actually help anyone at least a safe wealthy society?
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 No.400717

Teenagers are rarely landlords or business owners and low-income people die earlier.
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 No.400721

>>400708
They don't. It's why most under-40's don't believe that anymore.
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 No.400735

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>"The older you get the more conservative you become"
AKA
<Oh shit, oh fuck I was wrong it's all falling appart but I'm so invested now fuck fuck fuck!
<Quick, gimme something to rationalize the contradictions of the propaganda I based my beliefs on!

They are admitting to be both reactionaries and to have no beliefs of their own. People who say such things are the permanent born-again christians of politics.
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 No.400780

>>400674
>The older you get the more conservative you become

It was the boomers who coined this phrase during a time when upward mobility to the middle class was so easy mentally retarded people could do it.
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 No.400852

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>>400794
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 No.400856

>>400794
we already got enough hipsters here
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 No.401099

>>400708
Stockholm syndrome caused by wage slavery
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 No.401108

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>>401040
>dividing the working class voluntarily is fighting against exploitative capitalists
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 No.401114

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Its true when you grow up and realize social liberalism is a result of capitalism's ever growing need to expand markets
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 No.401118

>>400674
thia is only true for liberals
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 No.401120

>>400735
>strike against integration
this is the most stupidpol thing i've ever read
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 No.401252

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>neoliberal cities like New York city, paris, sao Paulo, tokyo, London etc feel like hell on earth due to the rampant homelessness, crime, corruption, poverty and wealth inequality that occur in those cities,
Could be worse. There could be no crime, and the rent would be 10,000 dollars a month for a one bedroom apartment.
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 No.401295

It's a meme that's mostly only been true for Boomers.

Like it or not, America achieved immense levels of prosperity after WWII. Prosperity that the Boomers got to experience. For a while, things were just getting better. People were getting richer. There were new commodities to purchase for cheap. It seemed like there were a million ways to make money. Reagan only doubled down on Boomer's psychotic optimism, letting them ignore the world around them and engage in rampant consumerism and wealth accumulation at the expense of unions and the working class.

The idea that people are going to become conservative as their older is ridiculous. It makes sense if you're young and ambitious and seek to create a fortune, then wish to maintain it when you're older. But if you're young, ambitious, and poor… and it becomes obvious you're going to stay poor, then you wouldn't make a rightward shift.
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 No.401330

>>400674

Social progressive beliefs today may be considered conservative in the future. By that logic, you will be conservative to future generations. In the 1960s, a socially progressive view was integrated public schools. People who may have held such progressive beliefs for the time would have conservative views on gay marriage and be considered a conservative in our time.

At least from the social dimension, one could become more conservative as society accepts socially progressive positions and the window for what is considered progressive changes.
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 No.401346

I think it's a line spouted by petit bourgeois types who were anarchists or Trotskyists at university. Then they leave and get jobs at daddy's company.
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 No.401351

It's actually a pretty Marxist line. As the labour aristocracy become controllers of capital and housing they become more capitalist. When your relation to capitalist goes from negative to positive you become more capitalist.

It no longer applys because the labour aritsocracy is being demolished.
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 No.402187

>>401114
It's called pink capitalism
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 No.402194

>>401252
lmao

Also the Nazi caps on the pigs is a nice touch.
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 No.402212

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>>401295
It's rampant individualism with "freedom" held up as the ultimate value but it's an abstract idea divorced from social context, so boomers won't wear a mask or get a vaccine "because it's my right" and they won't budge even if it kills them "because it's my right." Even if they know they should do it, they won't do it, because they're being told to do it, and therefore I'm not going to do it because you're telling me to do it!

Even if they claim to be "conservative," it's really an ultra-individualistic mentality. Their objections to social liberalism is in the same framework where they say that the left is "forcing them" to be politically correct, so they'll say racist slurs in public "because it's my right" and "this is freedom" and otherwise act as anti-social as possible. And there are liberal versions of this too. But I think this suicidal freedom has turned into a kind of unfreedom.

