No.364321
How come there is practically no anti-religious militancy in history? Like uprisings/revolutions/Terrorism or even individual attacks. When there was almost an endless amount of the same done by religious fundamentalists and the devout?
I mean with all the horrific and sadistic shit religious zealots and governments did to nonbelievers/women/others and all the control and domination they have had over people in history there is surprisingly little (almost none) pushback against this by secularists and atheists.(torture, murder, inquisition, pogroms, supression of freedoms, thought policing, mutilation, public hangings, public floggings, witch trials, forced conversions, support for slavery, support for fascism, sexual abuse of children, emotional abuse and indoctrination in schools…. to name a few)
And when there was, it was always a part of some other bigger movement and done as a sort of side policy and few people other than the most hardcore leading revolutionaries even cared about it. Even in places where Fundamentalists hijacked a revolution and imposed their rule on an entire country in Iran, resistance was confined to a small group of iraqi backed cultists hated by pretty much everyone else.
I mean, we constantly hear about people being radicalized into fundamentalism by rampant secularism but never the other way around even when there are perfect contradictions for it to happen. And most atheists I have talked to always seem to have a live and let live attitude and are bizarrely obsessed with being civil and polite in the face of opression. They seem to be bigger forgivers than Christians and balk at the idea of opposing it with anything other than a pen and paper and "muh critical thinking". Not even the most hardcorr state atheist regimes in history seem to be even NEARLY as brutal to believers as they were to nonbelievers. They never punished them for practicing their religions in private.
I'm not trying to be a fedoralord here, but I have a hard time understanding this. Is this some kind of extreme Stockholm syndrome, or what is it? I'm a theorylet and historylet but those things just don't make sense to me. Please explain.
I was raised in a generally religious country but never really fully bought into religion even as a kid. Christcom and Islamcom, please refrain from shitflinging and just quote me with a soyjak and move on.
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No.364324
Also mods, can you please unspoiler the image? I did it on accident.
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No.364333
>>364321>How come there is practically no anti-religious militancy in history? Like uprisings/revolutions/Terrorism or even individual attacks.Bruh, you know the french revolution?
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No.364371
>>364321>Christcom and Islamcom, please refrain from shitflinging and just quote me with a soyjak and move on.KEK
I mean, this is a good question, OP anon. I don't know. I've once tried to make a thread about Paris Commune anniversary chads BTFOing a bunch of Christians a few weeks ago, who demonstrated, because a handful of priests got (rightly) executed by the Commune. As an answer theist mods banned me, saged the thread and later deleted it.
This problem is indeed very real even on /leftypol/. It just proved that theists' highest allegiance remains their braindead religion over communism.
I'll make sure to push hard to have those revisionists/traitors purged in my local movement.
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No.364380
>>364321Most governments of the world are secular, any society who wants to become powerful needs lots of technology and has to teach it's people a lot of science which will over time erode the power of religious institutions.
The rest of religion will wither away once we move to a socialist mode of production, there is no need to turn into a late stage Christopher Hitchens type neo-con.
We won.
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No.364393
Robespierre and company actively hunted down clergy as did Spanish anarchists, so there's that.
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No.364399
The Soviet Union of the Atheists had the right idea.
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No.364442
>Why are Atheists and secularists such pussies?
Have you ever heard of a man named Enver Hoxha?
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No.364443
Because Atheism makes no sense.
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No.364869
>>364867Justify Atheism retard.
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No.364876
>>364869Gods, spooks, and spirits aren't real.
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No.364880
>>3648691. Religion is the bringer of barbarism unto this world
2. No evidence of the supernatural whatsoever,
countless contradictions
3. Inconpatible with a materialist worldview
4. If god existed, he would be undesirable
5. I did your mother
quite simple.
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No.364889
>>364876Prove it
>>3648801.False
2.False
3.False
4.False
5.False
Also, none of these points justify atheism even if they were true, which they are not. It's a totally incoherent position.
No Athiest can explain the beginning of space time.
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No.364905
>>364889>Prove itNo god would let a faggot like you exist in their world.
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No.364906
>>364899No. Its impossible to justify.
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No.364908
>>364905Lmao more cope from the Athioids. It's a position which is impossible to jusify.
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No.364911
>>364869justify religion retard
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No.364914
>>364911Aha this is the athiods game.
I am not justifying any religion. Just saying atheism is incoherent.
The Athiest must lash out and accuse because his own position is ridiculous.
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No.364917
>>364914pure christcuck cope
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No.364922
>>364917Yeah funny that all yall retard in the thread have to assume I'm a Christian (Lmao). In order to manage their own cognitive disonance.
To any Athiods in this thread. Explain the origin of space time? Thats it. But you can't
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No.364924
>>364321Too fat to be militant
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No.364940
>>364922there's a difference between
>having an answerand
>having a correct answerwhy would i want the former at the expense of the latter? if humans don't know the origin of space time then we don't know it. until we learn new information, we refrain from passing judgment. you have a preconceived notion saying
>well, at least i have an answerbecause the answer is easy peasy
>Goddiditright?
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No.364941
>>364935Lmao, what are you talking about. I'm not even religious. Just not an athiest.
