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Anti-Work | How To Not Work? Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 00:59:33 No.388685

Hey lads,

I've been reading a lot of post-left anti-work and post-civ stuff lately. I've decided that my life goal is to escape wage slavery as soon as possible. I actually went ahead and put in my two weeks' notice today; unfortunately it's just to go to a slightly less shittier job—I'll still be a 9–5 drone albeit with better pay, PTO, and actually simply working 9–5/no weekends instead of 9–6 and weekends.

Anyways, how does one escape wageslavery? I've analyzed some options and they all seem unappealing to me. Here goes:

>FIRE
This option depends on hyperinflation not happening, society not collapsing, the USA economy keeping steady for a few decades, and so forth. Too risky, and you still have to waste away your youth and wageslave until your 40's while living like a miser. It's the "safe" option, but no guts, no glory?

>NEET
Not really an option because my parents won't support me. Plus, I don't want to live with my parents as an adult. Lastly, I'd rather take a more proactive approach to achieving freedom than languishing away at home.

>Illegalism
Based, but in the end it's working all the same. Being a drug dealer is like running a small business, only you have to deal dangerous customers as a bonus. Learning how to hack/fraud/etc. would take the same if not more effort than learning how to code and getting a non-illegal tech job.

Does /leftypol/ have any ideas? How the fuck do we escape slavery?

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:10:00 No.388698

what's FIRE?

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:14:21 No.388707

As an individual, you escape wage labor the same way everyone who ever escaped it did. By becoming a capitalist.

Accumulate capital by being a miser, just as the early bourgeoisie did. Buy only things you can rent out, and take opportunities for primitive accumulation whenever they present themselves.
Legal is whatever you can get away with. Do some small scale meth, MDMA, or LSD synthesis for seed capital.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:16:48 No.388715

How To Not Work?
>Option A
>have rich daddy
<Option B
<become hobo, dumpster dive

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:16:53 No.388717

Becoming a hobo if you don't mind doing away with your luxuries and comforts.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:28:12 No.388736

>>388698
Financially Independent; Retire Early

Basically, wageslave until you have enough to retire and not work anymore. You retire early by living like a miser (at the very least don't be a cons00mer, which is one should be doing already) and investing in the stock market. Won't work if the stock market crashes.

>>388707
Eh, I've thought about doing the capitalist stint but I don't think it's an escape, either. To run a successful business, you have to work even harder than a wageslave, and for what? If you fail, you're completely fucked and wasted valuable years of your life. If you're successful, you're still going to have to work like a dog to maintain your business and keep accumulating capital. If you can get to top bourgeois level like Bezos/Musk/Gates, then OK you win, but that's not going to happen.

Still, perhaps starting a side "business" as you suggested wouldn't be a bad idea…

>>388715
>>388717
Eh, there's no glory in poverty. Better to wageslave than starve on the street….

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:32:03 No.388745

>>388736
Most small business attempts fail. Where do you think the capitalist machine gets the grease for its bloody engines?

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:32:26 No.388748

In the incel sphere we have this technique called LDAR (lay down and rot)

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:37:57 No.388756

>>388745
Exactly lad. That's why it's not a good option for the average prole.

>>388748
don't want to rot, I want to live. That's the whole point of escaping wageslavery

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:42:20 No.388774

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Everyone grab your favorite snack commodity. This thread is dialectics in motion.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:43:52 No.388778

>>388685
just live in poverty lmao

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:45:08 No.388783

>>388685
are you serious dude

you dont want to work, you don't want to be poor
you don't want to labor for your wealth at all even if its ill gotten
you don't want to be given a free ride thru life even if that was an option for you

where is the room for anything here?
Like for real what kinds of answers are there left? There's no way to do no work, be beholden to no one, and just instantly retire comfortably. Your best bet is doing scammy things, e-begging, idk marrying rich, collecting on life insurance, who knows. Something really stupid and contrived. Good luck, and I mean it.

