/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>356476
regular socialists are Urdu speaking Punjabi's or Muhajirs, that look down on my people
there Ideal state will have the linguistic and cultural genocide of my people

>>356582
what the fuck are you talking about

regular socialists are only socialists, they are nothing more or nothing less interested in building an international communist world based on the dictatorship of the proletariat and transition away from states and classes slowly.

>cultural genocide
you're one of those trad ""socialists"" then i assume

So I already posted this on /b/ but it fits better here

Honestly the whole dynamic between the Pakistani state and Pashtuns and other ethnic minorities is worth discussing
see Pakistani's like other South Asians are colorists, we idolize features like lighter skin, broad shoulders and height and the one's in the whole of South Asia are Pashtuns and smaller ethnic minorities, If you see a Pakistani online you'll see him posting pics of beautiful Pakistani's which are mostly Pashtuns, Gujjars, Kalash, Seraiki's, Baloch, Hindko and at the same time he will hold an incredibly racist view of these people
All the groups are hated in Pakistani society for various reasons, for not conforming, for not speaking Urdu, for being "unpatriotic" and for not following Islam right, however all these people are still fetishized in Pakistani society due to their features

Majority of the middle class and the one's you will most likely interact online are Muhajirs and Urdu speaking Punjabi's, they kinda despise the fact the people who look most like them are Hindus and SIkhs and so they play up the association with Pakistan's ethnic minorities while at the same hating them and wishing for their cultural genocide

>>356741
What is the origin of the light skin idolization

>>356747
I mean sociologically wise it's pretty easy to explain why light skin was prized in various societies, the peasant who was working in the Hot sun was going to be a shade or two darker then the nobles, the Nobleman was also likely going be a little taller then the peasant as he had access to proper and full nutrition, this existed even in Europe, why do you think there are so many depictions of 16th and 17th Nobel's powdering their skin snow white
however in Western Europe a change happened, during the Industrial revolution workers started flooding in the cities, they were working in factories all day and weren't getting enough sun, they started developing ghostly pale skin, while the upper class escaped to their manors in the country side, where they got plenty of sun and leisure time
so the pale skin that was prized a couple generations ago started associated with factory workers while a slight tan skin with large land owners who owned country estates
so it's class

>>198097
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate

how do we have higher home ownership rates than america?

i thought we have a culture of people living in the same houses so the rates would be lower

is the definition of house loosely applied here or is there some other explanation for this

One of the few good men that my country had, he tried his entire life to selfless and he did all that a man could do in this shit system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Sattar_Edhi

>>363964
very based, and one of the few rays of light on this retarded subcontinent.
But I've always wanted to know how he started - was he from a rich/business family? also,
> He has been criticised by right-wing Islamic clerics for helping non-Muslims; once asked why he transports Hindu and Christian dead bodies, his response was “Because my ambulance is more Muslim than you”
very based

>>364041
He was from a memon community, they are famous for being shroud businessmen in Pakistan, he did grow up poor and his own small time corner shop

>>364084
wat the fuck
>>364048
unbelievable - this is truly efficient philanthropy, not donating 10% of you income to a trust which your son heads which promises to bring modernity to the third world as a tax break

>>364091
Even then as great as Edhi foundation and the hundreds of thousands of people they helped, it didn't change the bigger picture
to me it showed that good men who work in this current system can only do so much

https://twitter.com/MensDayOutIndia
bruh indian men really have it hardhow is this page real lmfao

>>368099
Eh women want us liquidated, but what can you do?

>>368101
Keep your chin up king!

>>368105
It’s just that I got more important problems than girls wishing I didn’t exist.

>>368099
now THAT'S a hill to fucking die on
also the page doesn't seem like a sanghi page tho, just your circa-2009 liberal congressi

What are your thoughts on the relationship between the Soviet Union and India

Did they ever try to establish a comintern there?

Pakistan kneeled for BLM, why didn't India?

>>372086
What's Pakistan

>>374586
your father

>>377089
What's a father

God it feels good to be a Chadmar

>>379705
What's that

So is the indian army as predatory as the united states army?

preying on highschool dropouts, people from troubled home and paying for their education?


what does the indian army do, other than oppress kashmiris

>>379768
not much, there's never been a need for recruitment or military propaganda, India has a fucking huge population and people enlist mostly just cause
the Indian Army just guards the massive borders India has and other then Kashmir no major combat operation for part 20 years now

>>368099
God desi MRA's are the saddest group of human beings I have seen online
The Feminist's in our countries are neo-liberal western educated and members of the upper class, they offer no solutions just vague mantas and slogans, but feminism is desperately still needed, I have multiple cousins who have had decorates and wanted to careers were forced to becomes housewives' and married off to men that were pre-selected by their parents
but these MRA's are ever worse, they are a new breed of upper middle class reactionary in Pakistan

The Majority of reactionaries in my country were and still are bearded Islamic weirdos who have spent their entire lives in Madrases but these people are something else
>usually from the Mihajir and Urdu speaking Punjabi groups
>upper middle class
>would probably identify as "conservatives"
>LARP as heirs to the Mughal Empire
>make a lot of racist meme's against Hindus and non-Muslims
>oppose the rural Islamist's
>firm supporter of the military and Imran Khan Government

>>381410
happy to see things are not so different on the other side of the Radcliffe line. Our "based" "trad" MRAs are
>usually from the high-caste and Hindi speaking groups
>upper middle class
>identify as "conservatives"
>LARP as heirs to some empire (Rajput, Maratha, or Mauryan, again depends on caste of the poster)
>make a lot of racist memes against Muslims and non-Hindus (or "bad" lower castes who don't toe the line)
>firm supporter of the military and the Modi government

>>381585
>>381410
what's very Ironic regarding the whole Empire LARP is that they very LARP from kingdoms that had no actual link from ancient empires other then religion and sect
as I said from its overwhelmingly Urdu speaking Punjabi's and Muhajir who pull the "we are Mughals shit" many even claim that Urdu is a mix Turkic and Persian Language
and from what I've seen a lot of Maratha, or Mauryan Empire larders are mostly central Hindi

>>381410
Based

>>381410
>>oppose the rural Islamist's
why's that?

