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 No.396247

Who would you say are the most 'accessible' leftist figures? Like if you asked the average worker about them they would say "Yeah I agree with their beliefs".
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 No.396249

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depends on the country, for Poland it'd probably be Gierek
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 No.396250

Probably Jimmy "arm the poor" Dore.
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 No.396253

Make a political compass where one axis is basedness or radicalness and the other is accessibility.
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 No.396255

Salvador Allende
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 No.396392

Obama probably, he got me and millions of others closer to trotskyism. Love that socialist dude.
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 No.396403

Zizek
Woodie Guthrie (burgers only)
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 No.396409

Zizek
Che
Nasser
Marx
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 No.396423

>>396250
Jimmy is the Lenin of the 21st century. He already has a huge following. He could overthrow the government with his fans.
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 No.396435

>>396255
*disarms the workers*
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 No.396510

>>396247
pic related
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 No.396614

Me.
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 No.396616

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 No.396617

>>396250
>leftist
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 No.396618

>>396616
OP asked for leftists.
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 No.396619

>>396510
Yeah, Yezhov has been pretty influential.
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 No.396621

>>396255
This guy was so authoritarian that Chilean leftists would rather have Pinochet in charge than him.
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 No.396631

>>396250
>>396423
Jimmy Dore is a hack and an opportunist who reees at AOC for not holding a symbolic vote on MFA, while simultaneously licking Tulsi Gabbard's feet despite her outright abandonment of the same policy. The only difference between these politicians that Dore cares about is that one appeared on his show, and the other didn't. He's no Lenin; at best, he's Trotsky, except Trotsky had actual useful skills as a tactician and commander.
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 No.396636

>>396621
That's retarded, and so are you. Allende was a soft-hearted man who was unwilling to militarize the left in Chile, which allowed Pinochet to seize power & rape women with dogs/throw living communists out of helicopters.
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 No.396643

>>396621
who are you and why do you keep making shit bait posts with my flag

stop it or i will
1. call my lawyers
2. break your nose in a mirror
3. call your lawyers and tell them to fucking sue me if they care so much
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 No.396645

at least when i make bait posts they're good, such as that insofar as Allende disarmed workers it was a good thing and not doing so wouldn't have saved him.
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 No.396647

>>396621
This succdem guy is a troll AI algorithm or a glowie, he literally goes to every thread posting his bullshit.
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 No.396648

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These two
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 No.396658

>>396249
WIELKA PŁYTA GANG
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 No.396729

>>396631
>Jimmy Dore is a hack and an opportunist who reees at AOC for not holding a symbolic vote on MFA
It wasn't symbolic because it was never about the vote, but about revealing whether the Squad would ever try to use the leverage to get some concessions, and now we know they never will. AOC abondoned the platform she ran on and betrayed her own party, the DSA. This was also a once-in-a-decade type of opportunity, because Pelosi needed the vote of the Squat. Same with the COVID bills, which had to be passed immediately, where they also did nothing. Electoral politics have limits, by they are not even going even close to the limits.
>while simultaneously licking Tulsi Gabbard's feet despite her outright abandonment of the same policy.
He stopped shilling for Tulsi once she dropped and and endorsed Biden, and he even yelled at her once after that. By the way, Tulsi's proposal of an extensive public option is still something Biden won't give you, and the Squat is complicit to a large degree.
>The only difference between these politicians that Dore cares about is that one appeared on his show, and the other didn't.
It's a tell whether someone actually goes on shows where they get criticized from the left (which do not exist in America outside the internet) - AOC notoriously only goes on shows where they suck up to her. Even Ro Khanna had bigger balls twice and appeared on Jimmy Dore where Jimmy threw hardballs at him.
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 No.396731

>>396616
bernie isn't a leftist
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 No.396734

Jimmy Dore is at least willing to defend Cuba when everyone else shits on them.
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 No.396736

>>396734
>defending cuba
late socialist shithole
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 No.396739

Jimmy Dore is not a leftist. He's (somewhat) useful, but you're going to learn fuckall about leftism from him.
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 No.396740

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Obvious answer.
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 No.396742

>>396734
>everyone else shits on them
Who is everyone else?
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 No.396745

>>396736
KYS CIA, Cuba is our last stronghold, if Cuba collapses capitalism will survive another 50 years or so.

