/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

I'd remove OP

Muhammed and Mao

>>396030
I mean people alive at the moment

I should have specified

>>396033
Hmmmmmmmm
Erdoğan and Modi

I'm just gonna stick with 20th century figures because I'm too much of a brainlet to figure out who would be ideal to remove before then.

>Henry Kissinger
Pretty self explanatory. Arguably the most effective architect of imperialism in human history, responsible for the deaths of millions of communists and communist sympathizers, almost single-handedly destroyed dozens of national liberation opportunities, etc. He was a uniquely evil AND a uniquely competent capitalist statesman. Any replacement wouldn't have been nearly as capable of doing the amount of damage he did to the world.

>Friedrich Ebert
Crushed the German communist uprising; is largely to blame for the fact that we are not currently living in a communist utopia. Other SPD figures would likely have done the same in his place, but perhaps not as effectively.

>>396033
Fuck. In that case, I think it doesn't really make a difference 'cause we're fucked no matter what.

>>396026
fpbp

Gorbachev and Trotsky.

>Alive

Jeff Bezos and Marco Rubio.

Stalin and Trotsky

My parents

>Stephen Goodson
Shit author who like most right-wing fags, will claim to be against banking, but then stan for Hitler in his privatizing of the three major publicly owned banks of Germany, and effectively allowing them to operate exactly like a privately owned central bank, and not a national bank.

>>396020
Hitler and Lenin

Dumb op is dumb. Removing a person holding an office or a position just removes the person and another candidate comes along soon enough.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb

>>396074
>Trotsky
congrats, the whites have won the civil war

I find murder immortal, and thus would not kill anyone.

I’d delete GMT from peoples brains for threads like this don’t exist.

>>399854
>immortal
sweet

>>396085
Best answer ITT

>>396116
Hitler was Dengist

>>396151
Historical materialism is "there was bound to be a communist revolution in Russia", not "the communist revolution in Russia in 1917 was bound to succeed regardless of who its leaders were."

You don't understand the "great man" criticism and need to stop using it.

>>400002
meant to respond to: >>396152

>>400584
1) Marx did talk about how Russia could have a Revolution w/o having to go directly to the bourgeois phase
2) Just because Russia was an underdeveloped backwater doesn’t mean that Capital wasn’t an entrenched phenomenon at the global level. It’s not like Civ 5, where each country has to go through all the stages in isolation.
3) The stages themselves are a descriptive phenomenon, not a prescriptive one, and both Marx and Engels cautioned against using it as a lazy way to avoid understanding history.

I don't belive in great man theory but
Xi and Macron

>>400606
And what, pray tell, is the contradiction?

>>400616
The contradiction, gimme the cliffnotes.

1. Wilks Booth because duh
2. Charles Darwin for historic justace to Alfred Russel Wallace

>>400616
>>400648
So are you gonna tell me the contradiction or are you just gonna pretend you read all three volumes of capital?

>>396020
1. Trump (worse than hitler)
2. hitler

>>396020
Initially I'd be overwhelmed by the responsibility and frantically seek to educate myself before deciding. I'd come to appreciate the strange imposition that now demands I dedicate my life to it.
Every waking moment must be dedicated to the crushing task of preparing for that final decision. A decision that I'd never get to enjoy or suffer because… The universe has imposed upon me a task so much bigger than myself that every moment it's not attended is a moment squandered. Therefore I must live every moment in dedication to the task and preservation of myself lest I die before formulating an answer.

I'd wonder if it even matters for my timeline. How would I know it came into effect? Would I, after a life of study I'd be left wondering if it wasn't all a delusion?

Then, I'd be consumed by the possibility of inadvertently erasing myself from history or altering my development so badly that the person I am changes completely. Would I, the new me, then make a different decision further altering history for the next loop? Surely the only way to prevent recursion is that whatever decision is made, erases myself from the future.

Why would I be chosen for this? It makes no sense! Is my suffering the point!?

Ultimately, a few years in , on a clear night I'd forgo my confinement and find a place to watch the skies. I'd stare the universe in it's cold blazing eyes and choose my own two parents.

Fuck your task! Fuck your game! And fuck you rules!

I CHOOSE OBLIVION

>>400584
>They never seemed to notice this and neither have most marxists.
Are you joking? This was one of the key debates between the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks and is also the entire basis of Trotsky's Permanent Revolution theory. This was unironically one of the most important and substantive debates of 20th century Marxism.

>>402557
In fact, the Politburo's insistence on "two-stage" revolutionary theory, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary (including in their own fucking home country) was Trotsky's second biggest criticism of Stalin, after Socialism in One Country. I'm genuinely baffled that you think this is something that doesn't come up in Marxist circles; Marxists of a million different tendencies have made this observation and their conclusions have ranged from "The October Revolution was a bourgeois revolution from the start" (leftcoms) to "Marx was wrong about the peasants altogether and an industrial working class is not required for communist revolution" (Maoists).