>>381949
see they LARP as Islamic warriors and unironically call themselves Ghazis and meme about killing Hindus and such but they usually have no religious convictions, most of these guys watch porn and American shows on netflix

>>381399
so other than the kashmir the military?

the budget?
how imperialistic is india

>>383024
A minority of retarded online nationalist's believe in Akhand Bharta(greater India) delusion but even right wing indians mock them, other then Kashmir India really isn't that militaristic at all
The last major military film in India was in the 2000's and it was glorified love story with the conflict as just a plot point, there's no Military culture or military presence here
There is a lot of pro-cop and police content though

>>381410
Why did you repost this on a certain internet gossip site? Not upset, just interested to see the cross posting

Every job that I want to try out has at least 1 person arrested, protested or killed by the government/idiot mobs for muh disrespkt!!1
What stage of capitalism is it when you can shit on live tv and nobody gives a fuck anymore? I want to skip to that point

>>388485
what site

>>383512
Wait there are indian right wingers who don't want that? What is their real reason for not wanting it

>The last major military film in India was in the 2000's
No way, They made a movie about the surgical strike in 2019 and it was a big hit

>There is a lot of pro-cop and police content though
This is very true. I don't think a single year goes by without them making at least one of these type films.

It's always the same story of a corrupt politician vs some brave cop who's on the side of le people.
As if they don't both exist only to serve the interests and properties of capital.

>>389384
oh Yeah I forget about, Surgical Strike but it was structed more like a generic blockbuster action movie, I can barely think of any Indian war movies

>>389384
>It's always the same story of a corrupt politician vs some brave cop who's on the side of le people.
tbf most of the films often portray the entre police force of being comically corrupt and dirty, with the exception of a single moral renegade cop who often takes the laws in their own hands
most Indian's are aware of the fact that cops are bad here, but those films are about Hope
Hope that one day a man with that authority can do something to change the institution

>>389711
>most Indian's are aware of the fact that cops are bad here, but those films are about Hope
>Hope that one day a man with that authority can do something to change the institution
That makes me tear up. It's the same reason I fantasize about being superman.

But a better hope story is this movie I watched once about a slum in dharavi and they have a local leader who beefs with some builders and politicians who want to gentrify their neighbourhood and con them out of homes

In the end they lose after they send pigs in at night and smoke the entire slum and the leader dies but the next day the politician comes in to start the ceremonies for construction but the entire community surrounds him and block all the police through sheer numbers of their own and they spray holi colours in the air to make everything hazy and then they beat the politician to death. Hype asf moment and nobody gets arrested because they can't pinpoint who killed him exactly, Nobody snitches on each other.

Even without a great man, The people stayed united and won against the evil rich man, They realized they outnumbered the rich and powerful and finally used strategic violence against them as they did.

>>389862
that's great and all but most people don't only have themselves to take off, they have families and loved ones, that depend on them or who can be exploited and intimidated

We're counting on you, Indian comrades.

>>391923
China considers Taiwan to be a part of China. This goes way back to a long standing rivalry. The communist party of China and the KMT fought for power in China, the CPC won and the KMT became an impotent exile government in Taiwan that for a very long time declared to be datruetrue government of a larger China which consisted of the Chinese mainland and Taiwan. The KMT has lost this battle and the government position in Taiwan since then, and officially Taiwan is considered to be something like an autonomous region in China. Unofficially Taiwan is still treated like a mostly sovereign country.

When Japan talks about defending Taiwan, that would be like Mexico saying it intends to defend Texas against the US government, in case Texas wanted to revamp the Confederacy. The comparison is bad but the US would understand such a statement like Mexico threatening to declare war against the US. And that is exactly how China sees the Japanese statements about defending Taiwan.

If you consider the History between Japan an China, where preWW2 imperial Japan was ruthlessly occupying big parts of China for the better part of a century, it's very unsurprising that Chinese officials might have let say "rude reactions" to potential Japanese "involvement".

The other part is that Japan was on the loosing side of WW2 and conditions for it's surrender was that Japan wasn't allowed to engage in warfare. China was part of the winning side and technically China could treat this as Japan violating the conditions of their surrender in WW2.

Regardless where you stand on the Taiwan question, Japanese officials are morons of the highest order for spraying gasoline on the fire, they are not making China rethink it's position on Taiwan, they are making China rethink it's military positions towards Japan. All they did is poison diplomatic relations.

Do indians really ?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/26/six-police-1-civilian-killed-in-clash-between-two-indian-states

>>368099
https://twitter.com/AFS_pk
Pakis strike back

>>389384
>What is their real reason for not wanting it
There isn't any geopolitical advantage in it, those places are full of people who hated the idea of India so much that they wanted to secede to their own Islamic nation. Anyone wanting this weird "united greater India" or whatever is probably profoundly mentally ill.