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 No.394534

If I am a short, ugly, mildly deformed genetic piece of shit incel, what does socialism have to offer me? Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a classless society, the liquidation of the commodity form, shorter work weeks and better work conditions, but if at the end of the day I'm still gonna remain a genetic dead end virgin, why should I bother? Why shouldn't I just kill myself if I'll still be dumb and ugly under a communist society?
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 No.394542

There will be no hypergamy
Also, by increased support for science, you will get better bioengineering
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 No.394547

First, I would say that you don’t sound very dumb from the way you’re writing. Second, socialism will give you a career and purpose in life. It will allow you to develop as a person, develop your social skills and your personality, to become a better person and address some of the flaws you might see in yourself now. All of this will make make you a more attractive and confident person. Women will fall in your lap.
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 No.394549

>at the end of the day I'm still gonna remain a genetic dead end virgin, why should I bother?
Maybe so that you don’t have to work 40 hours per week just to avoid starvation and you die in a climate change apocalypse? Seriously dude, there’s much more important things in life than pussy.
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 No.394554

>>394542
Perhaps for fetuses that are still developing. The only cure for my genes is a blowing out my brain stem or OD'ing on heroin. I'll never be tall, get my foreskin back, by attractive, or particularly intelligent. I'm asking why I should raise up the hammer and sickle when I can raise up a loaded rifle and free myself from this?
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 No.394557

>>394554

You came here for people to tell you not to do yourself in. This is what is commonly called "fishing" and is a social faux pas
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 No.394565

>>394547
>>394549
I don't want to develop myself or work even a single hour a week if I'm still gonna be stuck in this body.
>>394557
Wrong. I came here asking why I should bother to keep being a socialist and try organizing when I hate myself and would rather just be dead.
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 No.394570

I agree that you should off yourself. We have no need for losers who are so weak willed. And this isn’t about ignoring depression, this is about acknowledging you have a problem and knowing you need help to get better. You’re the type of pathetic alcoholic who nobody likes because they don’t want to get better, they just want others to pity them. You’ll get no pity from me faggot.
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 No.394578

>>394554
>I don't want to develop myself or work even a single hour a week if I'm still gonna be stuck in this body.
Did you ever heard transhumanism? Many of people are already changing their bodies with surgery
Also pussy is not everything. There will be sexbots or love-simulations in future. At worst, there will be sex-workers; which is enough. Sex is only for pussy.
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 No.394579

>>394570
Why are you faggots like this? I don't want nor need help. No amount of psychotherapy is gonna fix me or my body. I just want to know why I should try to keep participating when I'll just still be shit at the end of it. I should off myself, eh?
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 No.394580

>>394570
People can become delusional when they are depressed though.
Don't be rude
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 No.394582

Forget a gf, do you even have friends? Do you want them?

I know people who’ve fucked more folks than they can count on a single hand and they STILL are miserable. They STILL feel like they haven’t done it enough and everyone else is pulling much more tail. Because guess what? It turns out quality>quantity.

It’s probably not that you’re unattractive. It’s that you hate yourself and that’s kryptonite to attractiveness. You hate yourself and you don’t know how to change.
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 No.394589

>>394579
>No amount of psychotherapy is gonna fix me or my body.
İf your problem is only with your body, then you should know that there is also ugly but bright girls too.
You can have better living-stansarts. Most of the people in the world is under the standarts and at the end we all fucking idiots. Don't be harsh to yourself
You would get better health, hobbies and social-life. You can change your body in future Via Technology
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 No.394594

>>394578
>sexbots
I can't think of a greater technological alienating hell than that. Will socialism at least give me the ability to just have a doctor euthanize me peacefully?
>>394580
I consider myself self-aware, not depressed.
>>394582
I do have friends I love very much. I'm not worried about just getting pussy. I don't even care about that very much. I just want to be a good, tall, attractive person. I want to have good genes and be smart. I suppose I can never get that though, so the logical answer obviously is suicide.
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 No.394596

>>394565
>I don't want to develop myself or work even a single hour a week if I'm still gonna be stuck in this body.
You have to work with what you have, you have to begin from reality. Socialism can give you the means to improve your situation, but it can’t will into existence switching your body. Perhaps future technological advances will open up those avenues.
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 No.394600

