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 No.326202[View All]

Please come back Rusanon Comrades! Save us from the polyp and lolbert raids.

Я вас категорически приветствую.

- A westoid who misses you.
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 No.399685

Hi rusanons,

So I came across one of those soviet expat liberal self described "non-ideologues" on quora by accident due to search engine results.

In so doing it has strengthened my conviction that during the revolution and forever after death penalty must also apply to the closest loved ones of the degenerate in question.

All of these people and their families must be systematically eliminated and then systemically/metaphysically eliminated (so that it becomes impossible for them to come into existence ever again).

A structural surplus of organ replacements for at least a decade or two.
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 No.399749

>>392320
Gomel will rise.
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 No.402165

What's the power dynamic like between Putin and the oligarchs? He probably has the most power of any one person in Russia, but what if he wipes out all the oligarchs and installs people loyal to him, rather than sharing power with the current ones? Putin has political power unlike the oligarchs so it seems he has more power than them.
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 No.404695

>>402165
>What's the power dynamic like between Putin and the oligarchs?
BDSM
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 No.404723

>>402165
Puting is nothing but a faithful dog for oligarchs. They put him in power. Stop drinking liberal propaganda kool aid
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 No.404830

>>404723
This is unhelpful. Putin has the highest political office in Russia, and has a very large amount of wealth himself. There is no way he is just a "faithful dog" to them.
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 No.404954

Hmm, I just understood that it is probably these "USSR strong" threads in .ru were likely made by KPRF.
KPRF is not communist at all, I agitate against it. They do not organize and do not educated workers as I know., they are not a workers party. They show themself as USSR party, but this is not true, but as I know they are more like USSR party traitors.

>>380749
>genetic .. same
This is irrelevant, I do not know why mention this…

But ukrainians have white hair when young and frequently blue eyes. Some of them..
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 No.404966

>>404830
You are an idiot who doesn't understand how capitalism works.
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 No.405026

>>404966
Putin clearly has more power within his state than any Western politician does in theirs, both political and economic (his personal wealth is estimated to be near $200 billion for instance, SUPER far from people like Biden or even Trump). You probably just can't analyze the situation and assume Russia is like any other country and has its exact same dynamics.
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 No.405147

>>405026
I live in Russia, you numnuts. I remember 90s when Putin was nobody but a fuckboi for Sobyanin. They put him in power because he was a good executive, and he is still in power because he still is useful to them. All you need to do is watch how Putin even talks with oligarchs in hte meetings, it's quite clear who is in power there. You know nothing about Russia and you just blindly believes that Putin is like some sort fo tsar because all info you get is from western lib newspapers.
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 No.405149

>>405147 (me)
*not Sobyanin, Sobchak. Had a brain fart for a moment.
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 No.405183

>>405147
If he is in power, why doesn't he purge the ones who threaten him and then install his own guys? He is one of the most powerful people in the world.
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 No.405209

>>405183
Because his power comes from those oligarchs. He is a manager basically. Why do i even need to explain such things on a fucking communist board?
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 No.405219

>>405209
What prevents Putin from having these guys assassinated/arrested? Will law enforcement not obey Putin unless he has permission from the oligarchs?
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 No.405242

>>405147
What's the deal with Grudinin being banned from running in elections? Isn't he a KPRF member, too? Accusing him of holding foreign assets while russian oligarchs and Putin's daughter live abroad seems like a really bad excuse for getting rid of him.
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 No.405315

>>405242
It is the usual circus before elections. Has more or less same reasons behind it as burger "controversies" on election year. Occasionally they need to change clowns so that people keep believing same shit. Zyuganov is a bit old and doesn't really work as opposition material anymore, so they promoted Grudinin to play as opposition.

The scheme is simple - you have the main guy/party, you have some sort of opposition guy and you have some clown that everybody hate so that at least a couple of people would go to election booth to vote for anybody but him. Sometimes they even pretend they repress the opposition guy so that people believe he is "for realz". Most likely he would still be allowed to participate in elections after a bit of a show.

Same shit happened with Navalny several years ago when runnig for mayor of Moscow or something. He was put into police custody but released a couple of days before the elections so he could participate (even though by law he couldn't do it because he was criminally charged)
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 No.405343

>>405315
>Sometimes they even pretend they repress the opposition guy so that people believe he is "for realz".
When does that happen?
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 No.405344

>>405343
I literally gave an example.
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 No.405347

>>405344
Navalny? I thought the Russian state legitimately hated him. Are they really going to let him try to be Moscow's mayor?
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 No.405349

>>405209
Wouldn't the Oligarchs want a yeltsin-type neoliberal that lets the west pillage russia, while they make more profits? Putin is still a confused conservative, but he atleast isn't on the "yay-freedom" train as yeltsin was on and he realises that the west is out to finish off russia
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 No.405356

>>405349
I remember asking this and got the response that the oligarchs have already consolidated themselves into a class by the late 90s, and after having finished buying up former public property in Russia, got Putin in power to close off the gates, so to say, and preserve the current lineup of oligarchs. Basically to get Putin as a gatekeeper and keep their status safe.
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 No.405366

>>405347
>>405349
>>405356
The absolute state of this borad. Just kill me now, please.
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 No.405372

>>405366
Enlighten us o' wise one
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 No.405380

>>405372
Don't want to, it's not my job.
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 No.405386

>>405380
Then tell us where we can get your superior understanding of the domestic political situation in russia. You know maybe some books etc?
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 No.405395

File: 1627415225365.epub ( 140.75 KB , Samir Amin - Russia and t….epub )

Russiabros, does anyone have read it? If yes, what is your opinion of it?
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 No.405415

>>405356
That makes sense.