Also LatAm will be completely fucked because they/we will experience the most grotesque expansion of extreme neoliberalism ever imagined.
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 No.396747

>>396745
Cuba is a tiny drop in the bucket against the world capitalist system, whether it practices real socialism or not only changes the lives of Cubans.
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 No.396750

>>396745
>Cuba is our last stronghold
our stronghold is a country expanding their private sector? wew

>Cuba collapses capitalism will survive another 50 years or so

cuba doesn't seem to threaten global capitalism regardless

>Also LatAm will be completely fucked because they/we will experience the most grotesque expansion of extreme neoliberalism ever imagined.

how does Cuba some how stand in the way of this?
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 No.396764

>>396750
>our stronghold is a country expanding their private sector?
There's no cuban Walmart, "private sector" means small barbershops, restaurants with 5 employees and small self-owned shops

>cuba doesn't seem to threaten global capitalism regardless

The fact that an alternative exists is threatening enough, also if Cuba collapses the US capitalists will have a new market to keep them alive for a very long time.

>how does Cuba some how stand in the way of this?

Cuba has been supporting left wing governments in LatAm for decades, if Cuba fails, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Nicaragua's governments won't last a week, also the left will lose the anti-imperialist governments of Mexico, Argentina and the leftist parties will lose the Chilean and Brazilian elections.

A complete collapse of leftist movements around the hemisphere.
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 No.396772

Huey Long is a social fascist, not a leftist

As for “accessibility”, that’s not the point. The point is which theorists and leaders were right, and history has proven that list to be Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. Socialism is not a commodity to be marketed to the masses, when the revolution comes their opinions won’t really matter as we’ll be the only option
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 No.396786

>>396764
>There's no cuban Walmart, "private sector" means small barbershops, restaurants with 5 employees and small self-owned shops
you're saying this as if its a counter but you're just reiterating my point

>The fact that an alternative exists is threatening enough

this is true why?
>also if Cuba collapses the US capitalists will have a new market to keep them alive for a very long time.
doesn't really have anything to do with the point you're replying to
anyways like I said: cuba doesn't seem to threaten global capitalism

>Cuba has been supporting left wing governments in LatAm for decades

which ones? how has that been working out for them?

>if Cuba fails, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Nicaragua's governments won't last a week

this is suppose to be a bad thing?

>also the left will lose the anti-imperialist governments of Mexico, Argentina and the leftist parties will lose the Chilean and Brazilian elections

mexico is "anti imperialist"?
what does that even mean for the left today?
it sounds like a bunch of cute rhetoric with no real substance

>A complete collapse of leftist movements around the hemisphere.

implying there are any
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 No.396787

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>>396247

While I definitely think that he has jumped the shark recently, I think that Noam Chomsky is pretty good and has a wide appeal.
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 No.396792

>>396787
With that said, ideology is not a popularity contest. Ideas shouldn't be adopted bcs they're popular, but because they're good.
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 No.396793

>>396786
>if Cuba fails, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Nicaragua's governments won't last a week
this is suppose to be a bad thing?

Lib spotted
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 No.396794

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 No.396795

>>396793
cope
those aren't even socialist countries retard.
why is answering the question so hard for you
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 No.396799

>>396786
>this is suppose to be a bad thing?
You don't even care about all of this obviously, so why you would even try understand if I explained it to you?

