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 No.396405

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 No.396407

tl; dr?
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 No.396408

Fuck off with your interview threads, /pol/.
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 No.396412

My thought is that this is basically an irritation of "muh human nature."
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 No.396414

>>396407
Not op but I can explain since I've already seen this
The first pic is explaining why socialism fails being that 1 all socialism is is a human made idea and that it needs an army of people that believe in it to function properly, also due to how workers are treated under socialism most often poorly they become unproductive as worker productivity is directly correlated to working conditions
The second pic explains what living in socialist societies is actually like, an individual citizen will perceive their economy as nonexistent, a feeling of being deprived of individual freedoms like ownership of anything and a part of something larger that they may or may not want to be apart of but cant due to how most socialist societies in history need to function
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 No.396415

>what are your thoughts on this leftypol?
>posts garbage Hegel analysis and the infamous "My dad lived in the USSR" copypasta
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 No.396416

>>396405
>Yes poor people never vote people with degrees ,they hate academic achievment forcing their daughters to become prostitutes rather than studying
t. retarded rich white american
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 No.396418

>>396405
According to this, nationalism also cannot work. In fact, we don't even live in a society.
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 No.396419

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 No.396421

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Just kek.
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 No.396422

I can’t believe people actually type this stuff out and think it is profound.
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 No.396428

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>>396405
>someone typed this shit out thinking it was profound
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 No.396431

this is the type of retards that are being "converted" here only to type the same schizo shit but pretending to be socially conservative leftists and the mods are proud of the result we see in todays leftypol
you couldn't have purposefully created a more retarded shithole than what you got now
and that is even more impressive than the spoutings of a retarded /pol/ack itself
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 No.396433

>>396431
what the hell are you talking about? most of these people you're complaining about are /pol/yp raiders.
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 No.396437

First image:
>let me show you how communism won't work
>first assume that marx is wrong
Second image:
>This is what americans actually believe
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 No.396441

>>396433
from "epic conversion" to "we're being raided (but wont ban)", new hights of cope have been achieved in this post
congrats retard
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 No.396446

>>396441
Sorry who is being converted?
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 No.396447

>>396441
i'm not a janitor, anon. this isn't reddit, we are on a tiny niche imageboard with few users - calling these retards out is your duty if you see it.
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 No.396453

>>396446
anon probably thought "bunkerchan is deradicalizing rightoids!" was a real article. it's strange how that article dropped right before the re-merging, and the quality of the board has plumetted since we have this "Official Deradicalization Communism" mark on our backs that draws in more dedicated rightoid trolls even than poljaks ever could have.
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 No.396501

>>396405
what never reading socialism utopic and scientific does to a mf
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 No.396505

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 No.396507

>>396437
Accurate take
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 No.396514

>>396505
/pol/ack talking about others pills when he refuses his schizo medication
hilarious
>>396447
the only thing you do is call them "one of us" and excuse it as "anti idpol" because you faggots are just that fucking desperate for traffic
go eat a load of shit you brownpilled third position sympathetic cunt
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 No.396524

>>396514
Are you a scarred stupidpol refugee or something? There are always butthurt rightoids on leftypol, the difference between here and someplace like stupidpol is that most rightoids can't resist the fruits of actual anonymity and sperg out against leftists with their true beliefs instead of the faux concern and support they show on stupidpol. So push back.
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 No.396529

Number two is correct. Communism will not be achieved until the last yuppie is hung from the intestines of the last suburbanite (in minecraft).
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 No.396540

>>396405
>socialism is impossible because all the fictitious money is locked up in swiss bank accounts
>the bourgs can take all the farms and factories and everything that produces all the products people need to survive out of the country with them
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 No.396542

Do people really think dialectic is just thesis-antithesis ->synthesis?
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 No.396544

>>396529
Said the self-hating suburbanite
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 No.396548

>>396542
Yes. This is what Voosh believes as well.
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 No.396561

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Ah the famous 'Commissar Jamal' pasta never gets old.
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 No.396563

