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 No.376296

The midwit meme is fucking retarded and so is anyone using it. It's literally just the /pol/ version of the PMC meme. The vast majority of white collar professionals are "midwits" with the exception of some top scientists, mathematicians, etc. who may be somewhat above that.

Midwit as a meme was created by the far right writer vox day, and refers to people of average to above average (but not genius level) intelligence. I'm sure you've seen the bell curve memes like picrel showing a dumb guy agreeing with an intellectual on the idea that reason and evidence are epistemically unsound. The problem is that the intellectuals they quote are usually out of context or fucking Nietzsche, revealing them to basically be at the level of an arrogant sophomore philosophy major.

Every conservative ideologue in history, from Nietzsche, to Burke, to Jordan Peterson, to Charles Murray, to Ayn Rand have the exact same take: Hierarchy and inequality natural and the purpose of society is to uplift the few great men who will actually make society great.

All this bullshit about "high iq" people disregarding empirical evidence, reason, or research in favor of gut instinct is just idealist nonsense designed to obfuscate their preference for an unthinking acceptance of tradition and hierarchy.

The progressive forces of history have always used reason to critique and interrogate the existing hierarchical order of things. By the midwit meme, thinkers like Locke, Rousseau, Spinoza, and Adam Smith would have been considered "midwits" for questioning the privileges of the aristocracy or the divine right of kings.

An attack on reason is an attack on the tools of self emancipation as fascism and reaction have always thrived on mysticism and irrationality.
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 No.376307

Midwits will rule the world
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 No.376308

>>376307
Midwits already rule the world. Nepotism often overrides meritocracy in leadership roles.
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 No.376309

Some anon posted a quote of Gramsci proving he discovered or described “midwits” far before any rightoid
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 No.376310

Shut up, midwit
= but you’re actually right and IQ is a meme=
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 No.376318

>>376296
115 iq is objectively the best iq because it's mine
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 No.376345

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>>376296
>NOOOOOOO STUPID PEOPLE AND SMART PEOPLE CANNOT REACH THE SAME CONCLUSIONS ON THINGS USING DIFFERENT LOGIC– YOU HAVE TO ENDLESSLY PHILOSPHICALLY MASTURABTE LIKE A PETITE BOUGEOIS STOOGE AND NEVER HOLD ANY FIRM CONVICTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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 No.376451

>>376296
i dont have much stake in this stupid argument but the way i've seen the midwit thing used, its used to make fun of people who think theyre really smart, but aren't, and basically refuse reason and proper thinking in favor of just whatever the fuck they hear or pops into their head because their mom said they're a genius and they did reasonably well in school.

I'm on your side that there's nothing wrong with literal midwits, but for sure there's a sort of educated-idiot or overhyped-man-baby syndrome that these people fall into where they are given positions of power and are considered to be people who should know things (like basically all politicians, and many doctors and therapists, basically all professionals who know just enough to do their jobs but dont take it further and think for themselves, or are given purview over a wider area than their real knowledge should apply to by even less knowledgeable people, mostly politicians here) or just consider themselves to be thing-knowers because theyre autistic and it strokes their ego, idk whatever

i agree though reason is the way out, the problem is when people think theyre above reason
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 No.376471

The biggest midwits always come from imageboards. There barely ever seems to be a take that's downright normie tier stupid but I barely see much brilliance either outside of maybe a few posts on leftypol or whatever.
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 No.376574

>>376451
Most bourgeois politicians are small town lawyers from yokelsville who get appointed to the science committee or something and yeah they’re midwits in that sense but using a person with genius level iq to be a politician would be a waste anyway when they could be discovering the cure for cancer or something
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 No.376609

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>>376296
I agree with you but bell curve memes are too funny to stop using, so I will keep meme'ing them
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 No.376624

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 No.376633

>>376451
Most bourgeois politicians are small town lawyers from yokelsville who get appointed to the science committee or something and yeah they’re midwits in that sense but using a person with genius level iq to be a politician would be a waste anyway when they could be discovering the cure for cancer or something
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 No.376649

> All this bullshit about "high iq" people disregarding empirical evidence, reason, or research in favor of gut instinct is just idealist nonsense

It’s funny, you are such a midwit you can’t even understand the midwit meme.
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 No.376658

Midwitt meme, at least to me, was never about IQ, but about dipshits who DO have a good brain, but are absolutely lazy and in reality detached from intelectualism (which isn't bad on its own), and also have massive pretensions about being deep thinkers. Every /pol/yp who has 140IQ test scores and then goes ranting about his super scientific incel question research made from interviewing 5 channers is peak midwitt. Meanwhile a guy who isn't too smart but put the time and determination in to actually familiarizing themselves in scientific method is far beyond a midwitt, no matter the IQ.
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 No.376669