I'm not giving you a class CIA.
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 No.396801

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The best people to use in America are Eugene Debs and William Z Foster, tbh.
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 No.396805

>>396799
>You don't even care about all of this obviously, so why you would even try understand if I explained it to you?
are you always this dismissive on questions you can't answer?
or is the point your making just difficult to defend?
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 No.396809

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>>396786
>mexico is "anti imperialist"?
Yes
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 No.396811

>>396250
>WOOOHH DOOD JUST CONSOOOM DIS ECELEBS TALK SHOW
>HE REDPIL DA NORMIEZ
>ORGANIZING? FUCK THAT, CONSOOM CULTUR
>WEN CULTOOR VIEWERS OVER 5MIL VI VON
>REAL LIFE? ARE YOU A BOOMER??!??!? CONSOOM TALKING HEAD NAOW!!!!!
Fuck Dore, Fuck AOC, Fuck Maupin, Fuck Breadtube, Fuck Beardtube, Fuck reddit, Fuck Twitter, Fuck imageboards. Revolution ONLY can and WILL come from a critical mass of people interacting, exchanging their lived experiance and forming new bonds forged from their mutually felt oppression. Any other approach makes you a synthetic leftist like all the failures ever since the hippies that try to brew out a movement from cultural farts. Watch Cushvlogs, then stop watching Cushvlogs and start organising IRL by going out to the people and delivering them the goods they need. Either that, or fuck off from the left because it is clear that for you it is nothing else than a tool of self expression while trying to lie to yourself that you are doing something useful.
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 No.396815

>>396809
sending aid to cuba is the standard for anti imperialism these days?
I thought you'd have something more substantial like blocking foreign powers from expanding into SA or something
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 No.396820

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 No.396822

>>396815
>Being anti-imperialist is asking for an open war against the US that they cannot win.
Weak argument glowie.
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 No.396827

>>396822
didn't make an argument though try harder pol
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 No.396837

>>396647
Socdem anon, at least the resident one, is the single most funny and based anon on the board. His jokes are always unique and mostly out of bounds of imageboard culture while still being eddgy. As for his takes, whenever he is actually serious, he has the best position out of every other ideology-scared dipshit on the board. It is simple - the left should go out and "deliver the goods". Not shit around all day debating the validity of Stalin, not engaging in a retarded maritz vs planning war, not fighting over if anarkids are good or bad, or whatever the hell else.
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 No.396848

>>396837
Yep, he's very cool. But I would say that cause I usually agree with him.
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 No.396851

>>396837
the succdem posters here are usually pretty decent.
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 No.396872

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best revolutionary of the 20th century
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 No.396907

>>396255
There is certain admiration for Allende among the general chilean left, but his views and policies are seen as "extreme left" nowadays, so much that the only org that openly supports nationalization of natural resources is a tiny ML sect.
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 No.396929

hampton or debs if in burgerstan
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 No.397427

>>396772
Do you honestly think Stalin is liked by the average person
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 No.397444

>>396618
>>396731
He's the most left-wing figure in America that the average American has heard of. Nobody knows who the fuck William Z. Foster or Gloria La Riva are.
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 No.397540

>>397444
>He's the most left-wing figure in America that the average American has heard of
no he's the most liberal figure who misuses the word socialism
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 No.397566

>>396740
The only correct choice
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 No.397567

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>>396772
>when the revolution comes their opinions won’t really matter as we’ll be the only option
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 No.401071

>>396249
chcesz cukierka? idz do gierka
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 No.401100

for latinamerica prolly someone like che guevara
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 No.401107

>>396809
kinda yeah
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 No.401112

>>396809
Great alternative to burgerland
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 No.401115

>>396247
can he even be considered a leftist? i think of him more like a right wing laborist like vargas and peron
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 No.401121

I mean I guess if you explained the ideas of most revolutionaries to the common worker they would agree too even if they had never heard of the guy before (prolly better if they havent since any well known revolutionary has been demonized)
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 No.401200

>>396729
>and he even yelled at her after that
Sauce?
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 No.401202

>>396734
Yeah, fucking this. Why do I give a shit about whether someone calls himself a "SocDem" or a "socialist" or what ever, when they are shitting on Cuba. Actions is where it matters.
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 No.401214

>>396648
>informant hack with a cozy academic position telling people to vote for Clinton
Nice, get people into that radical-to-Dem pipeline.

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