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 No.106554

Why are vegans obsessed with converting us to veganism? This is what Jehovah Witnesses do with their little pamphlets they leave everywhere. Everytime you post a vegan meme, its like an old Hispanic grandmother at the bus station trying to get me to go to her church.

Is veganism a cult?
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 No.106558

Why are communists obsessed with converting us to communism? This is what Jehovah Witnesses do with their little pamphlets they leave everywhere. Everytime you post a commie meme, its like an old Hispanic grandmother at the bus station trying to get me to go to her church.

Is communism a cult?
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 No.106561

Because according to vegans animal life and suffering matters as much as human life and suffering (some vegans even considers animals i higher regards than humans). Therefore in the vegan mind, someone eating calf is like someone who eats babies.
So they feel the need to make people stop eating meat with peruasion like you'd like to make people stop simping for cops
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 No.106564

everything is a cult
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 No.106565

>>106558
No, its a political ideology. Your Vladimir Lentil.
Joself Salad.
And Asparagus Hiter rolled into one gluten free organic bagel.
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 No.106577

>>106565
You can just say Adolf Hitler.
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 No.106595

>>106554
Once we can synthesize meat cheaper than the real thing carnism will become a bourgeois luxury
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 No.106630

>>106595
This is true. Some forms are already financially out of reach for many people in my country, and they eat disgusting processed, nutrient dead meat concoctions..
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 No.106634

>>106558
Look, I'm OK with people having their own beliefs, but they just should keep them to themselves and not push it on me, all right?
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 No.106641

>>106595
Meat eating has been a luxury for much of humanity as it is. Even now the cheapest things in the store are things like bulk rice and beans.
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 No.106647

>>106641
So we would rather exit the period of luxury, giving up yet another vital resource to the rich, because…people couldn't eat meat 700 years ago. Regression thinking at it's finest.
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 No.106649

>>106554
When you're robbed of anything that can effect any change on the world, you're relegated to recycling, "buying organic", and veganism.

There's also a lot of propaganda that goes behind veganism. Big lobbies and a lot of money is made through this shit. They really believe eating imported vegetables from the other side of the planet with solve climate change.
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 No.106654

>>106649
>They really believe eating imported vegetables from the other side of the planet with solve climate change.
Oh you sweet summer child. American produce is shipped out of the country where it fetches a higher price. Lower quality Chilean and Mexican produce is then imported to America, where it fetches a higher price than in the countries where they were grown. This is globalism.

Porky doesn't believe in climate change anymore than he believes in paying taxes.
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 No.106655

>>106647
>people couldn't eat meat 700 years ago
Nigro, did you even read the part of the sentence where I said "Even now"? You're also discounting vegan luxury foods.

>>106649
It's completely the opposite, the lobbies are trying to preserve the old power of meat and milk companies. Here's some info on one of the biggest anti-vegan websites: https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/PETA_Kills_Animals
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 No.106658

>>106655
>vegan luxury foods.
Sauce?
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 No.106659

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>>106647
>vital resource
lmao retard

>>106649
>They really believe eating imported vegetables from the other side of the planet with solve climate change.
Also retard
Yes, importing some quirky grains from southern hemisphere once a year, while avoiding the massive contribution to global warming from farming animals for food, is certainly an improvement over the alternative that you're proposing.

As usual, opposition to veganism is entirely ignorance+hedonism.
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 No.106660

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>>106659
>NO! You can't just eat heckin cute critters! They're morally superior to us in every way.