How do I cope with being a midwit? I have like an iq of 110 or so. (Actual test took)
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 No.376674

>>376669
How about don’t worry about it and just live your life IQ is stupid anyway
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 No.376677

>>376296
t. midwit
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 No.376678

>>376669
IQ is fake unless you are at the extreme ends of it. Only lazy uighurs use it to pretend they are superior. If you are diligent, you will outpace any 140IQ midwit that lives as a neet online comentator.
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 No.376683

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Mods should just bring back the iq = autism level filter
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 No.376684

>>376683
That's being voted on rn lol
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 No.376695

>>376296
Even accepting all that, you seem to realize what midwit memes are meant to express underneath: it's a form of cope under the fact that people aren't going to see things the same way you do, or more bluntly, that people are just not going to "get it". Ever tried to talk to someone and you realize they keep going in circles, contradicting themselves, but not having the attention span to realize that they're arguing in a circle and that their whole belief should undermine itself?

You're right if the whole midwit meme as a way to look down on others and later justify some upper echelon of super-smart ubermenschen. But you probably know as well as I do that you can have an IQ of 200 and still be legitimately stupid in anything outside your expertise. And unlike an actual retard who can't help but do silly things, it'd be all your fault for not knowing better. But like the other anon said >>376451 midwit is used to make fun of the "half-education" Adorno talks about in Dialectic of Enlightenment. You know, the "receive information passively and repeat it without thinking" kinda thing. Not knowing how to check your sources. That could actually be helpful in getting people to actually exercise some critical thinking capacity.

The problem is that the meme is just about putting a graph of averages and treating it like a statistical fact, not a problem to be overcome. It invites insecure poltards to look at it, locate themselves safely above the middle, then act as if that's good enough so that they can laugh at everyone else below them for being naturally dumb. That's the ultimate kind of midwit that we should get rid of, because in the end, a midwit is a retard with unwarranted confidence.
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 No.376795

>>376684
Gonna guess that was my fault.
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 No.376810

>>376677
what a predictable response
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 No.376820

Midwit moment
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 No.376822

It's agony dealing with you retards who think you're smart. The only productive discussions I have are with zero education idiots and highly educated self driven people
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 No.376869

I am an extremely stable genius. I have the highest IQ
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 No.376897

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>>376296
Nice midwit take on Nietzsche
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 No.376932

>>376471
Calling someone a midwit is the biggest cope in a debate “ha you’re asking for evidence that means you’re SOY and MIDWIT!!!1!”
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 No.376939

>>376932
T.sourcefag midwit
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 No.376944

>>376939
T. Source less and wrong coping dimwit
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 No.377274

>>376296
>Every conservative ideologue in history, from Nietzsche
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 No.377279

>>376944
Sources are cope.
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 No.377538

>>376633
yeah, i guess i didnt really write out what i meant here, but it wasnt talking about geniuses or middle IQ people, i was meaning politicians are often given the power to make decisions on stuff where they are not experts, e.g. about economics, or the environment and regulations there, or about regulation technology. They bring in experts on these things, and have to quickly try to understand these things. It's the same problem with judges and computer crimes, e.g. People have a hard time making good decisions about shit they only half-get, and I'm not even saying the experts should be in charge, i'm just saying its retarded that we elect lawyers or entrepreneurs to make decisions that really aught to take into account the science and data we know, and often they just dont get it or reject it or dont know where to start with it.
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 No.377558

>>376451
agreed anon. non-autismos understand that this is the implicit context
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 No.377745

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>>376296
>The midwit meme is fucking retarded and so is anyone using it. It's literally just the /pol/ version of the PMC meme.
Sooo it's good?

>The vast majority of white collar professionals are "midwits" with the exception of some top scientists, mathematicians, etc. who may be somewhat above that.

You don't understand what a midwit is. This guy >>376451 knows what a midwit actually is. We don't care about IQ/autism level, it's about what you do as an individual.


>revealing them to basically be at the level of an arrogant sophomore philosophy major.

Philosophy is basically religion but for midwit who they are above the irrational force of social coercion.

>Every conservative ideologue in history, from Nietzsche, to Burke, to Jordan Peterson, to Charles Murray, to Ayn Rand have the exact same take

Way to out yourself as a midwit.

>All this bullshit about "high iq" people disregarding empirical evidence, reason, or research in favor of gut instinct is just idealist nonsense designed to obfuscate their preference for an unthinking acceptance of tradition and hierarchy.