>>394579
>no amount of psychotherapy
I bet you’ve never even tried it faggot. Cry yourself to sleep and waddle in your own pathetic filth.
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 No.394605

>>394580
No they deserve to be bullied. My point was proven when they started bitching about not wanting help. There are people who are less fortunate than they who have gotten help and have a better attitude than this faggot. He just wants attention.
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 No.394606

>>394594
>. I just want to be a good, tall, attractive person. I want to have good genes and be smart. I suppose I can never get that though, so the logical answer obviously is suicide.
We have similar person called Eugenics-Kun, we need hım now i guess.
I think you stucked in lookism obsession.
No one is perfect anon. Don't be harsh to yourself
Most good looking people are dumb and most bright people are ugly. Expections are few but they are overrepresented
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 No.394610

>>394605
No, he just asks what socialism could do for his problems?
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 No.394612

>>394589
>>394596
But I can just die and be free from this shit. Bioengineering is still so far off, and it won't effect me by the time it's readily available.
>>394600
I've tried therapy and antidepressants. The SSRIs just make me foggy and feel worse. Therapy just feels like a massive cope.
Will euthanasia be available under Marxism-Leninism?
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 No.394620

>>394612
Get a hobby. There are a lot of disabled people like you
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 No.394634

>>394606
Eugenics is one of the few right wing ideas I actually agree with. Of course the societies that historically practiced it were infected largely with rightist idpol and racialist thought, which lead to not selecting for best traits possible but just retarded "jews/blacks/other minorities bad". I think only a socialist society can actually practice real eugenics.
>>394620
I've gotten into many hobbies like gun shooting, weight lifting, and reading. They all feel aimless if I'm not gonna better myself. I just want euthanasia. I wish I could walk into a clinic, jump through the hoops, and let a doctor put me to sleep.
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 No.394645

>>394634
Well, he is also disabled and very anti-eugenicist
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 No.394655

>>394645
I see the criticism of eugenics being used for politically nefarious, specifically racist, policies. But what is wrong with socialist eugenics? What is wrong with the concept in of itself?
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 No.394688

Be prepared, the people here will unironically say that in “socialism” eugenics will be enforced and ugly people will be liquidated
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 No.394696

>>394600
Therapy is unironically eugenics and should be outright abolished
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 No.394715

>>394696
Touch grass and do sex
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 No.394719

>>394696
Eugenics should exist to prevent people like me from existing. Hypergamy itself is a kind of natural eugenics.
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 No.394722

We are now approaching a social revolution in which the economic foundations of monogamy as they have existed hitherto will disappear just as surely as those of its complement-prostitution. Monogamy arose from the concentration of considerable wealth in the hands of a single individual – a man – and from the need to bequeath this wealth to the children of that man and of no other. For this purpose, the monogamy of the woman was required, not that of the man, so this monogamy of the woman did not in any way interfere with open or concealed polygamy on the part of the man. But by transforming by far the greater portion, at any rate, of permanent, heritable wealth – the means of production – into social property, the coming social revolution will reduce to a minimum all this anxiety about bequeathing and inheriting. Having arisen from economic causes, will monogamy then disappear when these causes disappear?

One might answer, not without reason: far from disappearing, it will, on the contrary, be realized completely. For with the transformation of the means of production into social property there will disappear also wage-labor, the proletariat, and therefore the necessity for a certain – statistically calculable – number of women to surrender themselves for money. Prostitution disappears; monogamy, instead of collapsing, at last becomes a reality – also for men.

In any case, therefore, the position of men will be very much altered. But the position of women, of all women, also undergoes significant change. With the transfer of the means of production into common ownership, the single family ceases to be the economic unit of society. Private housekeeping is transformed into a social industry. The care and education of the children becomes a public affair; society looks after all children alike, whether they are legitimate or not. This removes all the anxiety about the “consequences,” which today is the most essential social – moral as well as economic – factor that prevents a girl from giving herself completely to the man she loves. Will not that suffice to bring about the gradual growth of unconstrained sexual intercourse and with it a more tolerant public opinion in regard to a maiden’s honor and a woman’s shame? And, finally, have we not seen that in the modern world monogamy and prostitution are indeed contradictions, but inseparable contradictions, poles of the same state of society? Can prostitution disappear without dragging monogamy with it into the abyss?