This is simple video (with English subtitles) but I thought it was a good summary of a red perspective on Russia in a global context as an oligarchical state focused on resource extraction and export.

Putin seems like a pretty effective manager overall, but I think the description of him as manager is pretty accurate. Not so much as "president of Russia" as he is "CEO of the Russian Natural Gas Company." He answers to the "board of directors" who are consortium of boojies. I wonder if they're like a "national bourgeoisie" who have an interest in energy production and whose interests Putin favors more than pure speculators like Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
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 No.405422

>>405415
7:20 in that video. "Russia is a deindustrialized country of peripheral capitalism whose main function in the global economy is to supply developed countries with natural resources."
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 No.405472

are moldanons cool? russian is my first lang..
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 No.405486

File: 1627418359972.png ( 18.31 KB , 330x209 , ClipboardImage.png )

What happened to the education system? It's this shit all over post soviet countries
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 No.405576

File: 1627422197157.jpg ( 320.5 KB , 909x1286 , __ia_and_soyuz_vocaloid_dr….jpg )

What are some good works to read on watch on the Soviet/Russian space program from the perspective of Russians? A lot of stuff on it in English is from Americans like James Oberg who paint it in unflattering and cynical terms.
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 No.405774

ролик о деятельности новой рабочей партии Польши, которая кажется сегодня единственной настоящей левой силой в Польше у которой есть какие-то будущее, особенно смотря на бездеятельность КПП и либерализм других 'левых' движений
надеюсь что увидим в течении наших жизней возрождение союза польского и русского пролетариата
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 No.406658

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>>405380
Why people do this even?
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 No.406984

>>406658
>le faked screenshot has arrived
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 No.406996

>>406658
why don't you reply?
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 No.407021

Bumping >>405386
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 No.407153

>>406996
Probably because i go to sleep at different time than burgers do. Timezones exist.

What exactly do you need me to explain to you, /pol/yps?
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 No.407157

What you replied to in >>405366
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 No.407162

>>407153
i am not burger
Explain the situation in russia, i seriously want to know it from a leftist perspective. >>405356 seems plausible to me, but you said it's wrong so I don't know now, and am waiting for you to give an alternative, maybe?
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 No.407174

>>407162
I am not a fucking leftist, i am a communist. And i already explained it. And if you were a communist, you wouldn't need me to spoon feed you. And since you are not, you are either some shitlib or /pol/yp who each day makes this board worse.

That guy >>405356 doesn't even know what the fuck "class" is. Though he at least more or less right in the fact that Putin is just a manager for the capitalists in power.

>>405380
>>406984
This schizo pretends to be me for some fucking reason i don't even know why.

>>405219
This moron doesn't even understand how state works or capitalism. And asks absoluteky retarded questions like "Why Trump doesn't order Biden shot if he is chief commander"

>>405347
And this faggot can't even read what i wrote.

You shitstains are the reason this board suck and that anons who actualy understand marxism and were doing effort posting left this place.

Fuck. You. All. Don't even fucking bother replying to me, i just hope that you family will get cancer or some shit.
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 No.407189

>>407174
>And if you were a communist, you wouldn't need me to spoon feed you.
Dude I don't know the situation in all countries, fuck I barely know what's up in my own country and I'm still a fucking a kid, what do you expect?
>And since you are not
Why do you think that?? Because I'm not an omniscient being that doesn't understand internal affairs in a foreign country??
>not a fucking leftist
Usually this comes from more grounded communists that try to be friends with the working class as opposed to the "leftists" that alienate it with their weird degeneracy and gatekeeping, but you're the fucking gatekeeper here dude, you ARE the kind of "leftist" you're desperately trying not to associate yourself with.
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 No.407204

>>407174
What are your thoughts on Samir Amins "Russia and the long transition from capitalism to socialism", if you have read it at all?
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 No.407207

>>407174
>Logs onto leftypol.org and says he's not a leftist
>Accuses everyone of being a liberal or fascist
Good chance this is a troll.
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 No.407211

>>407207
Could be, but there are quite a lot of communists that try to distance themself from leftism/socialism so idk could be legit
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 No.407318

>>407207
>>Logs onto leftypol.org and says he's not a leftist
I bet you have been on this board less than a month. From the start it was a predominantly communist board. And many communist don't care for being called "leftist" because frankly "left" means fuck all while "communist" has a specific meaning.
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 No.407329

>>407318
>I bet you have been on this board less than a month. From the start it was a predominantly communist board. And many communist don't care for being called "leftist" because frankly "left" means fuck all while "communist" has a specific meaning.
But it has lefty in the name dude. Why, are you scared of calling yourself a "leftist"?
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 No.407340

>>407329
Boy, aren't you retarded. Just go back to /pol/.
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 No.407345

>>407340
What, is this the level of understanding you have? You can't explain your thoughts in a clear, short and unambiguous way?
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 No.407461

File: 1627497814586.mp4 ( 78.87 MB , 1280x720 , Ну, погоди! (Well, Just Yo….mp4 )

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 No.409292

>>407461
lol

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