Are you a troll from /pol/ or are you legitimately this retarded? It's called deductive reasoning, moron.
I could say the same exact fucking thing about your shitty post, you're just making an empiricist argument using buzzwords you saw on snopes or CNN to obfuscate your preference for radlibs politics.

>The progressive forces of history have always used reason to critique and interrogate the existing hierarchical order of things. By the midwit meme, thinkers like Locke, Rousseau, Spinoza, and Adam Smith would have been considered "midwits" for questioning the privileges of the aristocracy or the divine right of kings.

<Locke
<progressive force
You're a troll, there's no way someone could be this legitimately retarded, making an argument against midwits while still being this much of a fucking midwit. That or you rightfully feel offended by the meme, which is targeted at people like you.
Let me guess, you're one of these retards who still wonder why so many American follow Trump despite him being "irrational"?
Reason is not an end in itself, it's a tool among others, reasons is good to understand the world, but it falls flat when put against the brutes forces of reality. People don't become part of a political movement because of "reason", they become part of a movement because they have material imperatives that align with those of the movement. I won't join the vegan movement despite their arguments, which to their credit, is mostly rational; not because I am not rational, but because I couldn't care less about their ideas because they don't align with my personal interest as a person.

>An attack on reason is an attack on the tools of self emancipation as fascism and reaction have always thrived on mysticism and irrationality.

I am going to go ahead and say reason is a tool of the bourgeoisie to maintain power, to be a socialist is to reject the "rational" arguments of liberal with their "rational macro long-term perspective" in which everyone ends up magically happy and rich. "In the Long Run we are all dead", and with this simple sentence your whole rational system collapse on itself.
Your argument implies that we aren't naturally geared toward following reason, rather that we are animals guided by our impulses; when you oppose the "fascists" with "reason" you imply human being could somehow exists without reason as if such a thing was possible. Fascists have their own reasons to be fascist, and when you come with your retarded dichotomy of "reason vs irrationality" you just come of as a massive liberal retard. I am not going to further write down my thoughts, you do your fucking research and then you come back with real fucking arguments. Go fuck yourself.
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 No.377858

>>377745
>NOOOOOO! YOURE RETARDED! LOGIC IS FOR PORKY!
Calling that anon a pol troll is misdirection, this post is a subtle /pol/ bait
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 No.377870

>>376296
I dont think you understand memes. Theyre supposed to be stupid and funny, not an elaborate philosophical analysis.
Basically, you might have autism.
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 No.377913

>>377858
Look another midwit!

I didn't say at any point logic or reason is "porky", the fact of the matter is that the ideals of reasons in the modern world are mainly bourgeois ideals which don't reflect the common need of the everyday people, the workers. When a worker express grievance at the injustice he is victim of in this system, the bourgeois intellectuals will rationalize such thing as being the product of a "free market" where "everyone has opportunity" and that on the long term "your children or grand children will become rich". Destroying union or lowering wages? This is a good thing for the "consumers" and so for yourself since you will benefit from product at lower prices! Censuring alternative voices and normal people? This is actually a protection of free speech since we ensure the free market of idea remain free of misinformation and extremist thoughts.
You must think everything I wrote is stupid but this is where the cult of rationality will lead you, the more you try to become this fake emotionless "rational" individual, the more you are ready to accept to have your basic dignity taken away.
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 No.378070

>>377913
see thats not reason thats rationalizations and ideology. By your logic the classical liberals never should have critiqued feudalism using logic because Aquinas used it to defend Catholicism. You're conflating bourgeois ideal rational subject with literally just using logic to critique things including capitalism
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 No.378136

>>376897
>what Neitzsche ACTUALLY meant was-!
shut the fuck up. neitzsche contradicts himself every other paragraph.
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 No.391832

>>377538
whats the alternative? be ruled by experts?
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 No.391838

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 No.392225

>>391832
Being ruled by expertise.
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 No.392231

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>>378136
if you say so
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 No.392234

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The midwit meme is literally just bragging that you know how to rationalize something and arrive at an equally stupid conclusion by wasting even more brain power.
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 No.392236

t. Midwit
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 No.394837

>>376296
t. Midwit
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 No.395355

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>>392236
>>394837
>NOOOO! MIDWIT! MIDWIT! I CAN'T REFUTE ANYTHING YOU SAID SO I'LL CALL YOU NAMES!

try literally addressing anything you utter fools
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 No.395382

>>395355
t. midwit
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 No.395428

>>395355
t. midwit
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 No.395438

>>395428
>>395382
what the fuck is up with this double posting
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 No.395574

>>395438
t. singleposting peasant
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 No.395604


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