Engels, Friedrich. Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State; Chapter II.4.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/ch02d.htm
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 No.394729

>>394606
Eugenics kun is a faggot, I wish he stayed in (redacted)’s discord
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 No.394734

Yo, I have the feeling that you have some sort of body dismorphia. Its not normal to hate your body to this suicidal extent just because it doesnt hold up to your own standards.

If the chance at a life in a truly utopian society doesnt sound liveable just because of your body issues, you are in a spiral of hateful thinking and self reinforcement which you need to break asap.

Your problem is clearly psychological. You need to go back to therapy.
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 No.394735

>>394715
I want you to go to a prison full of convicted sex offenders and murderers and tell me if the ability to easily get women is remotely related to being mentally healthy or morally upright

And therapy is obviously eugenicist to the core, first off it is an interaction mediated by money, i.e. alienated as fuck, secondly it’s sole purpose is to make you a better wagie
>>394719
Eugenics is fucking horse shite, “muh good genes muh bad genes” isn’t real, natural selection doesn’t work the way you think it does
The things our society values in men is fucking sickening, doesn’t mean that’s all that we are
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 No.394736

>>394734
It isn’t about hating his body, it is about soul crushing loneliness, some alienated interaction mediated by money will not cure his loneliness
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 No.394752

>>394736
didn't he say he has friends he loves very much? I dont think its about loneliness

Look I get your point, but I dont think this guy is the typical incel. the way he is describing his problems sounds a lot more like what you would hear from a transhumanist forum.
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 No.394759

>If I am a short, ugly, mildly deformed genetic piece of shit incel, what does socialism have to offer me?
with that mindset, nothing
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 No.394763

>he unironically believes in genes
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 No.394766

>>394763
Go be retarded somewhere else
>>394759
Mindset don’t mean shit, pure idealism
>>394752
Honestly haven’t read much of what OP has said, got the gist at the start, don’t feel like reading an entire thread of bellyaching ngl
I sympathize with his problems but for incels they’re generalized enough that I don’t have to see his life story to get a good picture
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 No.394770

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There is no hope for people like you sorry.
I won't read this inane incel whining bullshit thread but I'm sure some comrades here are trying to reason with you and you just cry because your pee pee can't get into a pussy.

A socialist society will institutionalize you first and try to reform your retarded broken incel brain with whatever medicine offers at the moment. Most likely a combination of drugs and electrical stimulation to the brain.
If you are so brainrotten you can't be reformed you'll be disposed of by just shooting you in the god damn head with a single bullet or using one of those nail guns butchers use to stun pigs then turned into plant food so your worthless incel body can at least be used for something
Your kin (whining incel faggots) usually turn violent and that can't be allowed to happen
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 No.394771

>>394534
The state won't get you a gf.
But the state may provide you with digital waifus and dakis, that should be enough.
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 No.394785

>>394770
uygha you talk tough but have you ever been in a single fight? Have you ever won a fight?
Sick of all these suburbanite faggots pretending to tough talking about what “we” will do
No uygha you won’t do shit, other people will do things, and maybe they don’t agree with you at all
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 No.394790

>>394766
>Mindset don’t mean shit, pure idealism
you dont deserve anything either
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 No.394792

Like imagine being some pale suburban fag who hasn’t been in a fight, never lived in the hood, never held a gun, never gotten robbed or committed a crime talking about
>”We” will put a bullet in your head
Yeah real tough words online but we both know you won’t do a damn fucking thing lmao
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 No.394796

>>394790
Your words are irrelevant, the real world isn’t an anime, it doesn’t care about your willpower, women will not reward your hardwork, your mindset is irrelevant since that isn’t what attracts people even if you don’t think it is solely looks
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 No.394805

>>394534
If you live in a place that gives a shit about your time and your work, what can you contribute to society? Are you just going to bitch and moan or create something of value? Even if its to impress yourself, what are your interests?

