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 No.386057

/leftypol/ told me i should always support Nationalism outside the imperial core, but isn't it a simplistic view?
When is Nationalism good and when is it bad?
Why the iranian revolution based but the Afghan struggle against a foreign country not?
Why is it ok for Iran but not for Checenya?
Isn't the Yugolav balcanization also a struggle for self determination? How about the prague spring or the hungarian counter revolution?
Where do i draw the line?
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 No.386059

>/leftypol/ told me i should always support Nationalism outside the imperial core
You shouldn't
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 No.386067

>>386057
Simple, if your nationalism is based on the liberal concept of nation-state and/or it implies any sort of supremacism or imperialism I dont want it.
if its just ethno-cultural identitarianism count me in
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 No.386084

Think for yourself instead of wanting other people to tell you what to believe.
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 No.386098

>>386084
My post is obviously a provocation
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 No.386142

>>386057
If it's to expel capitalist imperialists.
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 No.386147

>>386142
Like Algeria…But then why supress the communist too?
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 No.386180

>>386057
Identities are a human made creation and likewise so are borders, because of this nationalism is a spook which ultimately means nationalism should only ever be used to improve the material conditions of the working class rather than as a means of fulfilling arbitrary philosophical engoals that reward unsustainable gains in material wealth through empire building, colonialism and genocide
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 No.389694

>>386180

Material conditions are themselves human made creations. Silly commies think they can get out of making choices.
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 No.389727

>>389694
>Material conditions are themselves human made creations
>Material
>Human made creations
Are you trying to be a nihilist man ? NoThİnG exİsT, EvErYtHiNg İs İn YoUr BrAiN. ReAlİtY iS İlLuSiOn
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 No.389733

>>389727
>when a literal nazi knows marx better than you
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 No.389868

>>386057
>/leftypol/ told me i should always support Nationalism outside the imperial core
Who told you that gay shit must be a dengoid. Nationalism everywhere is bad, it just sometimes coincide with anti-imperialism. Sometimes people confuse realpolitik with correct ideology.
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 No.389883

>>389868
Or he is just misinterpreting the left position deliberately. Sounds much more likely. But no, it's Deng that is under your bed.
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 No.389884

>>389868
Vietanon you are one of my favorite posters on this board
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 No.389947

>>386057
I make a distinction between right-wing nationalism and left-wing nationalism. Right-wing nationalism is the nationalism of oppressors while left-wing nationalism is the nationalism of the oppressed. White nationalism is right-wing since it seeks to maintain or even enhance the oppression of nonwhites at the hands of whites, while black nationalism is (generally) left-wing because it seeks to reduce or eliminate the oppression of blacks by whites. It is also possible for a group to have right-wing nationalism and left-wing nationalism simultaneously. For example, both the right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party and the various left-wing communist parties in India espouse Indian nationalism. However, the objectives of their nationalism are quite different. The BJP seeks to maintain the dominance of Hindus, upper castes, men, and other dominant groups over Muslims, lower castes, women, and other marginalized groups. On the other hand, the Indian communist parties seek to reduce the dominance of Western countries, supranational organizations, NGOs, and companies over India and are opposed to preserving traditional social hierarchies within India. Basically, right-wing nationalists and left-wing nationalists in India have different enemies. Feel free to support left-wing anti-imperialist nationalism in India, but do not support Hindutva.
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 No.390140

>>389947
>nationalism is good when I like it and bad when I don't like it
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 No.390573

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>>390140
>>nationalism is good when I like it and bad when I don't like it
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 No.390578

>>390140
well yeah right-wing nationalism is mostly about just being a pretentious try hard asshole to people and left-wing nationalism is defensive.
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 No.390583

>>389694
>this is your brain on post-modernism
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 No.390666

>>390573
>>389947
>>390578
Based and correct.
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 No.397369

>>386067
Way to get the shittiest posible take holy shit
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 No.397382

>>389947
You are just anti white.
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 No.404681

>>390583
>The materialist doctrine concerning the changing of circumstances and upbringing forgets that circumstances are changed by men and that it is essential to educate the educator himself.
t. Marx

Does anybody read anything anymore in this stupid shithole?
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 No.404682

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 No.404683

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 No.404690

>>397382
Well yea, most of us here are.
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 No.404694

>>404683
>>404690
Unfortunately for you, this manifests as a contradiction in internationalism. That some people are to organize and identify with their peoples and others just humanity will quickly undo itself as a kind of false solidarity.
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 No.404703

>>404690
This is not true. This is a reddit meme
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 No.404707

>>386147
>But then why supress the communist too?
Why they wouldn't ?they are danger for the national unity:)
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 No.404953

>>404694
>Taking ironic posts meant to bait someone seriously
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 No.405278

>>389947
First thing first, whites fo not oppressed blacks, if a white dude says something bad about blacks he gets fired, this isn’t true for black dudes.

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