Also I'm a priest, and it couldnt hurt your search to start out by first showing the Lord a sign of good faith and helping his servant out.
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Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:47:51 No.388791

Lad your best bet is fighting alongside other people for better labor laws and eventually to abolish capitalism.
You know, the kinda thing communists and non-individualist anarchists have talked about for centuries.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 01:50:20 No.388796

>>388756
> I want to live
You need to explain what you mean with that. I live a comfy work free life but it might be what you are looking for. I married a not-so-desirable woman who I need to fuck every other day, work out, do all the house shit, cook, basically like a male maid.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:12:51 No.388839

>>388783
>marrying rich
unironically down, just need to work on my body and try to find a sugar mommy.
>I'm a priest
spooked af

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:14:02 No.388842

Find a sugar mommy

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:16:56 No.388849

>>388756
I think the incel's LDAR philosophy is a little more subtle than just literally rotting.
It's more like the cynicism of Diogenes, or Bartleby the Scrivener.

Bartleby appears to be suffering from depression, but "depression" is only an ideological lens for underlying alienation. Nobody can be motivated to do what they know is pointless indefinitely.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:17:11 No.388850

>>388791
lame LARPing and getting COINTELPRO'd ain't for me, lad. Only way capitalism and state is going to collapse is when eco collapse hits.

>>388796
>work out
>housework
>cooking
so basically what I do but "paid". Sounds extremely based lad.

>>388842
I live in suburban hell, so maybe I should open up Tinder and set the age to 30+…too bad GF is spooked by monogamism, feels bad man. Will have to do sugar mommy pursuing behind her back.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:24:49 No.388862

>>388850
>lame LARPing and getting COINTELPRO'd ain't for me, lad
>I live in suburban hell, so maybe I should open up Tinder
>too bad GF is spooked by monogamism, feels bad man. Will have to do sugar mommy pursuing behind her back.

jesus christ. You're totally owned by your fears and desires for comfort and ease. You're just a liberal. You've embraced pure liberal ideology instead of anything new, radical, or beyond leftism.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:26:35 No.388864

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>Labour is the source of all wealth, the political economists assert. And it really is the source – next to nature, which supplies it with the material that it converts into wealth. But it is even infinitely more than this. It is the prime basic condition for all human existence, and this to such an extent that, in a sense, we have to say that labour created man himself.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:27:27 No.388868

>>388862
Alright mr. chad hobo man, what do you do for a living? If you're also a worker, then you have no place to speak.

>>388864
fuck off spooked work cultist.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:29:44 No.388873

>>388868
i do nothing for a living. I don't ask for wealth. I don't complain when people give me things. I'm not overly afraid of cops like theyre some fucking gods

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:30:54 No.388877

>>388868
Labor is the basis of human existence, you cannot refute this and you will never be able to refute marxism.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:32:15 No.388882

>>388873
so what, you're NEET? A hobo posting from a public library? What?

I'm tired of people preaching to me that I'm a cuck for working but never providing alternatives. What the fuck do I do, find a commune or something? I literally have no idea and that's whY I made this damn thread.

>>388877
don't care about your spooked ideology, work-cultist. Go labor somewhere else.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:33:04 No.388888

>>388864
Let's take this passage out of context, written by the guy who wanted to abolish wage labor!

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:34:02 No.388890

>>388888
Workerists BTFO by quints.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:34:25 No.388893

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>>388877
lol what
if you mean picking berries and hunting and stuff is labor then sure
but overall, things kind of just make themselves. Food grows itself. Wood we use to build creates itself. Rocks are there of their own accord. Some people insist on doing too much

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:36:25 No.388899

>>388888
based quints

>>388893
based picture

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:40:51 No.388915

What if I'm employed to do a job where 90% of the time I do nothing, and I work from home?

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:41:01 No.388916

>>388888
Out of context how? He's talking about working not wage slavery, you're the one adding that

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:41:46 No.388919

>>388916
And OP is talking about wage slavery, so what's the point of posting that paragraph then?