Perhaps you're an incel because the answer is nothing? And I'm afraid that your material conditions probably caused you to be this way. But socialism offers a man real power. It will happen with you or without you regardless.
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 No.394812

>>394796
>women will not reward your hardwork
good thing I dont plan on doing much anyways
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 No.394816

Speaking of troons, why should they grab the spotlight when I can't change my body for the better? I don't want to look like a subhuman. Why is an able bodied, strong male more important?
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 No.394818

>>394816
Terrible argument, the real question is why they get more sympathy when they are basically also incels
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 No.394822

>>394734
Tell that to troons.
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 No.394831

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>>394785
>>394792
Lmao the absolute seethe of this fag. I never said the word -we- learn to read and take your meds. I would never kill an incel, thats low level grunt work somewhere dumber than me will be assigned to do.
I don't need to live in the hood or commit crime to say some people deserve to get the bullet/pig gun. We are talking about a civilized society not some gang shit where you have to be initiated first or whatever.
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 No.394838

>>394534
>If I am a short, ugly, mildly deformed genetic piece of shit incel, what does socialism have to offer me?
a quick and painless death
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 No.394840

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>>394831
>Nah man I won’t be the low level private carrying out the execution
<Actually I will be the guy giving the orders
<<Yeah that’s it, in socialism I will have political power yup
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 No.394844

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>>394838
> a quick and painless death
Yeah man
Killing people over “genetics” and because they are “inferior” is the based and socialist way
Definitely
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 No.394845

i fuckin told you all Hotwheels was a comrade
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 No.394848

/leftcel/ shill thread
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 No.394852

>>394845
He wrote an article for a Nazi site talking about eugenics lmao
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 No.394855

>>394844
Hitler killed people on the orders of the Zionists. There are far less cruel methods of ensuring genetic diversity
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 No.394857

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>>394844
Eugenics was the cope to realizing "inferior" minorities had objectively desirable traits
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 No.394858

>>394855
Galaxy brain
>Ah see the problem with Hitler is that he didn’t kill enough people/correctly determine who was inferior
The shit leftypolers will say just to “btfo” an incel, fucking hell
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 No.394862

>>394857
It’s pretty clear I’ve been the only person decrying eugenics throughout this entire thread
I do not believe in eugenics nor the notion that people are born on a sliding scale of “value” based on their genetics
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 No.394863

>>394858
I don’t care about incels, I just want people to focus on the real enemy that is liberalism rather than imaginary ones
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 No.394865

>>394858
This.
This site is as disgusting as /pol/ sometimes, I hope this is only a very loud minority.
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 No.394868

>>394855
>Zionism made Hitler do it.
Fuck yourself crypto fascist cunt.
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 No.394875

>>394852
Seven years ago in 2014.
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 No.394991

>>394534

Anon, I hate to say this but even you were taller and more attractive it would still be difficult to find a normal relationshop under capitalism. Social conditions have become terrible duch that this is a statistically increasing trend.

That said, ultimately one's dedication to cause cannot be predicated primarily on narrow individual gain. The stakes are very high, they concern our species very survival and growth. I have quoted this before to a fellow celibate, and think it is appropriate here again:

"The dearest possession of any person is life. It is given only once, and it must be lived so as to feel no torturing regrets for wasted years, never know the burning shame of a mean and petty past; so live that, dying you had a right to say: all my life, all my strength were given to the finest cause in all the world—the fight for the Liberation of Humankind." - Nikolai Ostrovsky, author, "How the Steel was Tempered."
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 No.394999

>>394991
>Anon, I hate to say this but even you were taller and more attractive it would still be difficult to find a normal relationshop under capitalism. Social conditions have become terrible duch that this is a statistically increasing trend.
Fair argument, hard to get a gf if you can’t even move out like most people who are my age
> That said, ultimately one's dedication to cause cannot be predicated primarily on narrow individual gain. The stakes are very high, they concern our species very survival and growth. I have quoted this before to a fellow celibate, and think it is appropriate here again:
Honestly any individual contribution is basically irrelevant, I think he just wants to know if his suffering would continue
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 No.395019

>>394582
>It’s probably not that you’re unattractive. It’s that you hate yourself and that’s kryptonite to attractiveness.
The vast majority of Incels (the subculture) started out "bluepilled" and tried all the normie advice to no avail. I'm not even denying that self hatred and pessimism hurts your attractiveness, but if the problem really was related to personality then Incels would be complaining about always being rejected after the first date, not being unable to get a first date in the first place.
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 No.395027