And so the Carrot Cultist has arrived…
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 No.106662

>>106660
Whom's't are you quoting?
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 No.106663

>>106658
Vegan food is more expensive in general. Vegans are mostly "enlightened" urban middle-classes, you pay premium for being proud of your consumer choices. Oftentimes even the ads themselves indirectly state this.
I'm not trying to say all vegans are like that, but that's how they're marketed to.
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 No.106666

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Self righteousness mixed with inherent obnoxiousness I guess. It doesn't matter though, I'm eating my fucking pizza and burgers if I want to
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 No.106667

>>106663
Way to expose yourself as out of touch. Again, the cheapest foods in the store are vegan, and are what people with less money than you buy in bulk.
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 No.106677

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>>106666
Fucking cursed quads, you are a gluttonous pig though lol. Anyways here's some good looking vegans for OP to hatewank to
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 No.106684

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>Overweight Americans with numerous self-imposed health issues think they know better than the smartest minds in history
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 No.106688

Also yes eating meat is wrong because it causes suffering to animals just like rape is wrong because it causes suffering to animals. Sure we can put humans on a higher level in our understandably biased position but other animals experience the same pain and suffering we do and animal husbandry is essentially a never ending hell for them that they can never escape. I feel less bad for hunting animals in the wild just like I would feel somewhat less bad about murdering and butchering humans out of the blue in the wild rather than keeping families locked up and abused in my basement and constantly molested and pumping out babbies to turn into food and other consumables. You see a difference?
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 No.106689

>>106667
Certainly not where I'm from. I have vegan friends and they complain about this. Mind you I'm not talking so much about the usual stuff everyone buys anyway (although some non-animal food is more expensive regardless), but about the food that is specifically targeted at vegans like milk alternatives.
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 No.106690

>>106663
>Vegan food is more expensive in general.
Maybe in america, where cheapest """food""" is all pre-processed goy fodder.
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 No.106692

>>106690
Eastern yurope.
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 No.106697

>>106689
>food that is specifically targeted at vegans
That's like 5% of what a typical vegan buys. Typical, not one who is trying to conserve money.

>>106692
Fresh vegetables aren't expensive.
Even with the "exotic good markup", shit like tofu is comparable in price to cheese.
Veganism isn't expensive if you can cook.
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 No.106730

>>106554
>Why are vegans obsessed with converting us to veganism?
Because vegans in general want to reduce animal suffering, and converting others to veganism would be more effective at reducing animal suffering than just going vegan yourself.
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 No.106751

When will retards learn what "cult" actually means?
It's almost as retarded as when butthurt pedophiles call atheism a religion.
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 No.106782

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>>106666
Checked
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 No.106783

>>106666
Is there no vegan pizza?
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 No.106808

Bro I'm a vegetarian and without drinking milk everyday I start to crumble

I need to take supplements to recover
Shit sucks ass

Still I don't like non veg
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 No.106815

>>106808
Milk-drinking is actually uncommon around the world, and most people can't process it well, so it's not that you need milk.
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 No.106817

>>106815
Bro

I literally have no other hefty way to natually get Vitamin D and B-12 into my body
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 No.106826

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>>106817
You can easily look this up. There are even natural B12 sources like mushrooms and seaweed, and otherwise many foods are fortified with it. Though, try to avoid cyanocobalamin if possible because it's unoptimal.
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 No.106831

>>106817
>NaTuRaLlY
Why not just write "irrationally"?
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 No.106871

>>106817
Why not?
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 No.107000

>>106659
>is certainly an improvement over the alternative that you're proposing.
I wasn't proposing anything. This is why I think veganism is just a moral religion. It's entirely prescriptive.
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 No.107003

veganism isn't inherently shitty, though veganism right now is very shitty as a movement. it's completely idealist, but maybe there is a materialist case to be made for veganism and nobody's bothered trying because they see meat eating as absolutely ethically wrong and that is all they need as justification.

where is the marx of veganism, the one who comes in telling everyone where they got it wrong and turns a wishy washy moralistic tendency into a real political science?
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 No.107004


> C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppD….jpg
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 No.107028

>>107004
Yeah that shit is really deanonymizing, OP. Make a thread asking for help on /tech/ if you need to, but at the very least fix it.
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 No.107036

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>>106554
Has a vegan ever knocked on your door with a pamplet? I'm a vegan, and yeah there are a lot of annoying vegans, but I have never understood the hostility from omnivores like yourself.
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 No.107037

>>106751
What's cultish about it is the way they have to tourettes about veganism in every conversation they have. Then they get pissed if you tell them you're not interested.
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 No.107042