During times of growth and prosperity, this emphasis on individual freedom can be good. But when the reverse happens, it's just a catastrophe.
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 No.402218

>Yet that doesnt feel like the case
Post age >>400674
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 No.403592

>>400708
Alcoholic Trust Finders
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 No.403670

I didn't become more conservative so much as anti-liberal, a trait I incidentally share with conservatives. There's a major distinction. And I turned against the idea of taxes, as any rational person must, after seeing that despite how much the government takes everything is still breathtakingly shitty. I'm unironically an egoist, I just think my thoughts. However the cards may fall, those are my beliefs. Ascriptions that they are conservative or leftist beliefs, and the assumption that I have to adhere to a side, are the workings of a spook and are the attempts of lazy minds to pigeonhole me.

My negative opinion of capitalism has remained constant throughout, and I have yet to find a fool-proof variant of socialism I can fully get behind. My opinion on capitalism would shift if I was on the winning side of it, but unfortunately I was born at the foot of the mountain rather than on top of it and climbing it is a Sisyphean journey I'd prefer to opt out of. Especially considering how spooked the "work hard and you will succeed" mantra—the hardest workers are typically lower wage workers, and it is work designed to keep you where you are. High payed managerial work is easy.
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 No.410867

>>400674
I've been told this in university by an old professor (I'm not even from burgerland, but I did study in a burger based university in Eastern Europe), and I agreed with him back then. Now, I can't stand conservatism. It feels like they're a bunch of mentally ill monkeys who would refuse to exit a building if it's burning
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 No.410871

Nah only when i saw my life heavily affected by the right wing goverments i bacame truelly radical
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 No.410881

>>400674
It was never 100% true, but in the case that it was, it was because of generational wealth transfer. That hasn't happened yet with millennials (who have a lower share of the wealth than previous generations did in the same timeframe). Even when the transfer happens, it obviously won't be proportional across classes.
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 No.410910

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>>400674
The quote is less about (american) economic conservatism and more about social conservatism.

Old people often have problems adapting to new things, learning new language or technology, so changing world tends to stress and confuse them.
The old social structures are familiar, they understand them comparatively well. The feel better surrounded by those, so they value them more.
Religion, gender roles, dressing style, art - those are the things conservatives are conservative about.
Economy is also a part of the social order, but it's just a single part.

A boomer may be miffed by a "lazy" worker who wants compensation above starvation wage, but he'll be furious when a "man in a dress" wants to be called "she", because this is new, completely outside his comfort zone, contradicting the deeply ingrained religious dogma.

In your post, the only truly relevant bit is
>Pfizer and moderna are making billions off scamming people to take a never ending barrage of nonworking vaccines
This is the only part actually relevant to the quote, because conspiracy theories do correlate with conservatism somewhat.
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 No.410915

>>400674
>"The older you get the more conservative you become"
People who say this have material interests that align with the booj. Your politics is a product of your conditions. First post already pointed it out >>400684
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 No.410931

DoTP when?
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 No.411009

>>403670
>I'm unironically an egoist
>My negative opinion of capitalism has remained constant throughout
So you're a loser egoist
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 No.411022

When you work and raise children you have very little time to even think about politics. You become apolitical or more centrist as you see more gray instead of black&white.
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 No.411520

>"The older you get the more conservative you become"
Majority of zoomers are right-wing, while majority of leftists (at least in North America and Europe) are middle-aged or even older. It is literally other way around.
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 No.411531

>>411022
I thought that happened as soon as one enters the workforce and can only care about serving their own interests and liberating themselves from payments like income deductions and the cost of living
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 No.411536

people who say that usually dont have views at all and it mostly retard who were into that punk rock faggot shit
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 No.412145

>>411520
Are you deluded or retarded?
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 No.412232

>>411520
>Majority of zoomers are right-wing
No they're not. I love how desperate right-wingers have to been to force this yet it has not paid off at all in polling.
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 No.412234

>>411520
get out of discord/reddit/chan autismo zones. The vast majority of female zoomers are socdems/liberals/gommies, as well as most non incel/gymcel weirdos and frat boys

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