>>395019
That’s also the thing
The thing that warps all the discourse around incels is that it centers around the notion that incels started out black pilled and bitter when this obviously makes no sense; nobody is born embittered and our society while subtly black pilled is on its surface “blue pilled”
Most incels do not even WANT to believe the black pill is correct, they desperately wish the blue pill was or even that the red pill was (since most tried PUA and TRP at one point)

Thing is, these guys become black pilled when they try PUA, see that it works for attractive guys, yet fails for ugly guys; at which point they say “Ah, so it was never about being a good person nor was it about game, it was all about looks”

Is it “all” about looks? No, not necessarily, but I would say it largely is, and if people say looks get you foot in the door, well, how else do you enter the building?

And of course the reason so many also laugh at copes about “well, you just need therapy” or “well, you are just a bad person” is of course just the fact that the average convict never struggles to get laid lmao
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 No.395028

>>394999

None of us might even live to see socialism proper, that is why I responded as I did. If we think in terms individual contributions, we come squarely against a n-agent prisoner's dilemma.

Under socialism all kinds of measures can be taken to reduce loneliness, not just from lack of romantic relationship (From a common schedule leisure time, to income/work security, decent public spaces, housing that us designed to be conductive toward communitarian engagement, even better nutrion to combat obesity).

But these are all cold comfort because we don't live under socialism. We don't even have robust social democracy in many places. We live under capitalism, with all its multivaried degradations and degeneracies.
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 No.395037

>>394999
>Fair argument, hard to get a gf if you can’t even move out like most people who are my age
The sole reason I want to move out is to have a private pad to fuck. I don't want to start a family, I can't afford anything nicer than my parents' house, I just want to pay thousands of dollars a year to maybe have sex.
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 No.395046

>>395027

One can say that capitalism has made looks more important (by a number of means, including increasing cognitive burden of having to nativigate a larger and larger number of choices, a lot of them meaningless)

It has also simultaneously made accessing decent nutrition harder, especially in burgerland (qualitatively).

I honestly think though that it is likely that most people use to pair up via their social network, but that these have become increasingly eroded; Even people have friends might be on an relatively isolated node ahere everyone interacts with each othe mostly.

There was a guy called MondayFAMonday on youtube who had some good videos on this, but unfortunately he left. He even had a discussion with Big Roo about it, which I think is still up.
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 No.395133

>>395046
That is the thing, many incels believe that capitalism allows one to leverage resources to get a woman, but many are also smart enough to see that this obviously is not love or desire and is even effectively a more complicated long-term form of prostitution, hence why they deride it as “betabuxxing”
And I agree with you, I think, as capitalism has transformed people more and more into walking advertisements and status symbols, the premium on looks has only grown, and the opportunity and ability to show who you are has decreased
In socialism people will have more free time and more access to a communal existence, they can build relationships based on camaraderie and empathy with one another, and I think in this sort of society where people may not simply be status symbols (seriously, many men and women complain that the opposite sex views them as trophies to parade around their friends) the obsession with looks might lessen

Because in truth, most incels seem to be either average looking or the lower end of average, not truly ugly. And even then, tho society has always been lookist, in the past only a truly deformed person would be completely fucked.
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 No.395146

>>394844
You really are a little bitch dude lol
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 No.395148

>>395146
Yea you really are a tough guy on an imageboard right? Fucking fag
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 No.395152

>>395146
Lmao he will never recover
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 No.395155

>>395152
Can’t you go back to ranting about troons in your other threas, you middle aged mistake
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 No.395162

>>395155
Lel BTFO in every thread, and you loudly seethe anyway. SAD!
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 No.395163

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>>394734
Body dysmorphia is the unrealistic view of your body and the subsequent hate that comes with it. I have a perfectly realistic view of my body; I'm unattractive and ugly.
>>394763
Ok Lysenko.
>>394770
Why can't you just give me a large dose of barbiturates and have me die?
>>394805
I already work a full time job and contribute. I don't even care about sex. I just want to have good genes for Christ sakes. Why can't people in this thread get that?
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