>>396544
>Regards, terrified misanthropic PMC that might have to take a train

All your achievements are based on luck.
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 No.396568

>>396563
More like a disabled NEET who lives in an area that doesn't even have a fucking sidewalk for a wheelchair to roll on.
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 No.396580

>You will be allowed to have 1 room, 1 bed and necessary personal belongings. Everything else in the house will be shared.
that's usually how things play out when you don't live alone, at least in Europe, is it really that different in America?
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 No.396589

Glory to the immortal science of Jamalism-Cletusism!
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 No.396600

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So, the second one isn't even worth responding to (even though we already had a response to that) because of "my dad works at nintendo"-tier bait and the obvious "cumism is when welth redristrubtion kek" strawman. The first one, although it looks somewhat genuine at first, completely falls apart IF you even have read ONE book of either Marx or Engels. Because he mentions the manifesto, I am assuming out of goodwill, that he has atleast read it once, although I have my doubts about that too because the "each according to his ability…. quote is quite popular among conservatives who love to take it out of context and building strawmans around it because they know that's the only way they can look somewhat educated on that subject. Now, i am only gonna mention the highlights of this masterpiece of idiocy because the rest is essentially filler that could have been written by the GPT-2 bot (not the newer one because that would give him too much credit).
>…without a free market to signal the value of goods…
just regular Austrian autism, not worth responding to
>Men are motivated to work more when they're rewarded for more effort.
only someone who has never read Marx would think that he would disagree here (although he would use a different wording here) i know that he talked about this specifically at one point but I don't care about it that much to actually look it up
>This is what happens in Communist systems: …..yada yada yada… which goes, "You pretend to pay me, and I pretend to work."
not too familiar with the soviet system in that regard but I do know that you got paid more (or got other incentives) if you have done more work, quite simple really, so more of a strawman
>Communism is only an idea and can't be implemented because of being one
first: he is contradicting himself, considering he used the Soviet Union as an example of a "Communist system"
secondly: ideas stop being "just ideas" once they get implemented
thirdly: there also exists an "ideal" version of capitalism which doesn't exist in the real world but that doesn't mean that capitalism doesn't exist (although some ancaps and libertarians argue exactly that) we have to remember that ideas and those ideals stemming from them always "deviate" from the real thing like how for example a production car always will look different than the concept car it is based on
Ok, so the rest is just bait at this point, like comparing Hegel to Jesus, calling a Marx a prophet who had an inner voice that "imparted to him" (spooky) and the biggest strawman of Marx by liberals and socdems alike: Historical Determism (Marx also specifically argued against this "hogwash" as he would call it)
Also calling "Dialectic Materialism" a "comsic force" instead of just another way to look at the world is quite, you know, quite something funny about it ngl.
Overall i would conclude that age of the author of this post is 15, higher than that I don't want to imagine.
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 No.396623

>>396600
>Also calling "Dialectic Materialism" a "comsic force" instead of just another way to look at the world is quite, you know, quite something funny about it ngl.
I have witnessed more and more rightoids on 4chan bring up "Dialectical Materialism" as some kind of communist version of the Holy Spirit. I don't know where that came from, maybe some rightoid youtuber skimmed through the wikipedia article of "Marxism" and found out it and started using it to appear knowledgeable.
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 No.396629

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What are you thoughts on this OP?
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 No.396635

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 No.396653

>Commissar Jamal and Cletus

Always makes me laugh. Sage because dumbass
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 No.396659

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 No.396666

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Commissar Jamal and Comrade Cletus
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 No.396668

>>396666
Based quads
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 No.396687

>Russian here. I was born in USSR.