>>107036
No but they have that same holier than thou aura about them. Like they've reached some spiritual nirvana by eating avocados, and us mortals will never be as based as them.
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 No.107045

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>>107042
Evidence? Have you ever considered that these types are the minority and that most vegans just keep it to themselves unless it's relevant to the conversation?
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 No.107047

>>107045
A girl that I was like this. She was really beautiful, so maybe she just thought everything she said was interesting, idk but she acted veganism was her religion. She would lecture everyone on what they were eating. I remember one time she talked about the danger of mayonnaise for 10 minutes, and I had to listen because she was insanely hot. Anyway, her perfect boobs and ass started shrinking after like 5 months on the veg, and she started eating fish and chicken because the veg god wasn't delivering the goods anymore. Now she eats lamb too, but says she's mostly vegetarian. So basically it was a phase.
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 No.107049

>>107047
*a girl that I knew was like this
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 No.107052

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>>107047
So your source is one girl you knew for a while? Are you really basing your generalization that all (or at least I assume that is what you meant as you didn't add a qualifier like "some") vegans are smug and preachy based off of one annoying girl you met?
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 No.107059

>>107052
Yes? Are you trying to make me doubt my own two eyes?
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 No.107084

>>107052
No, ofc not. Look at all the snooty vegan memes on social media, some which are posted here regularly.
On a personal level, I've known several vegans. The girl I mentioned wasn't even the preachiest of them all. This emaciated gay guy named Kip was the biggest vegan cultist I've ever met, and wears t shirts with vegan messages on them like every day. Lol the dude actually walks around with bags of fruit like Christians do with the bible.
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 No.107085

>>107059
See? Vegan sniped my reply. Hail Carrots comrades!
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 No.107091

>>107085
We are gangstalking you, just letting you know
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 No.107093

>>107091
quick, what am I doing right now?
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 No.107095

>>107093
Here's something better: try to find one of our cameras. Hint: it's in one of the trees nearby.
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 No.107097

>>107095
Oh shit. Is it the tree outside my bedroom window?
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 No.107100

>>107097
Can't tell, sorry 🤐
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 No.107101

>>107100
No worries. I chopped it down. It's currently on fire, and I'm using the fire to cook a pork shoulder.
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 No.107102

>>107101
Minecraft isn't even that good any more, go find something better to do.
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 No.107120

>>106826
Wonderful
2 of those things are milk products and sun helps you synthesize it not gives it to you
Can't get soy milk and almond milk near me and it would be expensive to buy from Amazon

>>106831
Are you moronic or something?
why does that word trigger you
i have no interest in ruining my kidneys by popping pills

>>106871
Why not what
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 No.107122

Genuine question: Is yoga a cult?
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 No.107152

>>107122
Yoga pants should be a cult
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 No.109753

Can anyone give a definitive answer about farming and global warming?

uyghas really want me to believe that not eating a hamburger is like planting a full acre of trees and donating my first born to Greta Thornberry.
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 No.109758

>>109753
it takes far less land, labour and fuel to sustain a plant based diet than one that includes factory farmed meat. the only exception I know of is hunting, but hunting is labour intensive. veganism in in-natura planned socialism means lots of labour is freed up to deal with the climate situation, and plenty of extra emissions are also avoided. it may well be that case that meat production must be heavily curtailed and consumption rationed
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 No.109772

>>109753
Farming animals, especially warm-blooded ones is immensely inefficient.
Bovines are especially bad due to their large size and methane-producing bacteria in their digestive tracts.

Pointing this out usually results in copes, so I'll list the copes and the answers to them.

>b-but cows eat grass!

Not when raised numbers this huge. Most cows meant to be milked/killed are fed tons of corn, soy and alfalfa specifically grown as fodder.
>b-but cows/pigs/etc. eat parts of plants humans can't!
Even with this included, most of soy is farmed as fodder. More corn is fed to cows alone than to humans. Alfalfa is a dedicated fodder crop.
>b-but muh marginal land
Most pastures displace native plants, which aren't useful as fodder, but do a much better job at maintaining the varied ecosystem in local area, resulting in a long term carbon sink.
>b-but theoretically, a non-vegan diet might still be more eco friendly
Yes, but gains would be minuscule over a pure vegan diet

Then there's shit like water usage.
Consider that most productive agricultural areas are often semi-deserts drawing on essentially non-renewable water sources.