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:43:13 No.388924

Born too early to enjoy the hyper-abundance of socialist society.
Born too late to become a libtard boomer, and square the circle of consooming without working, by becoming a slum landlord, off the back of inflated post-war wages.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:43:15 No.388925

>>388919
I'm reminding the anti-work cultists that they'll still have to work under socialism

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:44:55 No.388932

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>>388925
>they'll still have to work under socialism
Which is why I'm not a socialist, fucking nerd

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:45:00 No.388933

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>>388925
>cultists
This is some heavy projection.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:45:38 No.388936

>>388925
For what it's worth, my friend, we're still living in capitalism.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:47:06 No.388941

>>388932
And yet you're completely fucked by capitalism, from which you are unable to escape.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:47:51 No.388946

>>388941
So are you.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:49:00 No.388952

>>388932
why you don't wanna work? it'll be much more pleasant than under capitalism

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:49:15 No.388953

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We're in an international pandemic and no-one I know is self-sustaining, apart from a herb harden or a single fruit tree.
We're doomed kiddos.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:54:08 No.388964

>>388952
It'd be almost impossible to not "work" when capitalism is abolished. By Marx's definition and examples even going to chill fishing is fucking work.
Workerists simply haven't even read the most basic shit.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:54:29 No.388968

>>388946
Yes obviously. Everyone answers to capital, especially capitalists.
That's why I'm a socialist and want to abolish/move beyond it.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:57:30 No.388975

>>388952
Because work sucks and I don't want to work for anybody, be it a porky or a commissar.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 03:01:15 No.388984

>>388953
for real
I tried for a bigger garden this year, it was going to be glorious, but then heat waves and millions of grasshoppers made everything die or be eaten to the ground….
if only i had some goats and a family of hipster anarchist self made gypsies to take care of them….

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 11:28:36 No.389815

You only need to work 2 hours/day given modern productivity and if division of labor if reduced. (a change might be required: com -> soc.)
4 hours/day is possible under capitalism if workers strike for 4 hour/day same wage. May be then 2 hours/day part-time will be available, or 1 day a week.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 11:43:55 No.389829

>>388864
sounds like a cunt

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 11:53:54 No.389840

people shitting on anti-work leftists as if capitalism isnt still the de facto system worldwide lmaoooooooo

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 12:40:30 No.389881

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Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 14:32:18 No.390077

Just get on disability plus unemployment it’s not that hard

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 14:34:49 No.390087

>>388685
>How To Not Work?
By being a porky. Or grow carrots and dont call it work.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 16:17:38 No.390344

You have other options. Lol pretty uncreative. Work somewhere 11 weeks and then concoct some way to get "laid off" that won't disqualify you from unemployment benefits. You can then extend those benefits with some little job retraining class that doesn't take much time.

I've worked full-time for 790 days of my adult life. I'm 33. I've received unemployment benefits for about 4 non-consecutive years.

Dealing drugs isn't going to bring about "dangerous" people, the fact that you've come to that conclusion makes me think you're not cool enough to get drugs in the first place. You can sell to students and stoners or yuppie kardashian wannabes that just want to go clubbing.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 16:19:51 No.390348

>>390344
Actually, closer to 5 years. I also extended my uni degree by switching majors in junior year to put off getting work.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:21:27 No.390469

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>>388685
Just become friend with the rangers.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:23:21 No.390473

>>390469
The upkeep required to maintain a log cabin is staggering. Talk about working for the rest of your life, sheesh

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:36:38 No.390504

>>390473
It's a boss-free work. Fine by me.

>I want others to feed and house me
Go die in a fire.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:37:50 No.390505

>>390504
>Go die in a fire.
this
OP wants to be a permanent child, not an anarchist

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:40:15 No.390512

>>390504
>implying public housing is anywhere near as flammable as a log cabin
cope an seeth primbitch, have fun patching rotting wood with literal mud for the rest of your life.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:43:08 No.390516

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>>390512
Not only you want the working man to give you his hard earned money like a capitalist, but you are en wrong on your arguments.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:45:22 No.390522

>>390516
still seething /pol/ convert? still have fantasies of giving innawood and waiting for the day of the rope?

What is the root word for communism again?