March 2012 post date.
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 No.396691

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 No.396718

>>396405
>he thinks proto communism isn't a thing
Retard.
>he thinks marxism is a religion
Even more retarded
2nd pic is a faggot and his mother is a prostitute. Fucking bourgeois college faggot thinks he can dictate what the proles think and what people communists are. Clearly some cuckservative petite bourg fag.
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 No.396737

It's interesting how /pol/ assumes we're homeowners in nice middle class gated communities and not basically Commissars Jamal and Cletus.
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 No.396844

>>396659
>arguments for why dialectical materialism's wrong
that's not how burden of proof works
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 No.396859

>>396405
>You can't define individual needs without a free market
stopped reading
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 No.396862

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/pol/yps are so fucking dumb, I bet those two guys think that they're great intellectuals.
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 No.397142

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>>396415
>>396416
>>396529
>>396561
>>396580
>>396589
>>396600
>>396653
>>396666
>>396687
>>396718
>>396737
1st pic is nonsense, but the second does have historical weight to it. After any sort of unrest that threatens Bourgeoisie power, the bourgeoisie will leave the country and take the wealth and means of production with them. The Revolutionaries are will be faced with an impoverished country and proceed to confiscate the wealth of the professional proletarians (doctors, lawyers, medical workers, etc.) Eventually, the party members start to attack each other. Because of Capital's ability to move quickly, limited, localized revolutions inevitable end up targeting the proletariat.

The screecap is pretty low-quality tho. and he could really impove his vocabulary.
>commietards
>Bourjois (he's Russian so he might be misspelling)
>hahs
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 No.397148

>>397142
Shut the fuck up, nobody likes you or is interested in what you have to say.
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 No.397158

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>>396405
>Wealth redistribution
>Communists are muh hipster college kids with ipods
>Commissars gunna collectivize your toothbrush!!!
haven't seen this one in a long time but made me kek
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 No.397165

>>396405
1. These pics have been debunked dozens of times. There are multiple counter screencaps around.
2. Not like they need much debunking since these fags are claiming thing after another without evidence, and they got some basic things wrong, like his shitty explanation of dialectics or classes.
3. There's nothing funnier than someone acting smug while being completely wrong about the subject he's trying to explain.
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 No.397172

>>397142
You have never read history and understand economics even less.
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 No.397269

>Let's take the focal point of the manifesto - each according to his ability, each according to his need.
That phrase appears nowhere in the communist manifesto. (There is also no similar phrase in it. I didn't just ctrl-f, I really did read the whole thing.) You can look yourself: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/index.htm

The anon gives Russia as an example for what he considers communism. He claims that the Russians had all the same income which is factually wrong. Neither the Russians nor the Chinese nor Cuba nor North Korea ever had a single month with equalized incomes. Right after saying that the Russians had communism he contradicts himself by saying that communism can't ever possibly exist.

Would Marx approve of everybody having the same income, whether they work a lot or a little bit or not at all? Given that Marx did not even oppose child labor in general, just some very abusive forms of it, I find this rather hard to believe. Equal income does not follow logically from the idea of performance-based distribution, nor does it follow logically from the idea of needs-based distribution, nor is it the outcome of any blend of these two ideas in some specific proportion.

The anon makes up a position Marx did not hold, makes up a policy the USSR never followed, and contradicts himself.
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 No.397288

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What are your thoughts on this OP?
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 No.397401

>>397288
Hitler was ok
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 No.397403

>obviously shows Fitche's dialectic

"omg anons this is hegelian dialectics!!!"
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 No.397410

>>396405
using "thesis" and "antithesis" is itself a huge a vulgarization of hegelian dialectics and something marx doesn't even come close to.

my thoughts are i'm not reading any of that dumbass copypasta.
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 No.397422

>>397288
cool gmod map
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 No.397465

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>just lemme put all of those means of production in my pockets and zip outta here real quick
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 No.398263

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 No.398282

>>396844
You would have a point if there wasn't tons of proof of Dialectical Materialism. Read Marx.
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 No.398287

>>397142
>the bourgeois will take their factories with them
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 No.398374

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Debunk THIS, leftycucks!
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 No.398489

>>398374
that's some serious dedication for a yo mama joke
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 No.398491

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>>398374
did not expect that ending

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