You have to lash out at some strawman because Atheism is incoherent. It's just a reaction to other things, its own position makes no sense.
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No.364951
>>364941No, atheism literally just means believing that there is no god and that the Big Bang created the universe. Not every atheist is some “I fucking love science haha stupid fundies” caricature.
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No.364953
>>364951Big bang is incoherent. And Atheism encompasses a lot more than that.
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No.364954
>>364953>And Atheism encompasses a lot more than that.Like what?
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No.364955
>>364941Why are you acting like you made a good post in the first place? You shitposted and you want people to respond to you seriously?
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No.364959
>>364953Okay then what’s your explanation for the creation of the universe and why do you think the Big Bang theory is incoherent?
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No.364965
>>364959I have none, neither does Atheism. Which is why it is incoherent. Also, the big bang makes no sense because it has no explanation for the origin of time or space.
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No.365083
>Like uprisings/revolutions/Terrorism or even individual attacks.
Simply put, martyrdom. Because theists expect something in return if they risked their lives for the sake of their God(s). Why the fuck should I give my life away to some retards to send a message about taking down religion instead of going on with my limited time on earth?
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No.365087
>>364321>risk dying for unbeliefWhat the fuck would you do that?
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No.365214
>>364965>Also, the big bang makes no sense because it has no explanation for the origin of time or space.Yes it does, this shit is complicated as fuck and even top scientists are constantly realizing new things about and intelligent people like me still struggle to wrap my head around it, I suggest you actually read some scientific papers if you want to even begin to understand the origin of time of space, it's a lot more interesting (and accurate) than being a contrarian Christian LARPer on an imageboard.
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No.365218
>prove that god doesn't exist
You don't have to. The burden of proof is on someone who says something DOES exist. Russell's tea pot thought experiment has literally never been successfully argued against. Just because you can't prove something isn't there doesn't mean it exists. You have to have evidence that something isn't there. Otherwise, why believe in god and not anything else? You have just as much reason to believe in thor or ra as you do to believe in god. It's totally arbitrary, meaningless, unfalsifiable, a bad theory, no explanatory power, it's wrong. Total bullshit.
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No.365228
>>365218Yeah facts, I totally understand not getting the origins of time of space, but in that case just be an agnostic, don't just make up some mythical "god."
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No.365364
>>364941>I'm not an atheist,I'm AGNOSTIC actually !that's pretty much what everybody means by atheism nowadays anyway.
you're probably going to get a shitton more (you)s for this from retards who need to get mad at something to live.
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No.365420
>>364940positivist retardation
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No.365732
>>365214>just trust me bro they totally have a valid explanation , You and me could just never understand it. Trust me broIt does not have any explanation for the origin of time. Sorry you will have to cope with the lack of human explanation for reality.
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No.365735
>>365732>>just trust me bro they totally have a valid explanation , You and me could just never understand it. Trust me broWhat a fucking strawman, did you not read my post? I literally told you to actually read some scientific papers.
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No.365745
>>365734the Ori literally did nothing wrong Adria would have become an Ancient and brought peace and prosperity to the whole universe
stargate command are cucks for denying the uplifting
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No.366513
the only evidence of a supernatural force is "dude believe me"¨
idealists like you must be made turned into girls and eductated about materialism
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No.366585
say that to my face and not online
Secularism is the way and the truth and the life.
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No.367610
>>367587>USSR inadvertently does the same thing that rationalists did to theocrats during the Abbasid caliphate>gets the same result where the theocrats strike back and kill scientific thinking for the next thousand years First as tragedy, then as farce.
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No.391101
>no anti-religious militancy in history
>Bolsheviks
>Mao
>Cuba
>Spain
Top kek.
Retard.
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No.394150
>>367610It wasn't theocrats but capitalists who struck back. There's no negotiating with reactionary religious institutions, the solution must be extermination.
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No.394169
these days at least people are too afraid of being characterised as bigots (particularly antisemites) to admit that the abrahamic religions are inherently reactionary and need to be destroyed. where is comrade
varg when you need him
>>365734>here's no class basis for atheism vs religioneh I mean every organised religion I've studied at least just seems like a way for clergy to make money controlling the population with stupid lies
>>367587>tfw soviet antireligious propaganda looks like something out of der sturmer>>394150>exterminationcomrade adolf hitler?
>>364935picrel
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No.394188
Also, notably, Francisco Franco was largely fueled by Catholics who were scared shitless due to a rising tide of anti-clericalism in Spain (precedented by multiple waves of anti-religious activities) leading to the Republican government not being willing to really defend the churches from attacks.
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No.394192
militant secularism is cringe
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No.394195
Atheists tend not to act much differently from religious people.
There have been plenty of horrific and sadistic shit done by cringe atheists this isn't unique to religious people
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No.394281
>>364914>atheism is incoherent.Lol. Read one of your fairy tales instead then.
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No.394444
>>394169>something out of der sturmerNo, get rid of your liberal preconceptions and stop automatically associating communism with fascism.
And the Bolsheviks talked about exterminating the bourgeoisie for good reason.
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No.396690
>>394169>>tfw soviet antireligious propaganda looks like something out of der sturmerhow new