>>107120
>i have no interest in ruining my kidneys by popping pills
You're retarded
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 No.109790

>>109758 (me)
>>109772
>Yes, but gains would be minuscule over a pure vegan diet
it's not even that, it's more that meat might be produced mostly as a side-effect of other jobs. in particular, wildlife control. if we want to sequester as much CO2 as possible then the moose population must be controlled, and similarly for other herbivores
a lot of this will fall out as the solution to the set of equations necessary for planning the transition to a sustainable, steady-state economy. meatfags seethe
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 No.110390

>>109790
>meatfags
"Meatards" is a great word.
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 No.111650

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Characteristics of a cult:
>The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment
<Completely absent in veganism
>The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members
<Present no more than in most branches of christianity
>The group is preoccupied with making money
<Completely absent in veganism, money-making only goes to animal rights
>Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished
<Questioning is encouraged, as many vegans consider alternatives for normies, like saving Earth and smart mammals before saving insects
>Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s)
<Completely absent in veganism
>The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth)
<Completely absent in veganism, the only guidelines are just guidelines and are entirely practical, like how to meet micronutrient needs in a world "calculated" for carnism
>The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity)
<Everyone can "join veganism", mission of veganism is just to reduce suffering, making it less "messianic" than any major religion
>The group has a polarized us- versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society
<Present in very minor form, but not as strongly as in say, catholics or any other traditional christianity
>The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations)
<Entirely absent
>The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities)
<Veganism supports freeing slaves, which might be considered vandalism by slave owners, but not by sane people
>The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them
<There's no leadership, guilt is comparable to what /fit/ards feel when they skip a day or weight-losers feel when they eat too much
>Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group
<Very rare, below that of converts to mainstream religions or people who lose weight while having fat social circles
>Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group
<Completely absent, veganism can be "done" alone
>Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members
<Completely absent

If veganism is a cult, then:
>every major religion is a cult
>losing weight or gaining muscle is a cult
>being fat is a cult
>communism is a cult, even if you don't want a violent revolution
>leftypol is a cult
As this would be silly, it's very safe and rational to claim that veganism is by no means a cult.
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 No.111911

>real american hours
>everyone hides in shame
Too fat to even consider veganism
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 No.117979

>>110390
Try "transhumanistꜱ"
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 No.117980

>>117979
*transhumanists
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 No.118416

>>106554
In a word, yes. In three words, yes it is. In four words, yes it is, yes. In five words…
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 No.118423

>>117979
>>117980
lmao at self-owning /pol/tard
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 No.118443

>>111650
>If veganism is a cult, then:
>>every major religion is a cult
>>losing weight or gaining muscle is a cult
>>being fat is a cult
>>communism is a cult, even if you don't want a violent revolution
>>leftypol is a cult
>As this would be silly, it's very safe and rational to claim that veganism is by no means a cult.
Are you actually saying none of those can be cults or that they just aren't ones by default?
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 No.118459

>>118443
It's conditional, with different answers depending on what you mean by "cult".

For example, if you require a cult to have characteristics like strong leadership, veganism is certainly not a cult.
If you call any organization with some common morality a cult, then socialism is necessarily a cult.
And so on.

By common definitions of a cult, veganism is very clearly not a cult, but some loon might want to stretch the definition.
In this case, the loon would have to accept that speaking English is a cult, at least if he wants to be consistent in his logic.

This also avoids low IQ "discussions" like
>NOOOOO WOMAN MEANS CHROMOSOMES! THIS IS WHAT IT OBJECTIVELY MEANS! LOOK AT THE DICTIONARY I PREFER! ALL OTHERS ARE WRONG!
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 No.118476

>>118443
unfortunately cult often times just means group I don't like in colloquial speech.

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