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:50:00 No.390531

>>390522
Can't do the day of the rope if you are living off the grid, gold digger. Learn your classics.
Now, stop asking Daddy governement to create fake money and to make the workers trade their time for that money and to take that money just so you can live enjoying things other people worked for. You are not any better than the capitalists and without peple like you half of the world population would live in a commune already.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:51:07 No.390535

>>390531
Penis

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:53:01 No.390541

>>390531
You have a point that the anti-work fags seem like they want to be endless consoomers but like, I doubt you're really practicing what you preach mate.
TBH I mostly see NEETS making arguments like this.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 17:58:59 No.390555

>>390541
It's hard to be left alone, so no innawood unless I just happen to have enough to buy a nice patch of land before I am old.
THe only commune I found wanted to force me to work a given number of hours a week or they would ban me. This is worse than capitalism.
They do this because anti work guys exist and they simply don't have a choice.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 18:01:16 No.390559

Think of it this way, work for a Communist tomorrow so the next generation won't have to

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 18:01:30 No.390561

>>390555
eh fair enough. I Might be a bit too harsh on you, I do see a lot of pretentious tough guys on the internet who realize that being a katanalord is cringe so they shifted towards being more "gritty" and "Respectable" and have opinions that are more along those lines I guess, if you get what I Mean.
There is a lot of free loaders out there.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 18:05:29 No.390575

>>390559
>So, comrade, when will we achieve communism?
<Tomorrow.
>But that's what you said yesterday!
<What word you don't understand in communist tomorrow?

>>390561
Most anti work people are so anticapitalists that they are fine with the bread and circus scheme of Porky.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 18:09:30 No.390580

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Why are you guys being so mean to each other? Stop it.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 19:20:04 No.390695

>>390473
/thread
Go petty-bourg -> full porky if youre afraid of work.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 19:21:06 No.390696

>>390344
You are pretty close to me in age. Do you live with your parents and do you have a gf?

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 19:23:10 No.390703

>>390555
>THe only commune I found wanted to force me to work a given number of hours a week or they would ban me. This is worse than capitalism.

How? It seems a bit less alienated.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 19:33:36 No.390725

>>388685
I really need some good money saving tips and stuff like this from other leftists. The less you consume, the more money you can save and not have to work. Obviously doesn't apply to all proles, only the better paid ones.

Here are fast and easy tips:
- AdBlock! Adverts work. They work on you, whether you know it or not..
- Buy fans if you live in hot places, try to minimize AC use.
- thrift shops. NOT vintage Stores. Especially good in the US.
- don't eat out.
- drugs can be very expensive. Alcohol for ex. Especially if you do the fancy cocktail shit.
- If you get invited to restaurants, order the cheapest shit, nothing, or a dessert. Don't drink at restaurants.
- red meat is very expensive. Pork fills you up more per cent than chicken.
- legumes are super easy to make and are a great base.
- cancel subscriptions you might not need.
- move to a smaller place that is cheaper.
- whatch out for impulsive buys. You probably don't need that shit. Try to buy used if you think you will actually use it.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 19:36:00 No.390731

>>390703
It only one step above acutal slavery.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 19:44:04 No.390739

>>390731
Just like wages that don't allow you to pay rent.

Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 19:47:22 No.390745

>>390739
And this, my friend, is why I am not in this comune.

Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 04:42:28 No.402659

>>388925
they will have to labor under socialism, not work.

Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 04:58:22 No.402700

>anti-work thread
If it weren't for how retardedly long this OP is, I'd think this ridiculousness was /pol/ bait.

Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 04:59:41 No.402705

>>402700
>inb4 wagie
Wage Labour and work are not equivalent. They Wage labour is a type of work, but that does not mean all work is wage labour or that work itself is bad. Reading a book or creating a sculpture is also work.

Anonymous 2021-07-27 (Tue) 17:50:15 No.405223

>>388984
use better suited species and cultivars, rethink your irrigation system
adapt and overcome bitch, you're already on the right track
also you can eat the grasshoppers

Anonymous 2021-07-27 (Tue) 18:42:29 No.405292

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>>388685
Most un-Proletarian of you EgoAnon

Anonymous 2021-07-27 (Tue) 22:13:07 No.405606

>>405223
i did eat the grasshoppers… theyre not very tasty and its not like i'm some pioneer who needs to make it work so i stopped eating them

there's not really anything suited here, but also i dont think u get how destructive pests are. Even native plants are fucked this year. The only things with some green on them are well established bushes and trees, gumweed, tumbleweeds, and prickly lettuce. Basically the most weedy, least desirable plants.

this land is naturally just grasses and dirt… so well suited cultivars is kind of useless, no matter what I plant it's not really suited, but sometimes it works. This year was just exceptional with the heat and insane number of pests (like 3 grasshoppers per grass stalk in some areas numbers).

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