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 No.397802

What would happen to america if all the warehouse, fast food and retail workers became unskilled industrial labourers?
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 No.398016

>>397802
I guess you'd have more manufacturing? I don't know. You would also end up with a labor shortage in the service sector, the impact of which I am not certain of.
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 No.398027

>The real working class has never been tried
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 No.398046

>>397802
what does that even entail
you might as well have asked if they all became amphibian
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 No.398060

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It would make labor organizing 5 times easier. As Marx and Engles were apt to point out industrial production brings workers together en-mass under one location for the purposes of production. Service industry jobs require less labor and therefore less workers making thr workers that do work in those fields easier to exploit and have less chances of organizing.
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 No.398065

>>397802
….why would this happen?
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 No.398066

>>397802
>What would happen to america if all the warehouse, fast food and retail workers became unskilled industrial labourers?
That is what they are.

>>398060
>It would make labor organizing 5 times easier. As Marx and Engles were apt to point out industrial production brings workers together en-mass under one location for the purposes of production.
Have you ever been to a warehouse or a massive superstore? They are vast, massive industrial production centers.

t. Factory worker, used to work at a warehouse
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 No.398071

They're already unskilled labor, idiot
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 No.398086

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>>398066
They literally are not though. Fast food workers, maybe. But retail and warehouse workers do not produce anything of utility. Rather than simply manage the cycle of capital itself.
They are unskilled laborers but they are not industrial workers.

>Have you ever been to a warehouse or a massive superstore? They are vast, massive industrial production centers.

Only in the footage of amazon warehouses does this even remotely make sense. Most warehouses are not even close to this and depend upon the labor of 1 - 2 people.

t. Some one who actually worked as a warehouse worker and drove a fork lift in 0 degree weather for a agricultural company.
I am sensing some hostility to the fact that modern day workers may not be industrial proletariat. It's easy to draw any conclusion you want though when you are allowed to cherry pick the argument of the opposition, though.
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 No.398088

>unskilled labor

Cringe neolib framing, go back to reading Harry Potter
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 No.398111

Idiots here are just obsessed with the idea that the only "working class" are factory workers, aren't they?
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 No.398116

>>398111
Because industrial workers have a romantic image but you cant help but help feel sorry for service workers
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 No.398118

>>398111
No one said this you dumb uyghur.
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 No.398119

>>398118
Would you like fries with that retard?
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>>398119
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 No.398125

>>398118
>>398119
>>398122
stop
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 No.398126

>>398086
Warehouse workers are part of industrial distribution, industrial is everything that uses lots of capital to achieve economies of scale. Services are characterized by low capital investment and have very little economies of scale. You are right that warehouse workers are not doing production, but they are still part of the industrial system.
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 No.398697

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Replace unskilled with low skilled labour because even the jobs for the most retarded people on the planet require some sort of skill and a basic set of rules to follow.
As for your question if were under the assumption that the warehouse retail and fast food jobs got replaced with industrial workers 2 things would happen
Those 3 industries would become automated as they require pretty low effort to manage
There would be a rapid industrial boom and a turn to bring manufacturing to the west as the increased labour supply drives down wages and more assets in accumulation drives down the cost of living low enough that ordinary civilians can afford to have kids
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 No.398898

>>398118
Nobody has explicitly said this but it's very obvious reading what people think of the "proletariat" through association that all they conceive of is factory laborers. A pretty decent chunk of this site is trapped in the early 20th century at the latest theory-wise.
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 No.398916

>>398898
Obviously service sector workers are important especially waste management and medical care workers but on a scale yeah industrial workers tend to be the most important as they build the foundations for anything in society to you know, happen.
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 No.399079

>unskilled industrial labourers?
Not a thing.
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 No.399118

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>>398086
>They literally are not though.
Ok. I'm sure you're gonna actually make a case for why this is, rather than just start throwing around assertions.

>But retail and warehouse workers do not produce anything of utility.
Yes they do. Even a socialist mode of production requires logistics and people to work the stores.

Maybe you should define production here. When I worked as a warehouseworker in my factory, recieving all the components and delivering them to the production lines I was not a proletarian, but when I got transfered to the lines to attatch a piece of cable to a device, I became a proletarian?

>Only in the footage of amazon warehouses does this even remotely make sense.
Ok, so it only makes sense in the context of one of the biggest, fastest growingemployers in the US service sector that is indicative, once again, of the tendency if production to concentrate? I stnd corrected.

Besides, you're wrong. Every retail chain has massive warehouses that employ many warehouse workers. Warehouse workers also work at factories etc.

>Most warehouses are not even close to this and depend upon the labor of 1 - 2 people.
What is the point you're trying to make? Most places where things are being produced are not 100+ worker factories either. Most warehouse workers I've met were either employed at a factory

>I am sensing some hostility to the fact that modern day workers may not be industrial proletariat.
>the fact
Then what are we?

>It's easy to draw any conclusion you want though when you are allowed to cherry pick the argument of the opposition, though.
No idea what this means.

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