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 No.396888

The real is rational and the rational is real. This is one of the basic pronciples of Hegel's philosophy. But this means, the downfall of the Soviet Union was a good thing, because the system was obviously not rational and therefore it had to vanish.

Bonus question: Doesn't Hegelianism justify imperialism? I would say "Yes". What do fellow Hegelians think?
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 No.396896

The virgin wasting your life for 5 years to start from the Greeks and go up to Gaygel vs chad just sorting out that philosophy shit while lazily daydreaming once in a while over the entire lifetime
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 No.396903

I think rational would be a more suitable translation than reasonabel
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 No.396980

>>396888
>Soviet Union was a good thing,
Rational =/= good
He's just saying that whatever is happening is happening because it is obvious for it to come to be.
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 No.396992

I've never met a Hegelian who wasn't a major gaslighter.
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 No.397008

If Hegel is right and the negation of the negation is not the original, then what is your excuse for the Soviet Union to regress back into capitalism?
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 No.397016

You made a mistake. Some anons are not qualified to answer question so you can respond to me, since I am qualified. Anyways the mistake you made is turning the Soviet Union into an absolute abstract idea, essentially remove the context behind the nation and it’s collapse. The absolute idea of the nation of the Soviet Union did not exist in a vacuum but in a world with many competing ideas. So if we use the Hegelian Idea, you could say that the Soviets were not up to the task but we cannot just be Hegelians here, we have to be materialists and there was material reasons for its collapse within the context of a global Cold War, of competing ideas and economy, with one definitely trying to undermine the other.

Now you can call the ridiculous amount spent by the west to undermine the east as rational only in hindsight but such a cost was the result of what you have now, a global neoliberal hellhole returning to the principles that existed before the Soviets and before the Great Depression. The consequences of such has created the chaos we see today. But I’m a materialist and my view will have a materialist bias. I do not think that the collapse of the Soviet Union has led to a more rational world, but instead to a more chaotic one, with an ideology that had no other to compete and was forced to confront itself in its own contradictions and so now illiberalism is the only competing ideology to global liberalism. It seems to me that liberalism needs an enemy to justify its existence, and is it not irrational for liberalism to see any form of illiberalism as an enemy of it?
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 No.397017

>>397008
It didn't regress to capitalism, if only because Russia was a Tsarist autocracy before the Soviet Union.
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 No.397022

>>397017
So socialism is a step between feudalism and capitalism?
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 No.397024

>>397022
Real life isn't like a Civilization tech tree
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 No.397028

>>397024
Dialectics claims it is.
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 No.397221

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>>396888
How about I falcon punch your sister and poundfuck her while you watch you faggot hegelist
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 No.397235

>>397028
It really doesn’t. The stages described by marx and engels are descriptive for western europe and what was important was the fact that internal contradictions within system will eventually cause it to change. Never mind that the dialectical nature of the struggle entails a constant back and forth and dynamic unstable equilibrium. Capitalism wasn’t immediately instantiated by the French Revolution as a world system either, much less bourgeois parliamentarianism.
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 No.397238

>>397028
Prove it

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